Today the U.S. House of Representatives passed the TAKE IT DOWN Act, giving the powerful a dangerous new route to manipulate platforms into removing lawful speech that they simply don’t like. President Trump himself has said that he would use the law to censor his critics. The bill passed the Senate in February, and it now heads to the president’s desk.

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    OK so this is meant for revenge porn / stolen photos… but it’s written so broadly that it will affect basically any online speech. Great.

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      it passed. it fucking passed. i don’t think people realize what they’re about to use this for (or at least they don’t fully realize the implications).

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          They all did along with all but two Republicans. Funny how they have no problem working together on stuff like this, but when it comes to anything that helps the American people suddenly there’s a ton of manufactured controversy as if we were watching a scripted pro wrestling match.

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        Trump’s fascist agenda was always their agenda as well. They just weren’t quite as openly racist about it. Democrats have oppressed minorities as much as republicans have, and it wasn’t Trump that was sending riot police to crush peaceful sit-in student protests against genocide. That was a democrat, and was only the latest in a long line of truly horrible things the democrats have done in the name of fascism.

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    Call it what it is: a censorship law. Apparently the climate of fear that makes people self-censor wasn’t enough.

    Watch for a LOT of ‘extreme left’ opinions get taken down and their authors imprisoned.

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      It won’t stop with journalists and authors. They’ll be looking in Facebook posts, Reddit comments, Twitter threads, Instagram, etc. And random citizens are going to start disappearing.
      They’ll want people to know it can happen to anyone, not just the most visible or high profile critics.

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        Politicians are still too afraid of optics, they don’t want to be on record as voting against taking down revenge porn. Too many of these bills are written with a good-sounding premise but the details are where they get you.

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          Yet they are happy to hand the criminal who is actively shooting people another loaded weapon because “optics”.

          They are the kind of people that say you should stay with a partner that rapes and abuses you because it might make family gatherings weird if you complain.
          Fuck those people.

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          Since it’s not specifically partisan there’s a good chance scotus will actually follow the law on this one.

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        The NSA mass surveillance program that Snowden blew the whistle on was found unconstitutional during Obama II. THAT SAME AFTERNOON, the Republican Congress and Senate passed the (I shit you not, this is what this MF is named) USA FREEDOM ACT that basically re-instantiated the program and Obama signed it straightaway. Turns out, they were able to get shit done quick and in a hurry when the shit was fascism.

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    The democrats pushed this through for the same reason they’ve pushed other bills to censor the internet, using piracy or CSAM as excuses. They aren’t really trying to protect anyone, they want and need control over the population as much as the republicans do, so that they can maintain the cash flow from corporations that own them. So many people still look at the democrats as an opposition party to the fascists, but that isn’t true at all. They work together because they’re two sides of the same party. The only thing they’re truly concerned with protecting is their own money and power.

    Both the democrats and republicans are profoundly evil.

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      Republicans pass legislation through the two houses of Congress they entirely control, a Republican president signs it.

      You: “The Democrats pushed this through.”

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          Ok so 2 people out of 535 in Republican-controlled Congress voted against it, how is it accurate to say “Democrats pushed it through”?

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            I see how you got confused, let’s try rephrasing it to “passed with unanimous democratic support”.

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            The house bill was sponsored by a Pennsylvania Democrat and a Florida Republican.

            Amy Klobuchar and Ted Cruz introduced the Senate version.

            It’s bipartisan and criticism is levelled at the opposition for doing bipartisanship: the chronic problematic condition the Democrats put themselves into while in the minority.

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            In what world is 2 votes against 400 making any noise? That is 0.5%, democrats surely make up far more than that.

            So a majority of democrats voted for this.

            They pushed it through.

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              Every single democrat who voted, voted yes. The other democrats just refused to vote, instead of voting against it.

              The funny thing is, I seem to recall every single democrat on Lemmy saying right after the election what not voting against Trump was no different than voting for him. Wonder when that changed.

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              My point is that it’s very odd to focus on the Democrats specifically when Republicans brought the bills up for a vote, and Republicans also basically unanimously voted for it…more Republicans voted for it than Democrats, and a Republican president is signing the bill.

              Republicans pushed it through, Democrats voted for it also. You are allowed to criticize either party for voting for it, but you are being inaccurate if you are saying the Democrats are disproportionately responsible for passage, as the term “pushed it through” means.

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            “Republican controlled” doesn’t mean they’re all Republican. It means they have a majority. 535 votes in favor essentially means unanimous support.

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        Your comment sounds pretty fucking stupid considering every single democrats who voted, voted yes. Now get that boot out of your mouth, you’re embarrassing yourself.

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    This reminds me of the DNC super donor Ed Buck who would lure in gay black men and kill them by injecting meth into them while raping them.

    He managed to do it for years and wasn’t until one of the victims survived to be able talk about it that he was sentenced as with every previous body it was said it was a private issue and a sad loss of a friend.
    Photos managed to get shared of his racist, rape, death den helping sway the public.

    Ed Buck would have loved this bill and its ability to actively scrub his image further.
    If it feels like monsters would like something I don’t want it.

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      Not a rumor, only 2 house members voted against (both republican).

      mfw we can pass a bipartisan spy law no problem but a bipartisan daylight savings law is still too hard.

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        To be fair, DST is a more complicated issue. Everyone wants to end it, but there’s disagreement on how to do it.

        One side wants to not be missing an hour of sleep half the year and wants to go to standard time only.

        The other side is psychopaths. We had a Spring Forward. I’m owed a Fall Back. If they try to take that away from me, I’ll take up arms.

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      She did. She ‘objected to some of the wording’ but jumped in line like a good little puppet.

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        Her and Bernie won’t acknowledge palestinian defenders in their rallies. Puppets to the bone like all the others, just another form of controlled opposition.

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      She’s part of the problem.

      We like to believe she isn’t, but she’s a proud consumer just like the rest of them.

      She will never fight back against the culture of consumption until it becomes cool to do so.

      I can eat for literal days, having several pounds of meat, for $15. Meanwhile she feels justified in defending spending $15 on avocado toast and her useful idiots support her because they’re part of the problem, too.

      All democrats become conservatives when their consumerism is threatened.

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        She absolutely was a progressive, until that corporate lobby money started hitting her bank account.

        Now her bullshit is just performative, like all the rest.

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          I guess. I have seen her giggle about the need of cheap slave labor.

          She’s just another capitalist who want her own comfort more than she wants what’s best for others.

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    “Flood the zone” benefits both parties when it comes to power grab shit like this. This barely made headlines until it was already passed and it’s too late.

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    American decline is happening at a much faster pace than I anticipated.

    If you don’t own a gun, now is the time.

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    Good news, now we can report all those christians online that won’t shut the fuck up!!

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      Yeah but the DMCA was vaguely reasonable. This is meant to be weaponized.

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        the DMCA was vaguely reasonable

        No it wasn’t. It too was MEANT to be weaponized from day one. The difference is that almost all of the people in control of both parties and all mainstream media were in favor, so it got a false veneer of reasonability in coverage.

        The DMCA is just as bad as SOPA and PIPA, which was always the intent from the powerful industry groups lobbying for all three bills and the politicians they own.

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      I think you mean the communications decency act? Most of that has been found to be unconstitutional as will likely be the fate of this bill…

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      I’m American, and I vote heavily splintered. We are constantly doing shit that is profoundly evil, so we need to be weakened enough that we don’t have the ability to project power outside our own borders, for the safety of the Middle East and other small countries the world over.