Teen could never enjoy life because their mom is the kind of person who sues porn sites rather than having a conversation about masturbation and sexual health with her child.
FTFY
She put him in the fucking public eye for what all teenagers, no matter what, do. Like, this is how you get an incel, or worse. Right? Shame on this woman.
Can he no longer enjoy life cause he logged into chaturbate.
Or did he never enjoy life, because his moms a miserable kind of cunt that announces to the world her sweet baby boy looked at THE PORNOGRAPHY and is stirring up a massive, baseless lawsuit over it, thus traumatizing the fuck out of him… which I imagine isnt the first time shes done so.
edit Whats the running bet on if the kids even allowed to have a bedroom door?
Well the kid definitely can’t enjoy life now that his mom caught him and put him on blast in front of the entire nation.
World actually.
The kid is going to be either 1) hateful or 2) replicate of his mom. He will no longer be normal.
If only there was some kind of system where minors are given rules to follow, and looked after by an authority figure that could steer them away from things that aren’t appropriate for them. For simplicity, these authority figures could even be adults that they are closely related to and live with.
Alas.
Can you imagine the roasting this poor kid gets at school because of his insane mom?
My thoughts as well.
Just let your kid masturbate in peace. WTF.
And/or you know, put a web filter / monitoring software for free on your devices that the kids have access to.
Android: Google Family Link, and many others if they aren’t trying to use Google products.
Apple has products as well. People just need to pay attention to their kids
The products suck. Google and apple don’t really have a monetary motivation to make them good. My kid easily gets around everything. And he is only 11. The best so far was a bark phone. They had to customize the operating system because google didn’t provide ways to lock things down. He still found a work around to play music on the talk and text only phone. Only had it a week. There just isn’t profit in it. So teach your kids about the realities of the web or they will find out themselves.
Thanks for sharing! A lot of it I saw was about people not locking down phones so kids had access to uninstall and reinstall apps to bypass blocks. Which if the app store / play store is locked to a parents Apple ID, unless the kid knows their password they shouldn’t be able to reinstall the apps. But all the same I agree there will in the end be a way to get around if they try hard enough. That said, what’s to stop someone just installing a 3rd party app store and using that, not sure. Unless the parental controls block .apk files and such.
If you don’t mind me asking, why were you trying to block music though? I would imagine if you block everything, they have more reason to try to find work arounds. If they have access to music and videos that are just filtered for porn/lewd or what not content, they have less reason to try to find work arounds and are more likely to comply, especially if the punishments for being caught finding a work around is high.
Oh, and for the android tablet, he can use routines. One called focus can be configured to close the parental controll program anytime it tries to launch. I was actually kinda proud about how he found that workaround. He didn’t even learn it from the web, just figured it out on his own. But anyway, they only fix is to block access to settings. But then he can’t manage Bluetooth devices like headphones, or join wireless networks like at the doctors office. And the app people say there is nothing they can do because android doesn’t give them the ability to control things as fine grained as that.
In the case of the phone, it is something he will take to school with him next year. Many for the location tracking. We didn’t have the option to bus for elementary school. So this will be his first time bussing. I can totally see him just going to a friends house from the bus stop. With the phone he could text us, and we would also be able to see where he is if he forgets.
But anyway, it is supposed to be totally locked down so it is boring and not a temptation at school. But if he can play music, he probably will do so in class and cause problems. His other devices that stay at home are not as locked down.
I highly recommend Qustudio. It works on phone and PC, and allows you to customise exactly what is monitored or blocked so you can keep an eye on things in an age appropriate way.
We started monitoring after we found out our 12 year old daughter was catfishing a 19 year old boy. He had no idea and after we explained that she could literally ruin his life, and made her tell him her age he noped out of there. (Wisely.)
At first we had it set to monitor everything, report all searches, all app downloads, block porn, etc.
Yes she was able to get around certain features, like when she was young we had the phone locked past midnight… But it logs when it’s in use, so we then had a talk the next day and took away the phone or PC if needed.
As she got older we removed the block on all websites, and stopped monitoring any messages. We kept the software on to let us know when she was using her devices because she would often be up until 3am on her phone on a school night and we would then have a conversation about it.
We removed it when she was 17 or 18.
I currently pay for qustodio. He can pown that thing in so many ways it isn’t funny. I have had multiple conversation with thier support, and usually the answer is that they can’t do anything about that because android doesn’t allow them to. For the pc it is windows of course, and they allow even less. Given the age of your kid now, there may not have been as many youtube videos back then explaining how to get around these parental controls. But there are now.
I have a technical background, so I can understand the things he is doing. Like I know what a vpn is, and how it can be used. So I can tell him that if he installs one there will be punishments. But most parents wouldn’t even know what it is, and if they got an alert about it, would probably believe whatever story thier kid told them about it.
And don’t get me started on the horrible parental controls on the switch. And roku effectively has none (they only work on the roku channel).
If a kid has any ambition, they can get around the vast majority of controls. And if the parent is not technical, they have no chance of really stopping a kid who wants to access something.Oh yeah, they can get around it, but not without me knowing about it. If I find out, they lose the devices, simple as that.
You are right that parents who aren’t technical will have a hard time, but it’s not insurmountable. No devices in the bedrooms, ever. No downloading apps without permission ever. Google the app and give a yes or no.
When it came to it, wifi off at night and she got the basic Nokia phone. It’s a constant battle, sure but one we must win.
Also reminded her that no matter what, if she’s on our network, I will know what she’s up to. Instilling a healthy sense of fear is good. Router logs do not lie.
If it were just websites, the router can do a lot. Though with cell data, they aren’t on our router. And there is also the school wifi. And don’t forget the school chromebook… and heck, they can facetime a friend who can essentially stream them stuff. I disagree that it isn’t insurmountable for non-technical parents. There is just too much that they would need to know.
This was literally the first thing I thought when I read the headline.
Nelson (from Simpsons): “Ha ha!”
Seriously, who wants to bet this kid ends up disowning her, or ending himself as a result. The bullying would be fucking insane for that. National news over porn.
I imagine something like this.
I was led to believe that if your mom (although they always call it stepmom in the title) finds you doing that, they will come in, have a very short chat, music will start in the background and they will then, um… assist you. I am shocked to hear that in real life that is not the case. The internet has been lying to us.
Unless you have 2 broken arms
This is a test case. There are some deep Christofascist pockets behind her.
Specifically, the pockets come from the NCOSE (National Center on Sexual Exploitation), who’s purpose is to quote, “defend human dignity”.
I kinda feel like defending human dignity is not having your son involved in a lawsuit against porn sites.
“Q.R., using his mother’s old laptop, had unfettered access to the internet and began searching for hardcore pornography,” says the court. His mom claims this led to “pain, suffering, disability, disfigurement, and mental anguish; psychological injury; past and future love of enjoyment and pleasure of living.”
It’s not the internet making your son feel those things, it’s you.
Why is the mom not responsible for giving her kid internet access.
Well she is, but also the law states she can get compensation if an adult site doesn’t age restrict minors.
Disfigurement? Kid’s doing something wrong.
That’s truly some advanced-level porn.
Internet told him to break both his arms.
Mom is mad he doesn’t have energy left for her.
Ultra Porn is only for the old and infirm.
Mom never supported any kind of sexual education and definitely refuses any kind of healthy and mature conversation with the poor kid.
Don’t knock it till you try it
His mom claims this led to “…; past and future love of enjoyment and pleasure of living.”
So the mom is suing Chaturbate, et al., because she thinks they’re going to cause her son to enjoy life in the future? Is that the mental gymnastics going on here?
Damn, he’s Disabled and Disfigured now?
…What was he doing?
He broke both his arms. He’ll need his mom for the jerking now.
It’s not even real. It’s a fabricated story to push an agenda of a special interest group.
Edit: to clarify, the news story is real, the mom’s story isn’t. It’s just a fiction to push the agenda.
“Mom” isn’t doing this unless she’s uber rich. Someone is bankrolling her to try to set precedent.
Ding Ding Ding! You Win!
Mom is joined in her lawsuit by the National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE).
https://endsexualexploitation.org/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation
The National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE), previously known as Morality in Media and Operation Yorkville, is an American conservative anti-pornography organization.[2][3] The group has also campaigned against sex trafficking, same-sex marriage, sex shops and sex toys, decriminalization of sex work, comprehensive sex education, and various works of literature or visual arts the organization has deemed obscene, profane or indecent. Its current president is Marcel Van der Watt. The organization describes its goal as “exposing the links between all forms of sexual exploitation”.[4]
Pretty sure those NCOSE assholes are the ones who said school shootings and other mass murders are because of moral decline due to gay people.
Call them the Christian Taliban, and nothing else. They not worthy of any acronym or marketing they choose to hide behind. They’re fascist scum.
Genital obsessed religious extremists
The group has also campaigned against sex trafficking, same-sex marriage, sex shops and sex toys
So they just did a control + f for “sex” and then are against any of the results. Are they seriously suggesting that there are people out there who are all for sex trafficking, and would vote in favour of it? They sound like lovely people.
I’ll bet they don’t really like the Sex Pistols, either.
it’s okay to like some of their songs but honestly they suck and nobody should like the
It’s a framing tactic to paint the opposition as ‘for this awful thing’ when in reality the issue is the further erosion of privacy under the guise of ‘safety.’
Operation Yorkville
I have found my new masturbation euphemism.
I mean who doesn’t like opping their york in the shower after a long day
Beautifully stated!
I’m pretty sure NCOSE is a cover for a pedo ring. They probably frequented Epstein’s parties.
They are a right-wing religious advocacy group. So it’s practically a guarantee.
Its current president is Marcel Van der Watt.
That makes so much sense.
Anti-masturbation shaming and lawfare and the idea that you can blame all your problems on it is a mainstay of the religious right playbook.
They then hold the forever frustrated subject in a mental shame prison they can never escape but above which they can self righteously judge everyone else and feel they know the real reason why everything is messed up. A similar self sealing logic as the conspirationnists.
I don’t understand how these kids get caught. They gotta be really slow or something.
I was caught 0 times as a teenager. My mom never found my porn.
My brother was caught a few times. My cousin was caught in the damn car on a family vacation with OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CAR just yanking his noodle under a blanket.
I was so cautious as a kid. I guess because I was caught and thoroughly shamed when I was about 4 years old. Maybe that’s why I never got caught when I was old enough for it to matter. That shame gave me a lifelong lesson.
I had a motion detecting toy dinosaur at the bottom of the stairs. When someone approached the stairs it would go, “raaaaaawr, raaaaaawr” and I’d be sitting at the foot of the bed reading a book by the time someone got upstairs.
If they suspected anything, didn’t matter. I was reading.
When I got high speed internet (as it was called in those days) I threw out the tapes and magazines. I had a separate hard drive I’d plug into my computer juuuuuust in case, and since I was always messing with and tearing into my computer, my mom never found anything. That drive had Linux, my mom was scared of Linux.
Now that I think about it, holy shit they fucked me up haha.
When they caught me as a little guy my mom said, “oh shamy, shamy.” And my dad said, “you keep messing with that thing and it’ll fall off and you’ll turn into a girl.” They spent the whole day giving me that, “oh you shameful creature” look.
Haha, man. Wow.
Yeah, maybe my people just messed me up.
Yeah, maybe my people just messed me up.
I’m pretty sure we’re now in a situation where most of our society’s contention is driven by childhood-induced shame over sexuality in some form or another.
And there’s not shit we can do about it because every time someone tries to make a campaign to encourage better sex-education, or even scarier, sex positivity among children, those people or groups get attacked for being pedos and predators.
This is going to be a social dividing line that gets sharper as time goes. There will be people who have a shred of intellectual capacity and haven’t been hollowed out be capitalism, who raise their kids to be free from shame and shackles of toxic social norms and let them just live and discover on their own what sexuality means to them.
And the orcs, who want literal dark-ages levels of shame, hate and fear and of course power-imbalances as deeply rooted foundations to anything and everything related to sex, and they will only want children associated with sex when it involves controlling them or worse.
As a parent, I didn’t want to mess my kids up and make them feel shame about natural things. I don’t know what the right way is, but I have tried to avoid that.
I have enough kids that I know some don’t do it early, some do.
My approach has been, “hey, that’s a private thing and no one here wants to be a part of it. Go to your room and shut your door.”
I have no idea if that’s right, and because of my own issues it doesn’t feel right, but that’s been my approach. I try to think about it logically and reasonably despite having to fight the feelings. My instinct was to say, “HEY! CUT IT OUT, THAT’S NASTY!!” All that did for me was give me an association with “nasty” and those feelings and all I had was my mind, and oh boy I wish I could erase the memory of the things I thought about as a kid.
My daughter is 16, and she’s overly open with me to a level that makes me uncomfortable because she isn’t ashamed of herself.
I also know that she will be healthy when she’s active because she feels comfortable talking to me.
She broke up with a girlfriend for pressuring her, and she told her boyfriend that she understands why he wants to do that and why he thinks about it, but she isn’t ready and if he can’t handle that he can go find a girlfriend who is on his level about it.
With my parents, you did not discuss such things. It was totally forbidden. As a result I had unprotected sex with multiple partners by the time I was 18 and I started when I was 13, started fooling around at about 9. I had some real weirdo adults in my life and I never talked to my parents about it because the thought of them knowing something so shameful about me was too heavy.
I had my first child at 16 years old. I do not believe that would have happened if I had access to education and I could have talked to my parents without feeling shame.
It feels like I’m going against my very nature when my daughter talks to me about things, but I grit my teeth and bare it, and she’s in a much safer and healthier place than I was at her age. She laughs and me because I blush and can barely look at her when she brings it up.
Maybe I’m doing one thing right in a sea of things I’m definitely getting wrong haha.
I believe we should feel shame about some things and that’s why we have to contend with it in the first place. We shouldn’t be ashamed of natural things though.
We’re here because of a long line of creatures and people banging. I don’t know why we freak out about it so bad.
I don’t understand how these kids get caught. They gotta be really slow or something.
I was caught 0 times as a teenager. My mom never found my porn.
Modern operating systems are different than Windows 98. You think that you’re sneeky and that nobody will find your porn folder and then your mom gets a “Popular files in your user group” mailing from “OneDrive Engagement” or a “Your browsing year wrap-up” by Microsoft Edge or a retargetting ad on the whole network because you looked at the Riley Reid fleshlight. Modern surveillance capitalism is really hard to escape.
Imagine if the Year of the Linux desktop arrives not for any other reason but because the teens want to look at booba/peen online with privacy
Damn, man. That really sucks.
That’s really depressing.
I always figured we’d go down this road, and in a bout of psychosis when I was younger I even lost my head over it and we really are there now.
A 30 year old friend of mine didn’t know about incognito mode. A certain subreddit popped up, on his projector screen, as a recommendation when we were searching for a sports stream to watch. I don’t think anyone else noticed or would really know what the sub was, but I later casually mentioned this really cool browser feature to use in case you need to search something weird.
I learned one shouldn’t assume that everyone is familiar with all the digital tricks to hide what they’d prefer others not see.
Did you place the toy downstairs before wanking or was it always there?
It was always there. ;)
I had an Irish Catholic nun, with the headdress and nun robes on and everything, tell my class we’d go blind and grow hair on our hands. She was making scarry eyes and jazz hands while she said it. It was a sex ed course and her #1 message to all of us jr high boys was wearing deodorant and scrub your ass in the shower. In retrospect, I think she said that in such a cartoonish manner because she knew it was ridiculous, and really she just didn’t want to gag from the stench after phys ed.
That same nun told me her favorite band was "those good Irish boys with the rap music, I just wish they’d pick a more respectful name than ‘beasty boys’ "
We were all sneaking looks at each other’s hands for at least a month after that though.
I was caught 0 times as a teenager. My mom never found my porn.
oh she knew. we all know.
Knowing is one thing, being caught cock in hand is another. :p
Note that under the Kansas bill, it appears that depictions of homosexuality qualify as also needing to be locked behind an age gate. Like, not “homosexual sex”, but homosexuality.
Don’t look, kids! According to Kansas lawmakers, this is pornography.
Images and text depicting gay affection could be swept up by age-verification bill
A same-sex couple exchanges rings at a marriage ceremony. You might think it’s a sweet moment. But should we be protecting children from seeing it? (Getty Images)
Take a good look at the photo just above these words. You should see two men exchanging rings at a same-sex marriage ceremony.
You’re also seeing, according to the Kansas Legislature, the kind of pornographic content that should be walled off from those under age 18 with age-verification software. That was the consequence — intended or not — of passing Senate Bill 394. All 40 state senators voted for the legislation, including 11 Democrats. In the House, nine Democrats joined Republicans to pass the bill, 92-31.
Max Kautsch, a Lawrence media lawyer, outlined some of the problems.
“The online age-verification bill expressly incorporates the definition of ‘harmful to minors’ that already exists in Kansas statutes, a phrase defined to mean ‘any description, exhibition, presentation or representation, in whatever form, of … acts of … homosexuality,’ ” he told me. “The term ‘homosexuality’ is undefined in the law, but it could include a wide swath of conduct between two persons of the same sex, including kissing, hand-holding, and other activities that would be considered ‘public displays of affection.’ ”
A couple of gentlemen exchanging rings, as shown above, would certainly qualify.
I encourage everyone to study the actual bill. From my perspective, it not only invokes a double standard against the brave Kansas LGBGTQ+ community but actively seeks to chill free expression. The proposed law applies to “any commercial entity” that shares content online, which means it could sweep up individuals trying to make money from a travel blog or small businesses that take wedding photos of same-sex couples. (As a nonprofit, Kansas Reflector appears exempt, which comes as a relief given my columns.)
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW
Get this smut off my Lemmy page.
I think that this is okay, because this lemmy instance isn’t a commercial operation.
I guess that places like PinkNews and similar commercial media outlets might be open to lawsuits, though.
Yeah, the teen isn’t enjoying life having to deal with his judgmental helicopter mother. But that’s not the porn sites fault.
Teenage boys like to look at naked women a lot, and will go to great lengths to obtain said material, legal or not, due to the 1 2 punch of raging hormones and not fully developed frontal lobes. News at 11 for the mother of the year over in Kansas that hasn’t been paying attention to what teenage boys are usually like for all of recorded history and beyond.
I can’t imagine what she would do if he happened to be into trans porn or God forbid gay porn. The horror. She would be the laughing stock of the garden club among her equally uptight peers. Would someone please think of all of the adult embarrassments in these times of teenagers finding themselves! /s
She is probably an american christian. You think she even cares? She only wants her son to go to church and save himself for marriage.
So parental responsibility now consists of suing for perceived damages of… ???
jacking off?
fuck’s sake. you don’t think they’ll pass a law against THAT do you?
give it time
Imagine gooning so hard that your mom makes you famous.
She just didn’t want him to jerk off to her on chaturbate. She performs there regularly as “Giantmagacnt”
I want to believe this is satire but fuck I will not be fact checking.
Narrator: They did in fact go and fact check.
Dude gunna have to be homeschooled until graduation.
Better not break his arms.
Did homie ever make money off that? Of just terminated his reddit account?
Ew
I mean the kid’s penis must have shriveled up to nothing by now, making the entire case moot.
“Your honor, I move to dismiss on the grounds that the plaintiff’s penis is reduced to a blackened nub.”
“Sustained!”
Yeah, I can imagine having a mother like that would make it so that you can’t enjoy life, damn.
Jeebus, I need backup plans for Friday nights.
Page 8 & 9 of the court filing (not the article):
Through this time, Q.R. was able to access chaturbate.com on thirty different instances: […] seven instances on August 30, 2024 […]
Bruh, make sure to hydrate.
Page 13, absolutely fascinating to me that “prays for judgement” is stated and whether that is at all common:
Plaintiff prays for judgment against Defendants in an amount in excess of $75,000.00 for: a. actual damages resulting from Q.R.’s access to material that is harmful to minors, including but not limited to past medical expenses, future medical expenses, past and future lost services and disability, past and future pain, suffering, and disability […]
Page 15, looking for more details on alleged “disfigurement”:
As a direct and proximate result of Defendants’ negligence, Plaintiff has suffered and will continue in the future to suffer the following damages: a. Pain, suffering, disability, disfigurement, and mental anguish […]
It goes on to talk about pornography causing a shift in perspective on sex and possibly leading to addiction. Not finding anything specific on the alleged “disfigurement”.
I’m left to assume poor Q.R. will have to deal the rest of his life with the friction burns caused by jerkin’ it 7+ times on August 30, 2024.
His mom also demanded a jury trial, so Q.R. can rest easy knowing 12 strangers will hear about his friction burns and give it the serious attention due.
This was so hilariously stated - and your comment is quite thought-provoking.
I can’t imagine how this poor teenager will think of his mother over time.
I can’t imagine how this poor teenager will think of his mother over time.
Not well, this much is certain.
Bet that kid is counting the days until he’s legally an adult and can get away from her.
As a direct and proximate result of Defendants’ negligence, Plaintiff has suffered and will continue in the future to suffer the following damages: a. Pain, suffering, disability, disfigurement, and mental anguish […]
More likely a direct result of his mom being a fucking psycho.
Page 13, absolutely fascinating to me that “prays for judgement” is stated
It’s not a “prayer” in the religious sense.
“Prayer” in a court filing is what the plaintiff asks the court to do to resolve the case.
Ty! TIL. I’ve probably seen it many times before, but it only jumped out at me this time given the Olathe, KS setting and strong fundie Christian vibes.
Surely you cannot sue someone for future injuries where the future injuries are entirely unevidenced. There would have to be some kind of medical assessment that said that this kid is going to suffer ongoing injuries and I can’t imagine they have such an assessment.
Maybe the counter argument should be that this kid’s mom should attempt to get him on disability payments, and only if he’s able to get on that, will they accept liability. There is zero chance of that happening.
Agreed. As a lawyer friend once told me, “you can sue someone for damn near anything. It doesn’t mean you’ll win”.
I imagine the “disability and disfigurement” will get sussed out at some point and either backed up w some sort of evidence, or taked out from the rest of the complaint.
Good write up, thanks!
