• skisnow@lemmy.ca
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    5 hours ago

    I don’t know if I’ve got a big enough sample size, but the only guys I know who wear black nail polish are creepy Marilyn Manson types who mainly get laid with girls they met in their therapist’s waiting room

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      I don’t know where I heard it but I think the sound of a Harley V-twin engine sounds a lot like a throaty man voice shouting

      BROTHER BROTHER BROTHER BROTHER LOOK HOW GAY I’M NOT BROTHER BROTHER BROTHER BROTHER

      On second thought I think I heard it from a canadian redneck madman on youtube. ZipTies&BiasPlies

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    I mean, it maybe wasn’t gay, but was definitely a reference to something hellish, depraved, opposed to common morality, weak, like that.

    Because back then it clearly meant protest against authority, against hierarchy, against stereotypic masculinity, against war, against evil covered by normalcy.

    In some sense it’s an intentional show of vulnerability, that look.

    And I’d take that over Kipelov in Russia every day, that moron who doesn’t fucking understand what rock music is.

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      The problem is most average looking men, when bedecked in goth shit, look like Bluey got run over by a Spencer’s truck.

      The dude in everyone’s imagination wearing black makeup and jewelry looks like a strung-out rockstar with don’t-give-a-fuck vibes who lives for adventure and wild nights. The vast majority of ACTUAL men have the body-shape of a rectangle and have to spend most of every day waiting in lines, attending Zoom calls, explaining to customers why their wifi doesn’t work (Reset the router Ethel, no that’s not a router, you’re holding an egg steamer.)

      We gotta abandon the idea that people have “looks” at all times. Lets repopularize costume parties so guys get a chance to try to dress-up without it being some kind of shocking change to their entire persona. I had a stiff, straight-edge boss who attended a Halloween party and went goth. Completely unrecognizable, he was a legend.

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        I’m trying to get back to rectangle, I passed on to deflated beachball…

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    I go with black socks, black sandals, black cargo pants and black turtleneck all year around.

    Well, I’ll change for combat boots when the snow comes.

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    Of course girl with a goth profile picture and spiders in her name thinks goth style is hot.
    In the meanwhile my bald head and nike sweatpants attract eastern european girls like a lamp with moths. You catch what you fish for.

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    I - a bloke - sometimes paint my nails. If they’re still painted when I go to work you can guarantee I’ll get a few comments from guys questioning whether they “should be worried” around me*. Meanwhile, the few women who work there think it’s wonderful and have offered to do them properly for me. _ *they needn’t be worried. My standards aren’t that low

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      I have thought long and hard about what would go into a mainstream, masculine nail-painting style that would actually catch on and be popular and add something to most men’s style, and not just young, waifish catboys with narrow hips, but would also benefit Carl down in accounting. (Rusty metal? Lumberjack plaid? little dicks painted on each?) And after that mental exercise I realized two things.

      1 - Nothing we do as a species makes any sense and our attachment to social norms is never, ever going away.

      2 - Gendered expression that isn’t just hanging a sign around your neck with an arrow pointing to your genitals is utter nonsense also. Why do so many people associate painted vestigial claws with femininity? If you paint your dog’s nails in a color you or others will start viewing your dog through gendered lenses. We are a silly creature.

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        Why give so many fucks about style? Who cares what anyone thinks right? Shouldn’t we all just dress comfortably and quit worrying about appearances? Focus on what matters? Meaning of course, our personalities and our humanity. People always wanna act like how we appear somehow matters. I hate vanity, which is why I dress plainly, rock a plain haircut, and don’t “express” myself through visuals even though I would “get more pussy” if I catered to society’s expectations. Instead I let my principles and morals shine through my actions, which actually have an impact on the world.

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          While nothing you said is incorrect from your own personal views and desires, avoiding fashion or stylistic expression is as much your own paradigm as someone who does choose to wear certain things or express themselves in certain ways. IE: choosing no style is also a style. You simply cannot escape self-expression unless you are utterly alone on an island, and it could be argued that even then self-expression will be valuable for preserving your sense of self.

          Self expression and creating identity is just a human thing that we’re never going to get away from, nor should we unless we’re ready to like… become absorbed by some kind of hive-mind. We are social creatures, we literally can die without social identity.

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      I’d be outright ostracised, casted out, spat on if I showed up with painted nails/eye shadow to work here in England

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        It depends so much on regional norms.

        Out on the West Coast of the US, painted nails on men is very common, while usually an indicator of an “alt” lifestyle or a particular attachment to fashion, it’s not entirely uncommon to see a dude in a suit with black nails and might only get a few passing comments like “Wow, you pull that off!” or “Haha, how does your wife feel about you using her cosmetics?” at worst.

        But if you move East by one state boundary you literally might get cussed out or glanced at like a predator or worse, depending on how deep you go into small town mormon communities and the like.

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        I’m also in England, though in the South, where we’re all soft fairies.

        And yeah, the response can be annoying, but the way I see it, I’m a gobby, fat, mostly-straight cis guy who’s married to a woman, so the abuse I might receive is nothing compared to some others. So if I can go any way at all towards helping to normalise something as benign as painted nails on a straight man, then I will.

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      When guys ask if they should be worried around you, do they expect women to be worried around them?

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    I still wear dark clothing outside of work, but I’m too old to be digging out the makeup these days. People really don’t respect the time it takes, especially if you can’t wear it in a professional environment.

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      99% of the time if I notice a male coworker wearing nail-polish it’s because they let their daughter paint their nails, which I think honestly should be a special kind of badge of honor that all men should strive for.

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      Opposites often attract wildly.

      A lot of really “standard” guys who dress in polos and jeans will look at a girl in a black leather schoolgirl outfit and see mystery, sexual freedom, experimentation, and all the dangers that mother warned you about. It represents an escape from social chains and it’s not just a sexual kink, but it can really feel nice to imagine having someone who challenges your preconceived notions or gets you “out of your shell” because a lot of men have no idea how to do that and fantasize about meeting someone who drags them by the arm through life to get them to enjoy things they’d be afraid to try on their own.

      Speaking as a man who’s partner has filled this role for many, many years.

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      They just love goths.

      Female goths: double attractive

      Male goths: questions sexuality