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      No I’m pretty sure that’s the guy that loves cocain and wants to fuck his mother

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      if they had had an apartment to rent out it would’ve been totally OK and not fraud and a very normal thing to expect a landlord to do though 😅

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      It’s not fraud if you tell the applicant what the rental criteria are and what happens to the money if they are turned down.

      In ancient times, I was a small time landlord. On a couple of occasions I asked for an application fee. I followed these rules, which I explained to the applicant:

      1. The application fee was refunded if I turned down the applicant, provided the background check did not disclose a lie on the application.
      2. The application fee was applied to the security deposit if I granted the rental.
      3. The application fee was not refunded if the background check found a lie on the application, or if I granted the rental and the applicant changed their mind and declined to rent.

      It costs money to do background checks. I wasn’t going to be out of pocket if an applicant was dishonest with me.

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          Of course, it’s often a scam. But application fees can be legit. The key is how they are administered.

          The fee should not be non refundable, just not refunded under certain specific circumstances.

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    “I have passive income” is literally just “I run online scams”.

    This is no different from people in places like india doing phone call scams.

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      Don’t forget the downpayment and the security deposit and first and last months rent. Oh and if you break the lease you have to pay 4 months rent or the remainder of the rental period, whichever is higher

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        Don’t forget that your landlord forces you to pay through a 3rd party company that charges a “convenience” fee of ~3% so your $600 rent is actually $620.

        Ask me how I know.

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        Add $75 for each pet if allowed! My buddy was apartment hunting recently and was given a rental agreement that said he would have a deductible on repairs and would have to cover anything over $250. The landlord was just looking to scam and sue someone for repairs he had to do to keep up to code. America’s cooked indeed.

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        Here it’s just a months rent for security deposit and you pay as normal in a rolling monthly contract. The deposit needs to be held in an independent thingie too so they can’t keep it unlawfully.

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          I was gonna say that in my experience the “security deposit” should just be considered money spent. Generally, if my landlords could find any reason to, they’d keep the whole thing. If they couldn’t, they’d make one up.

          I had A landlord who was pretty chill, most apartments in the area had monthly or 2-weekly cleaning checks, but we only had one in the several years I lived there. We went above and beyond to show our appreciation for the relative lenience

          We came back after the cleaning check, and the kitchen floor was covered in a sticky film. Then we got a cleaning fee charge. Turns out, the landlord hired someone to do the cleaning check, and offered to pay the same person to clean the apartment if we failed. So they inspected a spotless apartment, told the landlord we failed, mopped the floor with undiluted Fabulouso, and called it a day

          Our landlord refunded the cleaning fee, but if they hadn’t I doubt there’s anything we could have done.

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        First and last month can make sense sometimes, so laws can go “the tenant did pay the last month so you can’t suddenly evict them, they still get to live until the month ends because they did paid for it”

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    Lmaooo Dudes, US people have no business making fun of communist if they do things like this. What do you mean you pay for an application for rent a space to living for???

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            My cat cost my insurance company whatever they paid my doctor to write a note to tell my landlord I wouldn’t be paying a pet deposit equal to a months rent (non-refundable) and pet rent.

            She seemed annoyed by the whole thing but unsurprised. Apparently part of her job is to write the landlords fuck you notes.

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          Nope, 100% real. My roommate has a pet and the landlord forced them to pay a $50/month pet fee.

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          You also have to prove you make 2x rent, sometimes 3x rent in order to actually qualify for an apartment (alot of us create fake paystubs for this) :)

          We also will have a deposit that is usually 2-3x rent that we are supposed to get back when we move out. However every time this happens the landlords conveniently find damage to the property that didn’t exist the day you moved out so you don’t ever get that money back (or if you do, you only get 25-50% of it). :)

          At the place I just moved out of, there was a roach infestation that the landlords refused to hire a pro to take care of that got entirely out of hand. They are holding my deposit for this. :)

          You also aren’t allowed to have anyone stay over longer than 3 days if they aren’t on the lease without prior approval from the landlord. :)

          Edit: Sometimes people have to get renters insurance too. :)

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            3x the rent as a revenue and 3 month deposit is also standard in Switzerland. However, the deposit is put in a special account and the bank releases it when you move out. It is not that easy for the landlord to get a part of it. About the rent not exceeding one third of the revenue, it’s of course not always easy to do, but if you exceeded it, you would risk having other financial problems which wouldn’t be good for you neither.

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          Not a joke. I suspect the creation of pet rent contributed to the dilution of the concept of service animals (people insisting that Rex the psychotic chihuahua is an emotional support animal).

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          These guys are saying $50-100 but I have seen $200 per month on a $1800 per month apartment. It’s no joke.

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          Americans are fine with it. Extremely comfortable.

          If they weren’t, they would do something about it.

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          More apartments in the US have it than not nowadays. It’s anywhere from 50-100 a month.

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    Not to be a capitalist pig but even under capitalism in the USA that is just fraud.

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      Most people have no ability or funds for recourse and justice. It’s just going to be a SOL moment.

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        My friend has a slumlord next to him doing this, he’s charging $250 per application and rejecting everyone. So my friend is renting his spare room to his last tenant and thinking about suing. Fucks up the neighborhood.

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      They’re free to choose to pay or not to pay. You don’t have rental application fees so you don’t have a choice. Your freedom is curtailed!

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    I did 97 meth deals ($45 each).

    That’s $4365 in passive income.

    I don’t even have any meth and just gave them sugar crystals.

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    Why would anyone want Mao to wake up? The fuck kind of genocide denialism is this?

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      Inventing genocides to discredit Mao must be a new one. Liberals are too stupid to level any valid criticism against him huh?

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          The fact that people with different views to you shocks you suggests you should get out of your ideological bubble more often

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          The dumbass lib comment is what can’t be real. Too stupid to level valid criticisms like the great leap or subjective excesses in revolutionary violence and instead just making up a genocide to criticise someone? Pure ignorance.

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            Have you ever lived under a communist regime? I have, it sucked, it doesn’t mean I automatically become a capitalist right wing supporter, just cause I reject communism. Has communism ever worked without devolving into oligarchy? Ever? Im more of an anarchist, I believe communism doesn’t work because it relies on the hope that the people running the government will give the little people and equal share as them, and humans just aren’t that good. We suck. The communism I experienced came with a lot of oppression and poverty, maybe you mean socialism? Cause that’s different

            Just because I think communism doesn’t work, doesn’t mean that I immediately agree with capitalism. I miss the days when a leftists could argue and debate with another leftists without being accused of being right wing or called names, just because our views may differ slightly. Be better

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              Nothing you just said has anything to do with the argument.

              The fact is that you argued like a liberal using liberal talking points. There’s plenty of things you can criticise any former socialist leader for. But using fake facts and rhetoric from the CIA, the black book of communism, various right wingers, etc. only enables their historic revisionism.

              There’s a stark rhetoric difference between saying the great leap was mishandled terribly and not sound from an ideological base and calling it an intentional genocide if that’s what you were refering to with the genocide crap.

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                White American kids telling my indigenous ass how the world should work is exactly what’s been going on for decades, but it’s wild the level Of racism and colonial “papa knows best” attitude I’ve seen from the American left this past year

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                  Weaponizing your identity might work in reddit or Twitter but I don’t think it’s gonna get you traction here

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    Virtue signaling is a very interesting primate trait. From lying about where you were last night to wearing clothing in the first place, manipulating your status is uniquely human. If dolphins or octopuses made a civilization, this would be unlikely to emerge.

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      Ever seen Orcas wearing salmon hats?

      Hierarchical systems are perfectly normal in social systems. Not in the rigid way your manosphere nutters use it, but it’s still a thing!

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          Well, there’s a philosophical point that’s worthy of exploring.

          Is human activity, including manipulation, a result of nature or in conflict with it?

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            Biology is so neat! I love animals. You should check out the velvet worm and social structures. Just fascinating that complex (and evidence suggests even more complex) social behavior arises from a ridiculously different neutral structure and evolutionary lineage. As for philosophy, may I point you to egalitarianism as the ultimate balance with the fact that mitochondria symbiosis may have started with predation. The host cell failed to digest it (maybe), and mitochondria, like your gut biome, was like, “yeah, this is chill, too.”

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      Yeah stealing from random people to “survive” is not okay.

      This isn’t stealing food from a store this is taking money from everyday people’s trying to rent an apartment

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      Firstly, she does it because she’s a piece of shit.

      Secondly, if it was about survival, like you suggest, then why is she calling it a passive income in such a gloating casual fashion?
      Passive income, at least to me, means secondary and unnecessary.

      Thirdly, she’s a piece of shit.

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      in what world do you live in where $4k is not that much. i make a solid 6 figures and $4.3k is nearly my monthly income after taxes

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          The fact that saying $4k net per month on the side is “not good” and “does it to survive” is showing what a failed and depraved country the US is.

          There is 60 countries in the world, where the annual GDP per capita is lower than that, and only 20 countries in the world, where the GDP per capita is higher, if we multiply the $4k by 12.

          If we assume this to be taxed, then only the tax havens are above that and that is certainly not going to reach most of the people living in these tax havens.

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            For a long time I had a job that paid exactly $4k a month net. It was heaven as the median salary where I live is 6 times lower. Then I started to think where else I could move. Turns out that this is not enough for most of the countries in Europe

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              Yeah, that is not true. In most countries in Europe making 4k net puts you in the top 2-10% of income.