• 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Why is the UK such a hell hole all the sudden? I’ve never had such a terrible opinion of the place until now with encryption and authoritarian fuckwitism against the last bastion of real democracy on the internet.

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      Tony Blair thought that the Labour Party would win if it were more like the US Democratic Party. That began an electorally successful period of unprincipled triangulation and petty authoritarianism. Eventually that momentum fizzled out due to the gloomy paranoid leadership of Gordon Brown, corruption of people like Peter Mandelson, and the loathsome hypocrisy of Blair’s lies in support of GW Bush’s second Gulf War.

      Then the Conservatives got in for 14 years and fucked everything up even worse. Now the Blairite authoritarian-centrist faction is again running Labour, and so far has shown none of the political cunning that kept Blair on top. And the media fawns over the smarmy mini-Trump Nigel Farage despite his party having no policies.

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      Because they have to protect the children!! Oh why won’t anyone think of the children?!

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        Yep. Politicians creating tech policy on the fly without consulting people who actually know what they are talking about.

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      Don’t forget transphobia. They seem to have suddenly decided that’s a good idea in the last 3 years.

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      sometimes the french are right. the brits are indeed cunts.

      so seriously, this i brilliantly evil. this is the way that will allow some police state level of oversight for both social media, chats, and even vpn data will be tied to your personal file. this is so dark in every possible way. any site can be labelled porn or harmful at this point. even wikipedia. how dare the young browse the open truth of the internet? and this is already the second phase, mind police.

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      I don’t know if it’s the root reason, but one gets scoffed at harshly by the average Tom, Dick, and Harry when suggesting that a Monarchy is an archaic and, frankly, insulting form of governance in spite of protestations that the role of the sovereign is purely ceremonial.

      Simply put, they (mostly) seem to prefer political masochism, and are ruled by sadists. Sadly, in 2025, aren’t we all?

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      I wouldn’t underestimate the effect Brexit had on this. No there is no check for the national Government anymore.

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      knowingly leaking everyones medical information, fucking surveillance camerason every corner… my opinion didn’t meaningfully change by these, they are being a hell hole for a longer time

      • 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
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        Uhh no… Idiots are fascists. Some idiots may call themselves liberal but that doesn’t make it so. Liberals by definition cannot be fascist. The idiots are those that let fascists parade as anything but.

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          One thing is the Political self-proclaimed Liberals mainly in the Anglo-Saxon world, a very different thing is the Political Ideology of Liberalism.

          “Liberals are Fascists” definitely applies to the mainstream politicians in at least the UK, US and Canada who say they are “Liberals” and have “Liberal policies”.

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    There is no amount of blocking the Internet that will safeguard the children effectively. The real solution is this:

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    Shithole country doing shithole things. The UK is acting like a red state, and their standard of living is dropping accordingly.

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      Until the go government starts blocking entry nodes, then there will be a whole new country relying on the snowflake protocol.

      Also, this doesn’t affect only people under 18, any sane adult should never send a copy of their id to anything but the government, bank, insurance or employer.

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        a whole new country relying on the snowflake protocol.

        That would put them in the company of China, Russia, and Iran. Getting unrestricted Internet to people in those countries is why I am among those who run a snowflake node on a dedicated VPS (the link also has a simple browser addon – it’s easy to support the network, everyone should)

        Yes, these moves suck for UK youth. But, anti-censorship tools do exist, and volunteers like me want people who could benefit from them, to know about & use them.

        any sane adult should never send a copy of their id to anything but the government, bank, insurance or employer.

        100% agree, take my upvote

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            Yeah, the newer thing to counter that is WebTunnel which came out last year. There’s considerably more setup than just starting a snowflake proxy process, and I am ashamed to say I haven’t set one up yet

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          Just out of curiosity how does one connect to the snowflake in the event that normal Tor does not work? (in minecraft)

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            In general real-time games are not great for Tor, because it introduces lots of network latency – which makes you safer

            For most applications, the easiest way to Torify is via using SOCKS from the Tor Browser Bundle, which would let you simply pick Snowflake when Tor Browser starts up. I asked Perplexity for directions on running Minecraft over Tor, here ya go

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        If they block entry nodes, just build an entry node. They can’t block stuff inside your own network.

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          Ofc they can, but they don’t need to, they just seize the server and jail the operator.

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    I wonder how they figure that’s going to work out.

    I couldn’t imagine being this pants-shittingly stupid about how the internet works.

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    Like Idiocracy has been a manual for the US, V for Vendetta is a manual for the UK.

    For fuck sake people, these are movies of worlds we DON’T want to live in.

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      Quick! Someone make a movie where the population suffers from affordable housing, free and universal healthcare, fair taxation, and a healthy planet!

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        You mean Star Trek? But where are the suffering people? It’s no fun when there is no suffering. Why would fascists want a world like that. I don’t understand why there are not more people willing to support the 1%ers. We might all be suffering, but their lives matter too you know! The world we live in right now, like in Don’t Look Up, is much more appealing. I mean, fuck poor people, fuck sick people, fuck hungry people. It’s their life choice. They just should have been born more fortunate. It’s their choice to have no life, no future, no opportunity. Might as well lock them up in prison (concentration camps) and use them for forced labor.

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          How about I get us started? To get the groove going;

          AHHH! Look at my Bank Account! I have money left after paying rent! OHHH THE HUMANITY! 😨

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            Drugs are cheaper than groceries, also delivered within 15 minutes while groceries take 1 to 2 days. Guess what I’ll be consuming tonight instead of dinner!

            1 grocery bag with food for 2 day: 75 euros.

            Or:

            5 grams of ketamine: 25 euros.

            5 xtc pills: 10 euros.

            3 grams amphetamine: 15 euros.

            I just saved 25 euros expenses, with enough for 5 days! Yay!

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                I have nyl wishes getting addicted to that shit. I’m more of an upper guy. Gotta stay positive! The world is already full of downies, like diaper Donny the taco in chief.

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                I actually paid 1,30 per gram but only when I bought a larger quantity. But with my home dealer it’s 15 per gram, 5 for friends. Tested 86% pure needles. Perks of living in The Netherlands, cheap top quality dope with fast home delivery. Can be tested in every city. Yet there are only few homeless people and no dope crisis. The hard junky drugs like crack, crystal meth, opioids like oxycontin, fentanyl and heroin aren’t popular here. Mostly regular party dope and weird Chinese designer drugs for younger people like 3MMA and 4FMP.

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          I think we are living in the Star Trek universe, but we’re just getting to the Bell Riots shown in DS9. No word on if we get much past it.

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          You mean Star Trek? But where are the suffering people?

          On the planets in the Cardassian/Federation neutral zone…

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      V for Vendetta is a manual for the UK.

      Add some 1984 to the mix.

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        Well both books were written to describe what british authoritarianism would look like.

        Tap for spoiler

        How long before we have a leak of the PM masturbating to state violence? Ugh V for Vandetta was so sexual in such an intentionally uncomfortable way

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            I didn’t watch the movie, but I can’t imagine an American movie getting away with what the comic did. Yeah, one of the major themes of the comic is the fucked up sexuality displayed by the fascists and the leader gets off on the concentration camps.

            Really good comic, but it’s definitely a lot. Moore did a really good job of depicting the fascists as pathetic but dangerous. Though fair warning, if Moore could think of a slur a brit might possibly use it’s in that comic.

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      Yeah, I noticed Google had evaded the ban.

      Would have thought they’d be all over the opportunity to gobble up even more data.

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    Don’t tell them you can buy a vps and run your own vpn in another country.

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        Shh, dont tell him lobotomies became mandatory on birth since Gen Z, and there are only few who still know how this magical phone they are using every day works, let alone know what an IP address is

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        In the UK we already have a law where isps block porn by default (blacklisting) the adult who took out the plan can contact the isp and ask them to opt out of these blocks. That’s been a thing for about 10 years. You can own a Pay-as-you-go sim as a minor but you have to send government id to prove you are over 18 to get the adult content filtering turned off.

        That’s one of the things that made it clear to me that the new law is an authoritarian data mining operation and blatant power grab. Like… We already have these tools in place. If you don’t want your kid accessing porn, don’t opt out of the filters provided by your isp.

        You could argue that putting the onus on the platform is more effective at “protecting kids” than having the isps maintain blacklists but there will always be small sites that don’t comply and enterprising kids who find a way around any block. Just like the law requires you to be 18 to buy alcohol or tobacco here but there are always dodgy shops who sell tobacco to underage kids. There are older siblings and relatives willing to buy cigarettes and alcohol for underage teens.

        This was never about protecting the children. That was the Trojan horse used to justify these laws to the technically uninformed.

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    To the people of the UK:

    What the hell is this authoritarian, pearl clutching shit? You’re fucking shit up for everyone. Can you get your people to please fuck off?

    Thanks, from some guy on the Internet.

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      Next step would be requiring UK ISPs to block traffic to the VPNs. They’ve already made it so you can’t go to some sites based on DNS lookups, so there’s precedent. Making it by IP address from a continuously-updated list would make it exceedingly difficult for regular users to access a public VPN, and while making one yourself from a VPS is straightforward, it can get expensive very quickly if you want to watch videos or download lots of stuff through it.

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    Don’t forget to donate to Tor Project and/or a relay operator if you use it, even $1 covers like several TB of traffic.

    We did the year of Linux. Let’s make this the year of Tor.

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      Real talk though, Tor for porn would be an awful experience and would slow down the entire Tor network. Tor is slow to begin with, and downloading large files (like videos) only slows things down even more for everyone. It should be a last resort, not the first thing people flock to. It’s the same reason people avoid torrenting over Tor; It’s slow and inefficient, so your downloads take fucking forever.

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        You use Tor to pop out in any other more enlightened country where you use bitcoin or some other crypto to purchase access to a good vpn and download the installer.

        Then download TBs of porn through your shiny new vpn subscription rather than bogging down the onion network

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        Tor project has many retorts but imo, the easiest way to improve it is just use it, even without donating. If literally everyone used it at all costs, websites would be forced to support traffic from it and blacklisting relays would kill the whole internet, e.g. $$$$. Without these issues, it would probably be much easier to host a relay, or even embed relay hosting in the browser by default. ISPs would be forced to open incoming ports, and firewalls would include it. Then it wouldn’t be slow or limited.

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          If literally everyone used it at all costs, websites would be forced to support traffic from it and blacklisting relays would kill the whole internet

          A VPS is one of the best tools on the internet. Make your own relay, with or without blackjack and/or hookers.

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        It was slow when I first tried it, decades ago, but I actually can’t tell any difference in speed these days. I use it for everything now.

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    Let’s extend our unpopular law to more places! Soon, you’ll have to verify your age to see boobs in real life. Which will be pretty unfortunate for teens trying to get busy in the backseats of cars.

    Microsoft Banned Commercial

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    UK has a massive budget problem and they still keep increasing expenditure on surveillance. That social value is negative at this point as its taking money away from critical services. Well done to the Government continuing the worsen debt, health, and wellbeing of the population. A terrorist will kill 5-10 people, failure to protect the health & well being of population (who needs a roof over their head) it just pales in comparison.

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      Economy and climate change is getting worse and they need to protect their rich, so more control of us low lives are needed. They laying the groundwork.

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      Their mass surveillance program doesn’t even work. Like not enough people are watching those video feeds of all the cameras in London to prevent crime or even solve crime. Not to mention UK also has a cop problem. People who are in most need of their protection do not trust the police.