• Wolf@lemmy.today
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    21 hours ago

    I don’t follow sports and I don’t care for most country or pop music, but other people are free to like what they like.

    I know she made a stand against record company greed, which I appreciate.

    She supposedly gave out like $50million worth of bonuses to the crew on her latest tour.

    She tried to keep her ticket prices lower than she could have charged.

    What Kayne did to her was incredibly rude and she handled that situation with class.

    Her dating Travis and attending his football games has somehow pissed off a lot of people for some reason and their response is usually something misogynistic.

    The right wing media seems to hate her.

    I heard she came out in favor of LGBT rights.

    Given that she started off as a country singer and seems to be moving further left, I can only imagine she’s influencing at least some of her fans to be more compassionate.

    The only legitimate criticism I can think of is that she’s worth about $2billion. She’s been fairly good about being charitable from what I understand, and got most of that bread through her recent tour, so I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt that she uses her money to do some good things.

    Out of all the ways that someone could earn billions “Pop Star” is probably one of the least exploitative ways to go about it, it’s not like she made it by underpaying workers like most capitalists.

    I’m honestly a little annoyed by knowing so much about an artist who’s art I don’t even care for, but it’s even more annoying that when I do hear about her, people are usually criticizing irrelevant things.

    Can anyone tell me a good reason why a Leftist should jump on the ‘Hate Taylor Swift’ bandwagon along with Fox News and Donald Trump? Just seems like a weird person to go after when there are so many more people actively making the world a worse place.

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      8 hours ago

      Mainly that she is rich and has a private jet. I agree with you that she is one of the better billionaires. Not that it is easy to look good next to the other 1% when they are either raping kids or protecting the rapist. .

      Also check out her song mixed with NiN.

      https://youtu.be/DhvXST1Rc3g

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      10 hours ago

      Money is a zeros sum game. There’s no such thing as a “good billionaire”.

      When more money is made compared to the labour that is put in, it usually leads to some kind of oppression/injustice. On some level you can ignore this injustice, but here we are talking about potentially 2 billions.

      Just some reasons to not like her as a leftist

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        10 hours ago

        There’s no such thing as a “good billionaire”.

        I never claimed she was a ‘good billionaire’. I’m saying it’s possible that she will choose to do some good things with her money. I’m not saying she will, just that I am willing to allow her to prove me wrong before I decide against her.

        When more money is made compared to the labour that is put in, it usually leads to some kind of oppression/injustice.

        I agree, it ‘usually’ does. However in this case I’m kind of having a hard time figuring out where this oppression/injustice is happening. She’s an ‘artist’ and people who enjoy her work buy/listen to her music. It’s not food, shelter, healthcare, or any of the other things required to live, it’s music and people would likely survive just fine if they never heard another song about how terribly Taylor’s ex boyfriend had treated her.

        And (again- this is just through the grapevine), but I hear that she gives large bonuses to her staff- payments that are above and beyond the agreed upon amount she ‘owes’ them. I suppose it’s possible even likely that she doesn’t give them a fair share of the profits, but I have no proof of that either way- and I’m not even sure how you would go about determining what a proper share would be in this case, but it sounds like at the very least she does more than most employers. Maybe not the perfect scenario but ill take flawed over terrible any chance I can get.

        On some level you can ignore this injustice, but here we are talking about potentially 2 billions.

        Point out the injustice and I’ll happily criticize her for it. I figured it could probably wait until the Musks, Ellisons, Suckerbergs, Bozos, Pages, Brins, Trumps, and their ilk had been reckoned with but if a pop singer is really that big of a problem count me in on the hate train.

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        10 hours ago

        Trailer Park Boys rock!🤘

        I was more addressing the other commenters who did seem to be slagging on her.

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          Yeah it’s dumb. She doesn’t bother me, she’s successful, good for her, and she hasn’t seemed to abuse anyone. Also she’s had some terrifying stalkers. Nobody deserves that.

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    I’ve heard Taylor swift was manufactured to the point where she was introduced as the next megastar at a party of music producers before even her first single hit the shelves.

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      Seems unlikely for a country artist, which she was when her first album came out; if it was manufactured from the start, I’d expect it to be pop from the get-go

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        22 hours ago

        My favourite Taylor swift fact is that she was the babysitter and piano teacher for the pro wrestler Jeff Jarrett’s kids, that’s right double J, that’s J-E-double F, J-A-double R- E, double T.

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      Then again I wonder, does that really matter? Someone is writing those songs and they have a clear handwriting, so it is almost certainly herself. Also many of them are very good as well (although maybe not for you).

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      Isn’t that pretty normal, though? That doesn’t mean she isn’t talented.

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        23 hours ago

        i assume she must be a good dancer, having not seen her perform but having heard her concert vocal feeds. i’m a “professional” musician in that I’ve been paid a few times, i’ve earned far far less than she has and maybe someday I’ll get to 5 figures but like her voice is rough. either that or she’s just being paid billions for being pretty, which might be enough to push me over the edge.

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          23 hours ago

          A live concert feed is vastly different than recording in a studio, especially for performers that move around a lot. I would argue that her vocal performance in a live concert doesn’t reflect her vocal abilities in the studio.

          Like, I totally understand why people wouldn’t like her music. It absolutely is not for everyone (just like all other music), but people who imply or flat out state she therefore doesn’t have any real talent are just crazy imho.

          I’m not a fan, so I really don’t have any skin in the game, I just don’t get why people hate on her so much.

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            22 hours ago

            i guess my bias comes from going to a high school where about 1% of the student population was in a show choir where folk danced more than she does and sang better than those concert feeds at the same time. so over the years i’ve gotten to know about 100 people who fit that bill and i’m not from the largest town. statistically extrapolating, there have to be tons of us.