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Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
“I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023
Finally a good guy with a gun
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.
They were going to no matter what because no one is willing to stop them. Now there’s one less.
He ded?
He ded now
Were? They already are. Is there no one who remembers what happened in Minnesota a few months ago?
*Fewer
Things is, talking like this, using these words means you gotta keep shooting people. So you better start buying bullets
Don’t kid yourself, whatever they were going to do, is going to taken up a few notches.
However you feel about his dying, the manner of his death will absolutely change what happens next.
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas.
Republicans are marching National Guard soldiers into the largest cities in America on exaggerated “crime fighting” excuses. They have established an unaccountable militia with ICE hiding their identities and violating the civil rights of American citizens on exaggerated or fabricated drug/violence reasons. They’ve needed no legitimate excuses to do these things, yet they are actively doing them. This changes nothing on that front.
They’ll make up whatever excuses they need either way so it doesn’t really make a difference.
They’re going to do fascism no matter what! They don’t care about truth. They can just make shit up if they need to rile up their supporters.
Except they haven’t needed an excuse to date. I’m sick of this boogyman. Punch back, they haven’t been pulling any punches.
It’ll be interesting to see the contrast with the political response to this assassination compared to the Democratic Minnesota lawmaker that was assassinated a couple months ago
I get the distinct feeling conservatives won’t be nearly as silent about this one
It will be like the Iraq war.
Saudi Arabia was responsible, but we’re going to attack Iraq instead.
This accelerates it for sure. I think more of what this will do is show us a clear line of liberals becoming fascist as they criticize “leftist violence”.
And, to be clear, we have no idea what the motivation of the shooter was. THAT MOTIVATION DOES NOT MATTER. Please do not waste your time arguing with the fascist over this. They already made up their mind on how they would use this for their narrative. They control all media outlets.
Get off the internet and get ready to keep your family and neighbors safe. This was coming. But it’s coming faster now. The liberals will only focus on condemning this violence NOT the state violence that is about to follow.
I think this is a net positive, especially because the shooter was reportedly an old white guy
You mean like deploying troops in our cities?
Oh wait, they already did that.
Or, do you mean shipping people off the concentration camps?
Oh shit, that’s already being done.
What you’re upset about is that the fascism has stepped closer to YOU.
They do that anyway. Fuck 'em.
Oh, yeah, they will, but that’s inevitable anyway. It won’t occur to them that oppressing Dems will only make them stronger and more resolved. Nothing has created more terrorists than Conservative military operations.
Inb4 Fox News talking heads all get Secret Service protection, so Trump can continue watching them all day.
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Just for the chance that this snowballs and we get more good guys with guns making moves like this, I’m buying a bag of popcorn kernels and cheap “champagne” (because I can’t afford anything else).
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I get the attempt at dark humor but honestly, damn, for me, that’s a no.
This is just my perspective, and I never wish harm or suffering on another living being, but if what/who you are and advocate for causes these things and you’re too stupid or bribed to see it and continue being you… Then, for the greater good, good riddance
Don’t get me wrong, he got what he advocated for, I’m certainly not crying or really feeling anything about his death but huh, I guess dude FAFO’ed. I just don’t find the “good guy with a gun” comment appropriate here that’s all even if a small sliver of me goes “yeah, kinda, yeah” because more than likely that guy is very much not a good guy, probably very mentally ill.
Just my thoughts.
From the bits I saw of the alleged shooter getting arrested, to me it looks like the guy was planning on getting caught. Balding old white men who can shoot like that don’t strike me as the type who run away.
EDIT: Waiting for confirmation on whether the actual suspect is caught or not.
Last I saw the shooter is still free, the person originally arrested is not involved and has been released.
Hmm. I guess we’ll wait and see.
per AP:
Person taken into custody after Charlie Kirk was shot in Utah is not believed to be shooting suspect, AP source says
A statement released by the university said a “single shot was fired on campus toward a visiting speaker. Police are investigating now, suspect in custody.” A university spokeswoman later told the New York Times that police had determined the person detained earlier was not the shooter, and that no suspect was currently in custody.
Looks like the guy initially arrested turned out to not be involved (maybe just another guy with a high powered rifle? Don’t know, must make things hard in the US). Or have they since arrested someone else?
Probably one of those “open carry” dipshits, hanging around to show off his gun, and when someone gets shot, he’s the first guy they focus on, giving the real shooter a head start on his escape. Nice job being a witless accomplice.
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I completely understand, and I actually wish that I could share your perspective. Unfortunately for my “empathy for all” perspective, I couldn’t help but smile when I read that he got shot. Because my mind directly went to the “oh, this is gonna alleviate so much suffering” POV
My reaction:
“Wait, who got shot? Really? Wow. So, what’s for dinner?”
“oh, this is gonna alleviate so much suffering”
That’s not how these things usually go. Quite the opposite.
I’m adding FAFOed to my lexicon
I haven’t read about, and am not interested in the shooter.
My opinion is only that the world is better off without Charlie Kirk, nothing else at this point.
what/who you are and advocate for causes these things
“If someone tries to assassinate you, it’s because you deserve it”, in other words.
Seems like a pretty dangerous stance to take.
We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. That’s the context that every discussion of Kirk’s death should begin with.
I don’t know. This is only going to cause MAGA to ramp up their fascism, and give them a better excuse to enact further violence on us, the citizens.
wHo CoUlD hAvE sEeN tHiS cOmInG?!?!
The ramp up was always going to happen anyway. Everyone knows that appeasement doesn’t work on Nazis.
I can even see an argument in which he was killed by his own as a sacrificial lamb as there is no bottom in the depths of their depravity.
They need exactly zero excuse other than brown people existing to ramp up their fascism and enact violence on Americans.
Any politician that completely supports Trump is fair game at this point. Things will not return to normal by talking. If you dont wanna live in a dictatorship wake the fuck up. If you live in the US (i luckily dont) then learn how to use a gun, because its gonna get much much worse than the way it is right now.
Yes, as long as people are willing to resort to murder in support of their ideology.
How’s this for dark humour?
I just have to ask, is it because another human being was shot or were you one of the people celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden?
Humor?
They’re not really using humour. Americans are actually this fucked up. Have mercy.
I’ve now heard these things in reference to Americans from non-americans:
- Why aren’t you doing something about the rising fascist republicans?
And now:
- Americans are fucked up for doing something against a prominent fascist government supporter
I’m not sure which you want anymore.
There’s more than one person outside of America.
Right, and it being too violent to some and not violent enough to others is evidence that, in this regard, it is on neither extreme.
I understand that, but the people saying these things about Americans also speak like Americans are one person, and also I said non-americans so I thought that was implied. I didn’t mean to say everyone outside of America is one person.
Big if true
“are you not entertained?!?”
I have mercy for those that aren’t actively trying to harm and take advantage of those worse off than themselves.
The fascist and their enablers can eat a bullet so we can have a better tomorrow.
I mean, have mercy on Americans. Spare me the tough talk, I’m not impressed.
I’m not trying to impress you. Relax.
Trump ally Charlie Kirk suggests children should watch public executions
He ended up being the one being executed publicly
Reminder that this is Kirk’s stance on guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVc9l6pjxtI
Unfettered 2A is worth the gun deaths according to Charlie Idiot here.
ETA: holy shit, saw a clip and damn, that dude is dead.
My non-mod opinion on this:
Trump is posting Kirk is dead.
Not going to celebrate, just noting:
“I can’t stand the word ‘empathy’, I think it’s a made up New Age term.” - Charlie Kirk
Trump ordered flags at half mast until Sunday. So this piece of shit got what he quite literally asked for and it’s a national tragedy, but innocent children killed in schools on a weekly basis get “nothing we can do about it, thoughts an prayers 🤷♂️.” Fucking clownshow.
He was sitting at what he calls the “prove me wrong” table, answering questions about gun violence.
I think someone managed it.
Okay. Let me try to make a comment here that won’t get obliterated as it’s going to be real, REAL hard to dance within the lines on this.
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Hokay… I obviously do not condone violence of any kind. But… literally no one can be surprised by this happening. Certainly not them. They’ve been pushing extremely violent rhetoric for years and Charlie Kirk is not exactly a subtle small face in all of that.
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Astounding accuracy. I mean it wasn’t like Kirk was moving around a whole lot in the situation but still.
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Huge crowd, or at least for what I would expect, but I’m surprised no one saw something.
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Angle of attack is kind of surprising as well. Kirk was sat fairly low down with a covering over the top. Relatively shallow angle from what I could see in order to be able to hit him. Shot seems to have come from his right.
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His right is exposed overall but does anyone know what’s actually to the left there?
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And lastly, I am wondering how this is going to impact Nazis like Kirk in general. Are they going to ramp it up or step it down? Also wonder how long before people start saying it was done by some trans antifa palestinian who came to Utah from NYC via LA.
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Oh, so this is the school shooting that Conservatives suddenly give two shits about?
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My water heater started leaking over the weekend. It was only seven years old, but I suppose since the warranty was six years, I shouldn’t complain? Anyway, I installed my new water heater today, so I can shower again. This one has a 12-year warranty, it might out live me.
I just took a shower, I feel great. I’ll be going for a walk around sunset. It’s been a good day.
There’s so many layers of irony to this event. You can’t make this shit up.
A man, who made a career downplaying gun violence and advocating against empathy for its victims, was shot while giving a talk about his favorite topic under a tent that said “Prove me wrong”, on a college campus in a state that just lifted its ban on weapons on college campuses. His own quotes can be endlessly used to shut down any outrage at his ironic demise.
Charlie Kirk’s final moments were spent being definitively and completely proven wrong.
If this wasn’t going to used as an excuse to ban Trans people from owning firearms and for further violence against the opposition, it would be hilarious.
