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    Nothing in the article mentions how many people actually unsubbed…

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      Only Disney has those numbers, and releasing them would tank the stock that’s already dipping.

      There is zero reason for them to admit what is happening.

      Also of note, trump is pushing for it to go from quarterly to (I think) annual reports, so companies will be able to hide this stuff for longer, the whole time doing insider trading.

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      It’s because nobody but Disney has that data, and they stopped sharing sub numbers because it fucks with stock price too much.

      Talkin out their ass seems to be Newsweek’s brand identity these days.

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      We’ll never know exactly how many. I suppose there’s a way for outsiders to estimate it, but that won’t happen for weeks or months. Disney certainly won’t tell the truth over this.

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      I guess we’ll see the numbers in quarterly reports. If they release them, as the orange cunt babbled something about not needing those from companies recently.

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      How many people unsubbed isnt the point. The point is that you clicked. They did the same bait articles when Disney fired Gina Carano, and “the right” were all saying they were cancelling disney plus. I look around at the comments, and they are all pretty much the exact same. Just the political leanings have switched. Its both hilarious and incredibly sad at the same time.

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      Let me guess without opening: it is based twitter screenshots are quotes from users who are supposedly cancelled their subscription

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      But people are talking about it on Twitter, and what happens on Twitter is more real than reality itself!

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      The only reason I’ve never canceled is because I’ve never subscribed.

      But I wish I had something to cancel in protest of the egregious 1st amendment violations.

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        I also don’t subscribe, but have paid to watch the occasional Marvel movie. I’m happy to pass on whatever they’ve got lined up next if it gets them to take their role in fostering free speech more seriously.

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    I saw this suggestion on the site that shall not be named.

    Find a Nexstar or Sinclair owned channel, note the advertisers in there, and start shaming them for paying money to advertise on those networks. Literally 50% of their revenue comes from ads so gutting that would make a difference

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      Here’s Sinclair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stations_owned_or_operated_by_Sinclair_Broadcast_Group

      Here’s Nexstar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Nexstar_Media_Group

      Edit: *David Smith, son of the founder and currently CEO of Sinclair, has a hilarious entry-

      In an August 1996 prostitution sting, Smith was charged with committing an “unnatural and perverted sex act” (oral sex) in a Sinclair company vehicle. He was sentenced to community service, which was fulfilled by having Sinclair station WBFF produce reports on a local drug counseling program.[14][15]

      Aaaaand not so funny-

      Prior to Ajit Pai’s appointment under the first Donald Trump presidential administration as chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), Smith met with Pai to discuss deregulation of the FCC’s media ownership rules. This meeting, plus Sinclair having been granted additional access to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, resulted in accusations that Sinclair was currying favor with the Trump administration in exchange for deregulation of the industry.[16][17][18] Smith met with Republican Party presidential candidate Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election year, in which he told Trump, “We are here to deliver your message.”[3]

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      Yeah, pressure at all levels.

      You can also look at a local station’s website and see advertising partners. Not the little fish that buy 1-2 ads a year for a local business, the ones that get their ads ran the most and in the best timeslots.

      That’s where pressure is best applied on affiliates

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    Maybe I’m just cynical, but I feel like everyone cancelling is going to forget about this in a few months when the news cycle moves on and a new Star Wars show comes out or something.

    Has a disorganized boycott like this ever worked? (honest question)

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      A lot of us are only here because we wanted to join a consumer action against Reddit. The first few months I was on Lemmy every post was about how Reddit users were fleeing in droves and we were going to show those big bad corporate clowns over at Reddit not to mess with us and Reddit would collapse within weeks.

      Welp. Reddit is doing just fine, so yeah, color me cynical as well. I like it better here though.

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        Reddit is a wasteland where every informative post is now marked as DELETED by those of us who torched our donated content as we left. It’s full of garbage posts now, and mods who don’t care.

        Do they still manage to attract ad revenue, sure, so does X after Musk turned it into a fascist turd bath. Is it as valuable as it used to be? Not by a longshot.

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          Oh, yes, I 100% agree with this. I’m shocked and horrified every time I get curious enough to poke my head back in there and see how it’s going. Yeah, I only meant they are doing fine in terms of weathering the boycott efforts financially. The Reddit I knew and loved is long gone.

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        A big plus is that I can actually interact with people here in a usually lighthearted manner. You can still find that on Reddit, but it is extremely hard to do now unless you have some extremely niche interests.

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        Reddit had no monetary cost.

        It’s much easier to stick to a boycott when it requires a layer of active acceptance and payment to acquiesce.

        Reddit is just… there. A query on basically any search engine is going to serve you up reddit links, and clicking one of them costs you nothing.* Since you don’t have to commit to the decision there’s far less resistance to backsliding.

        *Yes, I know, there is a privacy and personal content/traffic cost. We both know that’s not what I’m talking about.

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      For me, it’s not about boycott to affect. I just don’t want to give my money to what I do not believe. It’s a personal choice, I can’t control anything, I am just trying to live my life. This is a small thing I can control.

      It’s like why delete my Reddit account to be here.

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        I ended up being a bit of a hypocrite by not cancelling Hulu when Disney bought them. I gave money to Big Mouse. Not anymore.

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      The very personal and highly disorganized boycott of American goods and services by Canadians is definitely having an effect on several sectors including tourism, alcohol, and media.

      Tourism alone has resulted in a loss of about 30 BILLION.

      Because the regime and his sycophantic cunts are fucked and can suck our collective dick.

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        Tourism alone has resulted in a loss of about 30 BILLION.

        fam in vegas is looking to move because the writing is on the wall. foreigners coming to gamble in this shit? yeah let’s go to munich 1940 for a happy time. :|

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        Target definitely took a hit, but I think that actually proves the point of the question. The backlash was loud and visible, but do we know that shoppers haven’t already returned to normal now that it’s out of the current news cycle?

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          Target stock is down but it is hard to tell. There have been some mismanaged Target stores in my general area that have closed, but there are also many that seem to be run well and are always full of people. You can compare it to Walmart but I don’t think it is a 1:1 comparison since most Walmart locations are also full blown grocery stores and they typically have more locations in suburb/exurb/rural areas that have fewer shopping options.

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            My local Target has a serious Kmart-at-the-bitter-end vibe going. Lots of empty shelves, stuff sloppily displayed, sullen and unhelpful workers etc. etc. Everything in the grocery section is way more expensive than it is at local grocery stores. I just don’t get why anybody shops there. I only go there because I’m a school bus driver and a good chunk of the tips I get from parents are in the form of Target gift cards. But all I can find worth buying is cheap bicycle gear.

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          do we know that shoppers haven’t already returned to normal now that it’s out of the current news cycle?

          Yeah man, otherwise we wouldn’t be participating in this conversation right?

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      Yes. Boycotts don’t need to be organized to be effective. Some (def not all, and not usually Disney for that matter) to listen to fan and customer feedback.

      Companies track their income trends extremely closely. Even a blip of 1% will be reported on in every shareholder meeting and need to be explained.

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      worked?

      Depends on your expectations.

      Will they say f’it and bring Kimmel back in the face of the government shutting them down?

      No

      Will they consider a 10% loss, even if ephemeral, in their next action? Sure. But they’ve already made this calculation, they already knew what was on the line and they weighed it against what the administration was going to do for/against them and it made financial sense.

      I’m down to bash big corp as much as the next person, but this is a failure of the people in letting the government do whatever they want. If the people aren’t going to stand against the government, why do we expect the corporations to?

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        It’s very awkward. I think they mean you can stop the intent to cancel, so cancel the cancellation.

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          After careful consideration, I think their intent was to say…

          You can come back anytime and if you do, you can always cancel at anytime.

          … More or Less. Basically saying you can join and cancel at your leisure.

          That’s a terrible way to say it, but ok.

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          It was oddly easy. Click the cancel button and that was it. No “are you sure” BS. Not like SiriusXM, whom I’m also boycotting for being shit.

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    The suspension of the show has been met with condemnation and praise from both sides of the political spectrum.

    Who on the left is praising it? Is this deliberate bullshit by Newsweek, or just careless copyediting?

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      It’s really sloppy wordmanship but I think what it’s supposed to be saying is that the news has been met with both condemnation and praise from across the political spectrum aka condemnation from the left, and praise from the right. So technically the statement is true, but clumsily written.

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        I guess it depends on whether you regard “Republicans Against Trump” as being on the Left. Trump probably does.

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            Exactly. You could check every box in MAGA Bingo, but if you have the slightest qualms about sending innocent people to a life sentence in a third world torture prison without due process, you’re as liberal as a San Francisco Homo or a Black Woman.

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    I’ve already started my journey to replace all streaming services with jellyfin anyway so i will be cancelling mine too.

    This jimmy kimmel business just sweetens the deal.

    got an old raspberry pi set up as a jump box with a tailscale vpn so i can remotely power up my pc from anywhere and watch anything i have downloaded. Just need to get a dedicated server and storage, either nas or internal in a larger tower. But for now its working really well.

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      Do you have a good, idiot-friendly, guide on how to set up JellyFin? I tried once but wasn’t able to get anything to stream.

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          This looks good! I will experiment with this when i get a more modern pi. Currently running pihole and tailscale on a 2012 pi1b

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        Oh! In addition, if you want to access it from a tv or mobile device you install the client on those devices and point them at the same IP and port. My lg tv has jellyfin in the store, firesticks have it, play store (i assume apple app store too) amd the server can be managed from there too.

        You can set up users and allow each user to acces different content in the settings which is good if you have kids and want to keep them from watching john wick 😜

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        I’ve had trouble getting Jellyfish to stream anything. The error message it gives you in the client GUI make it sound like the problem is client-side, but it always ends up being permissions on the server (for me, anyway).

        I ended up having to move my media drive into /mnt/<drive> (rather than /mnt/<username>/<drive>) and allow Jellyfin to access that folder - the Jellyfin service needs permissions.

        The Jellyfin log files will show you that is having trouble accessing the files of this is the issue.

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          The Voyager app wouldn’t let me edit my comment for some reason… So here’s the edit I was going to add.

          I really dislike AI but the most concise set of instructions I could find was googling “Linux Mint drive permissions jellyfin” and following the instructions the AI spits out. Definitely read through the instructions and make sure they seem same first, tho.

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        Perhaps its been made easier now as i don’t think i did much more than running the installer. My pc is on windows though, my server will likely be using some version of linux. I want to learn linux but need my main pc too much to make it a daily driver.

        I used these instrctions for the windows installer

        https://jellyfin.org/docs/

        (Click the windows link there)

        Run the installer (can set it as a service but thats only necessary if you want to run it on boot instead of after login. Afaik.)

        Once installed you can access it via your local ipaddress:8096 (eg http://192.168.1.100:8096/)

        From there you can head to management in the menus and set up your folders for movies/tv shows etc. You just make some folders somewhere on your pc and point it at those. Download all your content and organise it in there. Jellyfin is quite good at dividing things up into individual series and uses meta data to fill in names and thumbnails etc. And you can select the 3 dots when hovering over any thumbnails to edit the metadata or add custom thumnails etc.

        I just tinker with it though. Decide what settings you want to use. I still need to set up https but need to look into self signed certificates and stuff first.

        Hope that helps.

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          You have to run it as a service if you want it to run at all it has no GUI save for its web interface available when the service is running

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          Me and my wife both have desktop PC. The Windows version just has an installer as one would expect. The Linux version I used is the variety you just unzip in a directory and run from there which is about as easy.

          I have configured each machine to have a stable IP on the LAN and bookmarked it and if we want to watch each others content we just click on the bookmark for each others jellyfin.

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      Aoostar makes some really great tiny NAS devices based on the Intel N100/N150 series, and they also have an AMD unit if that’s your jam (it’s mine). If you buy the one with built in main storage it comes with Windows 11 Pro installed but you can wipe that and install Linux or a dedicated NAS OS if you wish. Or just save money and throw a NVMe SSD in for the OS and a bunch of HDDs for media and go to town.

      The best part is you can buy direct from Aoostar, no need to buy from Amazon though they are offered there too.

      https://aoostar.com/collections/nas-series

      I also like UGREEN’s NAS offerings, they come with their own custom NAS OS that supports Docker so you can run all your *arrs and Jellyfin and other server apps as containers. The web-based interface is like using a normal Linux or macOS desktop.

      https://nas.ugreen.com/

      See you on the high seas, matey.

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        Thanks for the info. These look brilliant! I am more AMD incljned also but ive read that in terms of transcoding media, Intel is better. I have time though. Not gonna buy anything until after christmas.

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      got an old raspberry pi set up as a jump box with a tailscale vpn so i can remotely power up my pc from anywhere and watch anything i have downloaded. Just need to get a dedicated server and storage, either nas or internal in a larger tower. But for now its working really well.

      cyberpunk is now.

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        Look into:

        Talescale for an easy but limited option.

        Wireguard with a dynamic DNS service for something that provides more flexibility with a little set up.

        Don’t open a publicly facing port unless it’s for an encrypted tunnel. If you don’t want to open your computer to a lot of threats. Always use an encrypted tunnel when opening something to the Internet.

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          Thanks. I previously setup Tailscale but couldn’t quite get it to work. I’ll keep troubleshooting or see if there’s other options.

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    I didn’t have a Disney channel to unsubscribe from so I cancelled my Apple subscription.

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      Fair.

      I closed my apple subscription at the time because I don’t have any apple devices, but I’d close it again if I could.

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    Don’t forget, Hulu is owned by Disney too. Honestly, I’m done with video streaming at least for a while. I never have time anymore to watch anything so it’s just a money suck and physical media is better anyway.

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    In addition to cancelling, which is the MOST important thing:

    What about uninstalling their apps?

    App providers can see the number of installations on the different platforms (Apple, Roku, Android, etc). That count falling will further raise their disquiet. Leaving an app installed or continuing to use the service before the cancellation is processed could send an unintentional message that maybe this is all just temporary and we’ll come back in a couple of weeks after the news cycle plays out.

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      That shit is pre installed and unremovable for most non-techies using their normal tv os. It’s so annoying too.

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        The most annoying thing is they put buttons on the remote for services I don’t subscribe to. Accidentally press one of those buttons when trying to change the volume? Well I guess we’re spending the next 30 seconds opening a streaming service I don’t use and then existing out of it (which they make unnecessarily difficult to do) and then finding my way back to what I was watching.

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      Did that but also removed my account, I was not an active subscriber, but after logging in they push you towards subscribing. AFAIK you can only delelte your account via live chat, be sure to mention Art. 17 GDPR Right to erasure (‘right to be forgotten’).

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    I’m all for Disney getting the cancellations they deserve, but articles like this one are entirely sensationalist. No one can know the real numbers of cancellations unless Disney announces them, which will never happen.

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      The fact the cancellation page has been seen crashing multiple times, and that so many people are actively posting screenshots of their cancellation does lend credibility to the fact that it’s still happening on a large scale, though.

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        The fact the cancellation page has been seen crashing multiple times

        That’s standard business practice for every subscription service. “Oh, hey, sorry. Your attempt to stop paying us money isn’t working right now. Try again later.”

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          Amazon had a process notoriously called “The Iliad” where it was a literal journey to unsubscribe from Prime.

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      No one can know the real numbers of cancellations unless Disney announces them, which will never happen.

      Quarterly earnings…

      183 million Disney+ and Hulu subscriptions, an increase of 2.6 million versus Q2 fiscal 2025

      128 million Disney+ subscribers, an increase of 1.8 million versus Q2 fiscal 2025

      https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-reports-third-quarter-and-nine-months-earnings-for-fiscal-2025/

      But internally they monitor this metric on a day-to-day metric, people are absolutely losing their shit over the cancellation at Disney.

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        Oh shit, and the current fiscal quarter ends in like a week, so we should hear about the numbers near the first week of November.

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          Probably not. Disney has previously announced that they’re gonna stop reporting subscriber numbers in 10Ks and annual reports.

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            It looks like they did announce that a month or two ago, but they also said that the new policy wouldn’t apply to Disney+ & hulu until 2026. Espn+ numbers though won’t be reported for Q4 this year.

            Then again, it looks like the cancellations aren’t immediate; they are still subscribers until the end of the billing period/month, so it may not affect the total subscriber count too much.

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      12 days ago

      Newsweek is shit. most of their articles are just left wing hopium with no substance whatsoever.