TIL giving a shit makes you gay.
It also makes you more appealing to women but the men don’t know that because Joe Rogan won’t invite a woman on his podcast to talk about it
Appealing to women is gay. They’re soft and flowery not hard and tight like a big strongman
A shame he’s a bigoted arsehole who thinks “you can’t say anything these days” now, but I felt obliged to link this standup
Sounds like a quote from The Art of Self-Defense
I mean, you suck a dick that’s just one dick. You kiss a woman, and you are kissing every dick which has ever been in that mouth.
Fellas, is it gay to ingest external stimuli to guide your personal decision making framework?
Hey baby, wanna come over to my place and I’ll ingest your external stimuli?
At very least, giving a shit makes you “woke” and the intent is the same as when they use gay as a slur (at least as far as i can follow their logic)
This for me is the weird cishet paradox. So afraid to look “weak”, that they obsess over not looking weak. But you know what looks super weak? Being insecure about being weak. Like, the more you have to prove you’re a big tough guy, the less big and tough you seem.
Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek.
Yeah, in the 1950s you were a big tough guy if you wore all leather and had tattoos.
Now you might be a tough biker dude, sure, or you might be a power bottom with a kink.
I think you’re imagining this as a more conscious process than it actually is. The reason you need to go out and research this is because these men aren’t going around saying, “yeah, I was going to put my pepsi can in the metal recycling but I was worried my bro would call me gay so I just put it in the general waste.” Instead, sometimes men put pepsi cans in general waste, and sometimes men do things due to social perceptions, and sometimes those social perceptions are that certain things are “unmanly” and working out which things are related to each other is quite hard.
So there’s no paradox here. All people are subject to social pressures, and the vast majority of people make some effort to conform to those pressures in order to fit in and to receive approval from the people they value. Conforming to fit in isn’t “weak” or “insecure”, it’s the nature of being a social animal, and is done instinctively - if you think it’s done “obsessively” then you’re imposing the analytical mindset of someone studying the evidence on the subjects of the research, which is a fundamental error. It’d be like saying someone who subconsciously mirrors the mannerisms of someone they respect is “obsessed” with getting their approval, when they likely don’t realise they’re doing it.
Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek.
They almost certainly haven’t because, again, if you’re “considering” it, it’s not the right concept. The concept that people are trying to avoid is the one that’s labeled “gay” by their peers, which is really more of a gender thing than a sexuality thing; “what are you, gay?” isn’t a question about someone’s sexuality, it’s a suggestion that someone is not conforming to the gender role expected of them. You can’t successfully challenge that by saying “ackshually gay people can be v strong and they forget to put the pepsi can in the correct bin far more often than you might imagine.” They’ll just reply with, “OK bro sounds pretty gay,” because you didn’t challenge them on what they meant, only on what you thought they meant.
The challenge has to be more along the lines of creating a better awareness of societal expectations, tolerance of people who don’t conform to them, and building up positive associations between behaviours we want to promote and conforming things people already value, to help them see things in a new light.
I am convinced that there is legitimately a genetic cognitive deficit which makes people think this way, because it is just so obvious and transparent to me that it can’t be an accident.
This is all subconscious shit that marketers have to deal with. There’s a good article about it here. What bothers me is not knowing what unconscious biases like this that I have.
One thing that I do is randomly select varieties of things that I buy (wrt color, scent, etc.) I can’t think of a time that I’ve ever regretted doing that.
Takes balls to be unmanly.
Being afraid of looking gay is pretty fucking gay.
Whenever I hear a homophobe in real life start talking about gays, I usually just say “Since I’m not gay, I don’t mentally think about what other men do in bed or with their dicks, but you do you”. Sounds better in my language, I’m sure you can make it sound more punchy
I’m 99% certain that homophobia stems from dudes being gay/bi but brought up in a “conservative” environment, so there’s a clash between what they secretly want and what they perceive as wrong.
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Being attracted to women because they are soft and feminine is pretty fucking gay, too
I use a reusable bag because I’m not paying an extra 40p every time I go fucking shopping.
How homosexual of you.
That’s the gayest thing I heard in a while. I see you talking but all I can hear are massive throating noises.
I’m so jealous of blackmist.
Masculinity is when you are afraid for how other people perceive you.
That’s the opposite of it.
Is this what alpha feels like? Are we all feeling alpha yet?
The Great Male Renunciation is the historical phenomenon at the end of the 18th century in which wealthy men of the Western world stopped using bright colours, elaborate shapes and variety in their dress, which were left to women’s clothing.
Straight men then: No matter what I do, I still hate the idea of sucking another man’s dick!
Straight men now: If I clean my ass too much I may want to suck another man’s dick.
The only reason for a man to be so concerned about another man’s sexuality, is they want to be a part of it.
Exactly
One of my coworkers loved to make “i bet so-and-so is gay, look at how he does stuff” joke remarks. I once had the chance to joke back: “Dunno man, you spend a LOT of time thinking about how he’s gay, you’re always paying attention to him, you’re always talking about him, that’s pretty gay of you” - That made him stop with those while I’m around, at least.
Some men don’t wash their asses because they think it’s gay.
They don’t wash their asses and think that is not a problem.
Homophobia is literally disgusting.
Pussies.
We need to go back to when men were men.
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Not men.
This is the original article the bitly link points to:
https://psmag.com/environment/how-gender-stereotypes-affect-pro-environment-behavior/
I see nowhere in there talking about anyone actually ‘avoiding green behavior to avoid being considered gay’, in real life.
The studies mentioned are surveys of hypothetical people, and its conclusion is something that’s already known and obvious: the more things you do that are associated with the stereotype of the sex you aren’t, the more likely it is that the average person will assume (correctly or not, but that’s beside the point) you are gay.
The only distinction is that they were looking only at how some ‘acts of environmentalism’ are stereotypically aligned with femininity, but the above is true of literally everything that’s stereotypically aligned with either femininity or masculinity.
“Suggests” is used in the screenshotted tweet to manipulate the reader into assuming things are taking place, without any evidence they actually are.
This post is disingenuous tripe.
I drive an EV, use my e bike to shop, carry my own bags both bike and car, and have a portable collapsible basket for shopping if I use my car. No one has ever asked if or suggested that I’m gay.
In fact, I see more people assuming I have kids (I have none).
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
Men are not afraid of being perceived as gay. Only insecure weirdos that need therapy are afraid of that.
I’ve met a handful of straight men who were not afraid to be perceived as gay and humorously played along. They were usually the coolest guys in the room. Hell, the confidence alone made them more attractive, but I don’t go there.
I’m a queer enby and I do the little circle below the waist gesture, with my hand, to get my friend’s (my infinitely heteronormative friend) attention and then tell him because he looked he’s gay now. This is something the cis-boys in highschool used to joke around about because being gay was THE WORST thing you could be perceived as. I think it’s harmless with my friend though he does get flustered that he’s not gay and it’s kinda cute.
You must be young still. I don’t deny that - as you say - in school being perceived as gay was kind of bad / an insult, but that was us growing up in an atmosphere of toxic masculinity. I have matured beyond that and would laugh at such a prank.
Oh I just started my 30s I never did it as a teen personally, just witnessed others do it in toxic masculine form and now I my adulthood find it funny to emulate it towards someone who might have done it seriously in their teens for the laughs.
There’s nuances to everything. My oldest “heteronormative” friend and I sometimes call each other honey and blow a kiss into the air, without being serious about it nor meaning it to mock people.
Actively trying to avoid looking gay, is fucking gay.
How do you figure?
Because it’s stupid.
Being gay is not stupid. Trying your best to not look gay just makes you look closeted. And stupid.Trying your best to not look gay just makes you look closeted.
Only to those who’ve already made assumptions about that person.
It screams insecurity.
So, insecurity is gay?
Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but the thing dies in the process.
- “Actively trying to avoid looking gay, is fucking gay.” is not a joke.
- That’s actually not really true. A lot of great comedy is born from the ‘dissection’ of previous comedy, understanding how/why it was so effective. Analysis isn’t destructive.
Just stop.
Don’t like to think about things, do you? You just comment.
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Don’t like to think about things, do you? You just comment.
Extremely ironic thing to say, considering you’re the one actively failing to follow your own line of thinking.
Why does it make you so uncomfortable to be asked a simple question that directly follows from your own words? Ironically, your decision to insult me instead of simply answering the question “screams insecurity”.
Also ironically, you’ve almost certainly put zero thought into how statements like that are fundamentally homophobic; they indirectly perpetuate stereotypes about how gay people act.
Perhaps think about that, instead of projecting your thoughtlessness onto others.
Lol type some more walls of text to feel better
Don’t like to think about things, do you? You just comment.
