- So dumb. I love my big bag. There is a store where I can grab a scanning “gun” and walk along adding my items into my bag. Then it’s a really quick checkout at the self serve machine. 
- We need to go back to when men were men. - amen 🙏 
 
- The Great Male Renunciation is the historical phenomenon at the end of the 18th century in which wealthy men of the Western world stopped using bright colours, elaborate shapes and variety in their dress, which were left to women’s clothing. 
- Being afraid of looking gay is pretty fucking gay. 
- So… gay people actually have a cultural advantage for once. That’s a rare one. - Yeah, damn. 
 
- Pussies. 
- I use a reusable bag because I’m not paying an extra 40p every time I go fucking shopping. - That’s the gayest thing I heard in a while. I see you talking but all I can hear are massive throating noises. 
- How homosexual of you. 
 
- Masculinity is when you are afraid for how other people perceive you. - Is this what alpha feels like? Are we all feeling alpha yet? 
- That’s the opposite of it. 
 
- Men are not afraid of being perceived as gay. Only insecure weirdos that need therapy are afraid of that. - I’ve met a handful of straight men who were not afraid to be perceived as gay and humorously played along. They were usually the coolest guys in the room. Hell, the confidence alone made them more attractive, but I don’t go there. 
 
- Straight white dude here and not afraid of being perceived as gay! Long hair to boot. - My wardrobe could best be described as “lazy Saturday afternoon.” I just want to wear comfortable clothes in muted colours. I don’t like drawing attention to myself. - The whole “long hair = gay” thing is such weird boomer shit. It’s right up there with believing that gay men wear dresses and makeup. - It’s not even 21st century homophobia. It’s like something out of the 1950s. 
 
- The only reason for a man to be so concerned about another man’s sexuality, is they want to be a part of it. - Exactly 
 
- TIL giving a shit makes you gay. - Fellas, is it gay to ingest external stimuli to guide your personal decision making framework? 
- It also makes you more appealing to women but the men don’t know that because Joe Rogan won’t invite a woman on his podcast to talk about it - Appealing to women is gay. They’re soft and flowery not hard and tight like a big strongman  
- I mean, you suck a dick that’s just one dick. You kiss a woman, and you are kissing every dick which has ever been in that mouth. 
- A shame he’s a bigoted arsehole who thinks “you can’t say anything these days” now, but I felt obliged to link this standup 
- Sounds like a quote from The Art of Self-Defense 
 
 
- At very least, giving a shit makes you “woke” and the intent is the same as when they use gay as a slur (at least as far as i can follow their logic) 
 
- I’ll wear a pink tutu to the store if I so decide. I’m a man, I don’t care how I’m perceived. 
- This for me is the weird cishet paradox. So afraid to look “weak”, that they obsess over not looking weak. But you know what looks super weak? Being insecure about being weak. Like, the more you have to prove you’re a big tough guy, the less big and tough you seem. - Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek. - This is all subconscious shit that marketers have to deal with. There’s a good article about it here. What bothers me is not knowing what unconscious biases like this that I have. - One thing that I do is randomly select varieties of things that I buy (wrt color, scent, etc.) I can’t think of a time that I’ve ever regretted doing that. 
- I am convinced that there is legitimately a genetic cognitive deficit which makes people think this way, because it is just so obvious and transparent to me that it can’t be an accident. 
- I think you’re imagining this as a more conscious process than it actually is. The reason you need to go out and research this is because these men aren’t going around saying, “yeah, I was going to put my pepsi can in the metal recycling but I was worried my bro would call me gay so I just put it in the general waste.” Instead, sometimes men put pepsi cans in general waste, and sometimes men do things due to social perceptions, and sometimes those social perceptions are that certain things are “unmanly” and working out which things are related to each other is quite hard. - So there’s no paradox here. All people are subject to social pressures, and the vast majority of people make some effort to conform to those pressures in order to fit in and to receive approval from the people they value. Conforming to fit in isn’t “weak” or “insecure”, it’s the nature of being a social animal, and is done instinctively - if you think it’s done “obsessively” then you’re imposing the analytical mindset of someone studying the evidence on the subjects of the research, which is a fundamental error. It’d be like saying someone who subconsciously mirrors the mannerisms of someone they respect is “obsessed” with getting their approval, when they likely don’t realise they’re doing it. - Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek. - They almost certainly haven’t because, again, if you’re “considering” it, it’s not the right concept. The concept that people are trying to avoid is the one that’s labeled “gay” by their peers, which is really more of a gender thing than a sexuality thing; “what are you, gay?” isn’t a question about someone’s sexuality, it’s a suggestion that someone is not conforming to the gender role expected of them. You can’t successfully challenge that by saying “ackshually gay people can be v strong and they forget to put the pepsi can in the correct bin far more often than you might imagine.” They’ll just reply with, “OK bro sounds pretty gay,” because you didn’t challenge them on what they meant, only on what you thought they meant. - The challenge has to be more along the lines of creating a better awareness of societal expectations, tolerance of people who don’t conform to them, and building up positive associations between behaviours we want to promote and conforming things people already value, to help them see things in a new light. 
- Yeah, in the 1950s you were a big tough guy if you wore all leather and had tattoos. - Now you might be a tough biker dude, sure, or you might be a power bottom with a kink. 
 
- I’m over here bringing in like 4 reusable bags (one is a pink tote I got from a work thing years ago) so I can not only pack three times the groceries in one bag but also not take a plastic bag I have to then recycle somehow. 









