- Everyone thinks i’m gay anyway. Might as well bring my own reusable bag. 
- We need to go back to when men were men. - amen 🙏 - 1 upvote = 1 prayer 
- Not men. 
 
 
- The Great Male Renunciation is the historical phenomenon at the end of the 18th century in which wealthy men of the Western world stopped using bright colours, elaborate shapes and variety in their dress, which were left to women’s clothing. 
- Being afraid of looking gay is pretty fucking gay. - Whenever I hear a homophobe in real life start talking about gays, I usually just say “Since I’m not gay, I don’t mentally think about what other men do in bed or with their dicks, but you do you”. Sounds better in my language, I’m sure you can make it sound more punchy 
 
- So dumb. I love my big bag. There is a store where I can grab a scanning “gun” and walk along adding my items into my bag. Then it’s a really quick checkout at the self serve machine. 
- So… gay people actually have a cultural advantage for once. That’s a rare one. - Yeah, damn. 
 
- Pussies. 
- I use a reusable bag because I’m not paying an extra 40p every time I go fucking shopping. - That’s the gayest thing I heard in a while. I see you talking but all I can hear are massive throating noises. - I’m so jealous of blackmist. 
 
- How homosexual of you. 
 
- Masculinity is when you are afraid for how other people perceive you. - That’s the opposite of it. 
- Is this what alpha feels like? Are we all feeling alpha yet? 
 
- Men are not afraid of being perceived as gay. Only insecure weirdos that need therapy are afraid of that. - I’ve met a handful of straight men who were not afraid to be perceived as gay and humorously played along. They were usually the coolest guys in the room. Hell, the confidence alone made them more attractive, but I don’t go there. - I’m a queer enby and I do the little circle below the waist gesture, with my hand, to get my friend’s (my infinitely heteronormative friend) attention and then tell him because he looked he’s gay now. This is something the cis-boys in highschool used to joke around about because being gay was THE WORST thing you could be perceived as. I think it’s harmless with my friend though he does get flustered that he’s not gay and it’s kinda cute. 
 
 
- TIL giving a shit makes you gay. - Fellas, is it gay to ingest external stimuli to guide your personal decision making framework? 
- It also makes you more appealing to women but the men don’t know that because Joe Rogan won’t invite a woman on his podcast to talk about it - Appealing to women is gay. They’re soft and flowery not hard and tight like a big strongman  
- A shame he’s a bigoted arsehole who thinks “you can’t say anything these days” now, but I felt obliged to link this standup 
- Sounds like a quote from The Art of Self-Defense 
- I mean, you suck a dick that’s just one dick. You kiss a woman, and you are kissing every dick which has ever been in that mouth. 
 
 
- At very least, giving a shit makes you “woke” and the intent is the same as when they use gay as a slur (at least as far as i can follow their logic) 
 
- This for me is the weird cishet paradox. So afraid to look “weak”, that they obsess over not looking weak. But you know what looks super weak? Being insecure about being weak. Like, the more you have to prove you’re a big tough guy, the less big and tough you seem. - Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek. - Takes balls to be unmanly. 
- This is all subconscious shit that marketers have to deal with. There’s a good article about it here. What bothers me is not knowing what unconscious biases like this that I have. - One thing that I do is randomly select varieties of things that I buy (wrt color, scent, etc.) I can’t think of a time that I’ve ever regretted doing that. 
- I think you’re imagining this as a more conscious process than it actually is. The reason you need to go out and research this is because these men aren’t going around saying, “yeah, I was going to put my pepsi can in the metal recycling but I was worried my bro would call me gay so I just put it in the general waste.” Instead, sometimes men put pepsi cans in general waste, and sometimes men do things due to social perceptions, and sometimes those social perceptions are that certain things are “unmanly” and working out which things are related to each other is quite hard. - So there’s no paradox here. All people are subject to social pressures, and the vast majority of people make some effort to conform to those pressures in order to fit in and to receive approval from the people they value. Conforming to fit in isn’t “weak” or “insecure”, it’s the nature of being a social animal, and is done instinctively - if you think it’s done “obsessively” then you’re imposing the analytical mindset of someone studying the evidence on the subjects of the research, which is a fundamental error. It’d be like saying someone who subconsciously mirrors the mannerisms of someone they respect is “obsessed” with getting their approval, when they likely don’t realise they’re doing it. - Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek. - They almost certainly haven’t because, again, if you’re “considering” it, it’s not the right concept. The concept that people are trying to avoid is the one that’s labeled “gay” by their peers, which is really more of a gender thing than a sexuality thing; “what are you, gay?” isn’t a question about someone’s sexuality, it’s a suggestion that someone is not conforming to the gender role expected of them. You can’t successfully challenge that by saying “ackshually gay people can be v strong and they forget to put the pepsi can in the correct bin far more often than you might imagine.” They’ll just reply with, “OK bro sounds pretty gay,” because you didn’t challenge them on what they meant, only on what you thought they meant. - The challenge has to be more along the lines of creating a better awareness of societal expectations, tolerance of people who don’t conform to them, and building up positive associations between behaviours we want to promote and conforming things people already value, to help them see things in a new light. 
- I am convinced that there is legitimately a genetic cognitive deficit which makes people think this way, because it is just so obvious and transparent to me that it can’t be an accident. 
- Yeah, in the 1950s you were a big tough guy if you wore all leather and had tattoos. - Now you might be a tough biker dude, sure, or you might be a power bottom with a kink. 
 
- The only reason for a man to be so concerned about another man’s sexuality, is they want to be a part of it. - Exactly 
 
- I’ll wear a pink tutu to the store if I so decide. I’m a man, I don’t care how I’m perceived. 
- Straight men then: No matter what I do, I still hate the idea of sucking another man’s dick! - Straight men now: If I clean my ass too much I may want to suck another man’s dick. 











