• nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    21 days ago

    Wouldn’t be surprised if you popped it open to disconnect the screen, the cooler would stop working.

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    To that I say, why in the hell would you buy a smart fridge in the first place? That’s on you for buying something that stupid.

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      it will become like many appliances… You want a dumb tv? Possible, but it will cost you more than a smart one. You want a dumb fridge? Fine, but soon it will cost you more than a ‘smart’ one you can’t even turn on without making an account somewhere and registering your email and phone

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      Then connect to the internet? But I think saw on YouTube that they can brick your fridge if you do anything to stop getting ads.

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      In theory a smart fridge could be useful.

      If it automatically scanned everything you put inside, it could tell you what ingredients you had if you were planning a recipe. If you were at the store you could know what to buy. It could warn you before something reached its expiry date, or remind you what leftovers were still uneaten. Depending on how much you trusted it, it could learn what you always buy, and add them to your shopping list when you were running low, or even actually order them.

      In theory this could reduce food spoilage and wastage, and could save you money in the long term. It requires trust though. Samsung is obviously mistreating users by showing them ads. But, it could be much worse. The fridge could order food that the user didn’t need, or if it ordered food Samsung could strike a deal with one company and always prefer their brands even when there were cheaper options. And, of course, Samsung could sell your buying habits to Google and Meta who would use it to more effectively target you with ads. Or, Samsung could cut a deal with insurance companies to tell them which users had unhealthy eating habits so the insurance company could deny coverage or hike rates.

      The big issue here is section 1201 of the DMCA. If that didn’t exist, someone could open up a business installing a new, custom, privacy-centric OS on people’s fridges. But, with section 1201 in place, that’s illegal and you could be thrown in jail for performing that service. Even outside the US laws like that exist because the US insisted on them on condition that otherwise the US would force those countries to pay high tariffs. Of course, now the US is jacking up tariffs regardless. I have no idea why no country has yet repealed their equivalent of section 1201. Whichever country does it first will have a huge advantage.

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      21 days ago

      There was a reddit legal advice post recently with that premise. Poster’s sister was a schizophrenic named Carol, who checked herself into an inpatient mental facility, after seeing this ad on a smart fridge, and thinking her treatment was failing and she was slipping into another episode.

      Brother was wondering if they had grounds to sue over treatment costs.

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      I get the vibe that they wanted to use Karen, but realized alienating and insulting their users just for complaining about the ads was a bit too far. (Apple and Samsung can just rot in a ditch)

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          Didn’t know.

          It still does (at least to me) look like they formatted it to low-key insult the people complaining about the advent of ads on appliances.

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            “we’re sorry if we upset you, Carol” is an unsettling line used to show premise at the beginning of the show.

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      All thanks to John Advertising.

      We know because that asshole told everyone about it and his services.

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    I remember when fridges with screens were first becoming a thing, and one way they tried to sell them was the convenience of being able to leave notes, shopping lists, photos, etc… for other members of the family. And even back then, before the advertising apocalypse, I remember thinking, what in the actual fuck makes this 1000 dollar feature any more useful than a 20 dollar magnetic white board and a dry erase marker?

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        Speaking of enshitification, who wants to bet that the calendar app doesn’t support an open standard like CalDAV?

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          I’ll not take that bet. Would you like to bet it’s not in the pre-sale spec sheet, so you only find out after you buy?

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      Because you must consooooooooom. Don’t think, just spend. See shiny “useful” feature, open wallet.

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        It’s depressing to notice just how much pop culture from teh 80s onward was trying to warn us about this coming shittorm. It’s like, as soon as Reaganomics came on the scene, there were those who immediately saw it for what it was and started fighting. (Punk Rock, Literature, Movies, etc…) and it wasn’t enough. No one paid any attention and we are now where we are because as a culture we got sucked into chasing more shiny shit at the expense of our own good.

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      I actually think a multipurpose digital screen could be quite useful and fun on a refrigerator, not needed or necessary at all but I think in a less enshittified timeline an open source version of this, possibly even an e-ink screen, could actually be nice. It would make far more sense as a whiteboard type object that you attach to your refrigerator though and obviously this entire concept is predatory on so many levels it is mindboggling… but the idea of having a sort of communal digital screen on a refrigerator isn’t a bad idea itself I don’t think as hard as it is to imagine a reality where an appliance like this was designed in good faith.

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        100%. It’s a matter of where does the technology stop being about “useful for us” and starts being “useful for them”.

        A digital whiteboard would be a good feature (not ‘necessary’, but cool). It’s when they decide it needs to be connected to the internet that it becomes “is this technology serving us…or serving them” that’s the problem.

        I’m not anti-tech at all. Quite the opposite. But I remember the mid-2000s when all of this tech was getting off the ground and it was being innovated and invented for OUR benefit, not for the corporations. That’s when this kind of stuff was fun.

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      And the ultimate outcome of that was, at one point Google enacted some kind of API change which necessitated Samsung to push out an update to remain compatible, otherwise all of your Google enabled features such as the calendar syncing, email, etc. would stop working. Samsung claimed to be developing a patch for this, and ultimately pushed out an update to… only some of their models. For the others, their response was literally just, “We recommend you buy a newer refrigerator.”

      Yes, this actually happened.

      But since that was going on for ten years ago now, information about it on the Internet is a trifle difficult to find because the search results have largely been overshadowed by Samsung’s more recent smart fridge fuckup. Grand.

      Never buy a Samsung appliance.

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        I did a little “is shit rotting in your fridge?, also inventory” thing for senior design. It was a cursed project for a variety of reasons, but even what we did was a stretch in terms of utility.

        If only we had known that the girl that came up with the idea was actively detrimental to everything she was even adjacent to

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          There’s a super easy way to find out the answer to that question that does not require a screen… it’s incredibly innovative and kind of magic though, so I understand it’s not everyone’s first thought.

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      I keep racking my brain on this one. Unless it’s doing advanced things like automatically tracking fridge inventory and helping build shopping lists, there’s literally no point. Analog controls work fine, even for fancier fridges with integrated ice makers.

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      I never understood why anyone would buy one in the first place. I like home automation where it makes sense (like having some of my bedroom lights and my coffee maker tied to my phone alarm in the morning) but why would anyone ever tie their fridge to the internet?

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        In theory it would be cool to track inventory automatically for restocking, and you could have an app where owner can pay things to the fridge for the rest of the family to see.

        In practice nobody would use that app, whiteboards are more fun, and it would never be able to tell what’s in containers of leftovers.

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        I never understood why anyone would buy one in the first place.

        Because fucking idiots buy anything with a screen, over anything with a slightly smaller screen.

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        I might put some zigbee door sensors on my fridge so I can get an alert when it’s left open. My 3yo has learned to open the freezer and while it does make a noise, so do a lot of things in my house so I might not notice straight away. Maybe an internal temperature sensor as well? Ok, now you’ve got me thinking, imma turn my fridge into a T1000 but at least it won’t try and sell me anything.

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        I only like home automation in the sense of “light goes on if something moves” because that works offline.

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          I’m definitely with you on that. I won’t buy any smart devices that require internet connections these days. And when looking to automate things, I’m much more likely to be buying a dumb device and a smart plug, rather than a smart device. That way I can still manually use the device if and when the automation side fails somewhere along the line.

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        or a smart oven, someone that would buy a smart fridge would buy smart appliances. there was a post on reddit where someone complained about thier smart oven not working because it cant connect to thier internet.

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        if they return it, or trying to scrap it, the customer would have to admit to themselves they bought an overpriced FRIDGE that couldve cost less than a thousand. its like the smart beds that malfunctioned a while ago when aws went down.

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      …To the manufacturer. The retailer’s not going to take it back, and even if you did manage to bully them into taking it somehow that’s still allowing the retailer to shield the manufacturer (i.e. Samsung) from the consequences of their actions. And consequences are what Samsung needs to see over this.

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    I still don’t understand any benefit from having a screen on my fridge… but now I hate them, thanks Samsung

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      I just find it astonishing that Samsung still makes appliances… Considering how awful they are at doing it, and how much money they have to lose for the dozen+ warranty repair visits they inevitably have before ultimately refunding the device.

      Maybe thats why they have screens, So their appliance division can finally turn profit by advertising you until their device dies

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        I think their appliances are a lot like the rest of their tech. If you get a good one it’s solid for years and years, but God help you if you get a shitty one because their customer service is garbage.

        Also idk what crack or other drug their engineer was on that designed the ice box in my freezer but it literally is made in a way that constantly causes problems with ice build up and not being able to dispense ice because of it.

        But I will say all the rest of my Samsung appliances and even the fridge aside from that ice box bullshit have been going strong.

        I think they also have crap quality control, it reminds me a lot of anything Alienware I’ve owned. Still using a mouse from 15 years ago but also had a keyboard from them die right around the one year mark and it was impossible to get any help from their support.

        While I’m ranting huge shout out to turtle beach who’s customer support and care was exceptional. My dog chewed through my headset wires and they shipped me a new one no cost.

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          i’unno, I just know that every person I’ve ever known that bought a samsung device that was not a phone, they ended up fighting through multiple warranty repairs and service visits before inevitably getting a refund.

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            That sucks. Yeah, fighting is the keyword there.

            I mean, I’ll put it this way, I wouldn’t recommend Samsung appliances and won’t buy them again in the future but I have not found any major problems with mine five years on (save the fridge).

            I agree though that there are enough bullshit problems that pop up and having a severe lack of good customer service is a combo that’s steering me away from Samsung. However, they are ubiquitous for a reason.

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      I don’t like anything on the fridge door including water and ice dispensers. Love the water dispensers inside the fridge

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      Being able to see the contents without the inefficiency of opening the door or having the problems of a translucent door or doing admin work could be cool. But now I hate them too. So glad we have no “connected” kitchen gear yet except Tasmota switch and power monitoring sockets.

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        I would go on a killing spree if this happened I already have an irrational hatred of advertisements outside irl. Often think about somehow hacking the digital ones and placing my own messages.

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          You’re more sophisticated than I am. I only haven’t thrown bricks at the billboards in my bus stop because I don’t feel like going to jail over crimes against public property

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            The good news is that most billboards are actually private property. The bad news is that you will still probably go to jail if you throw a brick at it

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      I’m reading a book where they mention “Ambience” systems… basically nanobots floating in the air everywhere so you can just ask something and literally hear voices with the answer or suddenly see images floating in front of your face.

      Imagine that tech in this stupid timeline…

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    Well yeah, it’s a fridge with a spacious screen and an Internet connection in the 2020s. Of course they’d capitalize on all that advertising real-estate. And of course they’d wait until after people have had them for a while. They’re unsurprisingly shameless.

    I’d be curious to know what kind of data it’s collecting to optimize those ads.

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    This was always the goal when they started adding screens. Screens should always be viewed as ad delivery mechanisms especially if internet connected. That goes triple for devices that absolutely don’t need a screen. Like a fucking fridge. They will slow boil the process at first. But they’ll do it.

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    I would be so pissed if I bought one of these. I’d probably smash the screen in rage.

    I knew this would happen though.

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      I’d look for a way to unplug the screen or something first. But then I’d probably find out they used some “clever” design to make me not be able to do that, and THEN I’d smash the screen.

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    The absolute irony. Yeah, this advert is trying to be a reference to what’s happening in the series, as this is exactly what the main character is experiencing.

    But it creeped out and distressed the character into a mental breakdown. Yes, let’s emulate that as a tongue-in-cheek fridge advertisement.

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      For someone who rolled up every psychiatrist, psychologist, and social worker on earth into their head they don’t seem to know how to handle someone experiencing grief/ptsd very well.

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        Someone on the Pluribus subreddit suggested that certain quirks of the collective consciousness comes from how it needs to stay functional despite a vast array of minds that are individually quite different, and how those different personalities and experiences need to be merged together somehow.

        There are empathetic people and completely obtuse people inside the the consciousness, highly intelligent people and those with regressive mental disorders, or more importantly; abusers and abuse victims.

        In order to keep cohesion, they literally cannot deal with negative emotions. Imagine an abuser and their abuse victim merging into a single consciousness. How would they even function?

        They wouldn’t.

        So whenever the collective consciousness is forced to deal with negative emotions, it goes into a seizure.

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          I’m not sure I’m convinced. They don’t seem to be struggling with consensus on any other matters, so that kind of implies they’re just one single consciousness rather than a gestalt of conflicting ones. I don’t think the individuals are still in there, or they’re so completely subsumed they might as well be gone.

          As for their vulnerability to emotional outbursts I’m betting that whatever happened with the immune survivors has made them into transmitters but not receivers for whatever psychic frequency the collective operates on. Which is why they cannot disobey or lie to her about anything except their “biological imperatives” (and even then only passively) and cannot handle her negative emotions since it disrupts the positive emotions they’re using to keep everyone’s consciousnesses subdued.

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    Why on earth would anyone buy this garbage? The only advanced feature I’d like would be a crushed ice dispenser.

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      My guess is to “digitalize” the sticky notes that people put on fridges. Its ment to be a billboard for the famially unit to itself! Advertizers getting inbetween and editing your note to selfs is gross!

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    FYI there is a setting to disable ads. Doesn’t excuse them for introducing ads in the first place, but at least it’s a solvable problem (for now).

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      If we’re here to solve it, another solution is not to connect it to your network.

      I don’t know why someone would want the internet on their fridge.

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        What else am I going to use to play Roblox when mom takes away my iPad, computer, tv, Switch, phone, Apple Watch, PlayStation, Xbox, Occulus, and car infotainment system? The dishwasher?

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      Let me guess, it’s opt out?

      I think it’s interesting where we are reaching an inflection point with technology where I pity the bs the next generation is gonna have to put up with this shit when the stockpile of old tech without this bs is gone