I’ve been a tomboy from a young age. My friends have always been guys, and I developed a dislike for being around other girls around age 10-11 because the people who bullied me were all girls.

When I was a teenager, I kept hearing that girls and women supposedly have a strong “fishy” smell. I know it’s a meme, but I’d seen and read enough firsthand stories that it stuck with me. I even came across accounts from gay men who said that every woman they knew smelled that way, and that it influenced their attraction to men.

In my case, I seem to be an exception. There’s no fishy smell on myself, just normal skin or sweat when I’m active, or at night when I’m due to shower. But that actually made me even more uncomfortable around groups of girls and women, because I really hate the smell of fish or seafood in general, and if there’s a lot of women in a room, that smell lingers even after they’ve left.

Sometimes I feel embarrassed, because people see me, see that I’m female, and I worry they automatically assume I’ve got a rotting crab factory somewhere.

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    Aight, I get that OP is what you might call a repeat offender when it comes to posting things over and over. But the issue is still a significant one.

    So, anyone scrolling through the responses here so far is going to see two main things said.

    One, that it’s hygiene, and/or that it’s an “infection” (though that term isn’t fully accurate).

    There’s more to the story than that.

    Talking specifically about the “fishy” odor, not any of the others possible on human genitals (because it isn’t just women that can have that particular odor), hygiene isn’t usually the driving factor. It’s typically going to be an imbalance in the microbiome of the genitals, particularly the vaginal canal, or the presence of an unfamiliar microbe.

    Trichomoniasis, a condition caused by an invading protozoan, is usually going to be the cause of a strong, unpleasant rotten-fishy type of smell. It’s also got other symptoms, but that’s not the thrust of this. But it is absolutely not a hygiene issue. Doesn’t matter what kind of routine you have, it isn’t going to prevent it.

    The less pungent “fishy” smells tend to be more about the usual assortment of microbes we all have on us at all times being disturbed enough that one or another is outcompeting the others. Bacterial vaginosis is what that’s called. It isn’t so much an infection as it is something going wacky. Now, this can be triggered by bacteria from a foreign source getting into the vagina, or even just onto the vagina in enough numbers that it throws things out of equilibrium. This may or may not be a result of sexual activity.

    Again though, hygiene isn’t a primary factor. If anything, people going nuts over washing or using shitty products is more likely to cause problems than just not bathing. You start screwing up the Ph of the genitals, and germs throw a rave. Lack of bathing doesn’t tend to cause short term trouble, and even once enough oil and dead skin builds up to grow colonies in abundance, doesn’t tend to get fishy as much as that cheesy, funky, slightly rotten smell. And, even then, if everything stays balanced, you might not have any excess odor, it’s just that it’s possible.

    If a person is using conservative methods with their genitals, isn’t fighting an active infection, and also isn’t doing a lot of crazy shit, they can still have what might get called fishy, but really isn’t what people think of. Our slime, be it boogers in our noses, rectal mucosa, vaginal fluids, or whatever tend to have a sort of meaty undertone. That protein smell is also kinda what fresh fish smells like if the fish isn’t very oily. Think something like bream, maybe catfish, rather than tuna. That’s just always there, underneath whatever personal variances there might be.

    However, some personal variances do run closer to something like salmon or mahimahi. It isn’t going to be super strong in most cases, though you do run into it occasionally. But it isn’t an unpleasant scent, just very “meaty”.

    Also, I want to repeat that it isn’t only vaginas an vulvae that carry these smells. Penises definitely can smell fishy. Don’t forget that parts of the penis are mucous membranes too, so they’ll produce the same basic range of aromas.


    Since it often comes up, there are right and wrong ways to wash your junk. There are also ways that aren’t necessarily wrong, but will give outcomes that aren’t really desirable either.

    The current best practices are the same ones I used for twenty years while washing other people’s junk. I look them up any time I talk about this subject because there’s always one asshole (at least) that wants to claim it’s bullshit. But I was responsible for the skin health, including genital health, of hundreds of men and women, and it was a source of great pride that my patients never stank. If you factor in pediatrics cases, and cases where I wasn’t a long term caregiver (subbing in for a weekend or whatever), that number gets into the thousand + range far enough I can’t keep track.

    There is the caveat that some medical issues may require a change to general best practices. If that’s the case for anyone, consult whatever doctor/provider is guiding your care for your individual needs, this is all general purpose.

    So, those best practices are to use no soap, minimum abrasion, and ideally only warm water (not hot). You don’t need a washcloth, but definitely avoid anything that feels scratchy. Your bare hands and warm, running water are all it takes, period. Yes, even during one’s period. Anything else is to satisfy ones mind, not cleanse the genitals, and that’s okay if that’s what you want.

    But soap strips oils more than is ideal for genitals, and it dries out mucous membranes. This is a recipe for bacteria to set up a factory and go crazy. It is entirely possible to kick off a bacterial vaginosis issue from over zealous bathing, especially when soaps not well designed for genitals are used. There are soaps on the market that are designed to gently cleanse genitals.

    The problem is figuring out which of those that claim to do the job right actually do. Most of the time, if in doubt, go to a medical supplies place and see what kind of perineal care products there are, compare ingredients with whatever you’re wanting to buy that is available in a regular store, and be prepared to experiment with what does and doesn’t help your skin.

    The other big part is to rinse well and dry thoroughly. A lot of skin issues start with moisture hanging around. Most of the time, you can go out, get sweaty as hell, and not bathe, and still have zero issues if you dry yourself well along the way. Jock itch, as an example, doesn’t come from being sweaty, it comes from staying damp. You can’t always help that while out in the world, but you definitely can after your shower. If you’re time crunched, a blow dryer on a warm or cool setting can get the job done.

    I personally do use soap on occasion, if I’ve been doing something grimy enough that it’s gotten everywhere. So it doesn’t have to be fanatical. But overall, the less you fuck with your genitals’ balance with soaps, scents, or anything else, the less trouble you’ll have with unpleasant odors.

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    Sometimes I feel embarrassed, because people see me, see that I’m female, and I worry they automatically assume I’ve got a rotting crab factory somewhere.

    In my experience, if they do that, they’re misogynists anyway. It’s kind of a ploy that people only cite in a desperate last ditch attempt to feel superior to women; I didn’t know about it until an insecure misogynist i knew started to go on about it all the time. This is because it’s something that only really arises when you’re close to a womans genitals - i know there’s some fantastical stories suggesting otherwise but bear in mind they might be reddit creative writing.

    I mean, what you describe in that quoted section is literally misogynistic profiling, so believe me you want those people to stay away.

    I know someone in my own life who does have some (different)) Body Odour problems, some things she could do are get exercise at least every 3 days, clean her room more, eat more healthily, get up earlier and not bedrot. (I’m trying to help them, it’s also a new problem and I don’t want to push it too much.)

    But how does this anecdote help you? Well, as long as you’re leaving your own room and home often - ideally spending time breathing outside air - then I think you’ll be able to pick up on any bad smells from your own body or clothes. If not, then relax.

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    Your gay friends were having a chuckle. Women don’t smell like fish from any appreciable distance unless there’s a serious hygiene issue. And then it’s more like regular BO with a bit of a twang.

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    I think you’ve already spent more emotional energy on this concept than anyone should.

    I highly doubt that anyone is thinking about that at all during normal interactions.

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      Excuse the pun but something certainly seems fishy about this post. Surely at some point in their life, OP would have been in a room with women and discovered this wasnt true.

      They also keep talking about how this is something they’ve heard and read about but then later say they’ve had to leave the room when a lot of women are around because of the smell lingering.

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    Some people with vaginas have very poor hygiene habits, and can develop an unflattering smell down south. That being said, you typically need to be very close to the source of that smell before you would be aware of it.

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    Bruh - I’m tomboy, was raised to out-compete other boys, and am gay as can be.

    The only time there’s ever been a fishy smell that’s been noticable above clothing was from someone with an infection, which is usually caused by poor hygiene. Sometimes that smell can linger, especially in a washroom if their bits have been exposed.

    The only other thing I can think of is if someone has been menstruating into a pad that’s overdue for a change? Blood and the whole mucus and others that come from a woman can give a pretty horrible scent. But that’s gotta be so rare, and again, usually coincides with poor hygiene practices.

    Everyone has a different scent (and taste), but it’s so rare (unless you’re between another’s legs) that you’ll smell it. Those jokes are in poor taste just like small dick jokes are. Men are just as capable of smelling awful down there, too. No one gender is particularly prone to stank more than the other.

    So if you have at least okay hygiene practices and you’re not trying to paint the walls with your vagina, you’re fine.

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    I have never met a woman who smells like fish, if you’re worried about body odor get an antibacterial body wash, you’ll be fine

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    Honestly this sounds like mental illness in the person perceiving these smells, maybe with a little bit of OCD.

    In all seriousness I suggest that you speak with a doctor about this.

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      Second this. If this post is not a troll one - then thus post screaming for help.
      Too many things, imaginary smells, social pressure of jokes and disassociation of “I’m not like the other girls”.
      You can be girl or boy or whatever in between, or none of those - but you are no more special than all the humans around you. Not one bit.
      Therapy, education and meditation needed.

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        Well when you put it that convincingly, assuming women’s vaginal odor is supernaturally pronounced and something everyone you meet is unrealistically preoccupied with and disgusted by – a belief plausibly tied into childhood trauma – doesn’t sound like body dysmorphia at all.

        I’ll put up the DSM-V’s criteria here which are similar to the ICD-11’s.

        I don’t see anything else better describing this ©*, and it evidently causes significant distress (B), because a) they’re saying it does, and b) this mindset would obviously be highly distressing.

        (A) is slightly complicated by the fact that, in this paranoia, she thinks she’s the exception among women. It’s still a deeply negative, unhealthy preoccupation with a body part that she thinks she’s constantly judged by others for but in reality probably never has been; I think any psychologist would recognize this as a minor variation on typical BDD.

        * There might be comorbid gender dysphoria, but that doesn’t fully explain this specific paranoia.

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    It all comes down to personal higiene.

    I’ve been married a couple of times and typically I would always smell when someone was on their period. I regularly smell it at work as well.

    My current wife? Not a single smell, ever. No idea what she would smell like of it’s a bad smell.m, she always smells awesome like herself.

    Then again, she’s latina and as such really good at that sort of thing.

    Just was yourself regularly, not too much, use mild soaps, and figure out what works for your body. Soaps (and even perfumes) work differently on different bodies, so even a perfume may work well on someone but not on you. You gotta trial and error a bit there. Don’t use too much perfumes either.

    My wife rarely uses perfumes, she doesn’t need it

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    You should smell some ripe balls and unwashed, poorly wiped ass. You’d never think about vaginal odor again. The emphasis on ‘fishy’ smell thing always crept out of the most misogynistic people from what I could tell, because it boils women down to their only “useful” feature, rather than concern about their health. “How dare you not keep your snatch in a state that pleases me!” …despite not being asked or invited.

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    I had an odd smell. My mother also kept telling me off because I “didn’t change my underwear.”

    When the pain started when I was a student it turned out I’d had a bad infection for years.

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    It’s probably unusual to feel that way. How much you should worry about it depends on how much you feel like it gets in the way of your life.

    If it makes you feel any better I’ve never smelled anyting like that on a woman with reasonable hygiene standards.

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    Jesus fucking Christ are you back to making fishy pussy posts again? You already posted this same sentiment like 20 times last month.

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      Are you sure? The users post history goes back 2 months and doesn’t show any.

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        Must have changed accounts, I guess. I remember a streak of like 4 or 5 days a few months back where some person was asking a derivation of “is it normal to have a fishy smell down there” on like 3 or 4 different subs every day. I just assumed there’s only one person that’d be on here doing that.