Kim: Aw shit I regret my contract. Maybe I can get out of it by lying. I need tons of lies. I need to lie and bullshit like a madman. I need to spout tons of absolute unhinged bullshit with a straight face.
ChatGPT: This. Is. My. Moment.
Sounds like our government. It sounds like our whole fucking modern society.
Too bad ChatGPT lacks the self-awareness (let alone any actual reasoning skills whatsoever) to appreciate it.
This sort of hilarious act of subversion (pun intended) makes me wonder if the loonies who think it’s sentient are right.
Nah chat GPT is just a verbal mirror, so the idiot puts his complete lack of legal knoweldge in and gets a complete lack of legal knowledge out.
I was against ChatGPT, but now I think it could be useful as a moron honeypot.
Who would have thought that the workers weren’t the real drones?!
Anyone who’s met ceos
We know what “C” stands for in that suite
Watching a CEO get fucked by using AI is orgasmic.
The CEO will be fine at the end of the day.
The workers are going to get fucked, though.
At the moment this is a win for the workers. They should get their full share of the payout, now. The main danger is now their parent company may be hostile to them (or even try to close them) until the parent company CEO gets replaced.
until the parent company CEO gets replaced.
One would hope pulling such a boneheaded move ought to make that happen rather quickly.
Of course, if this CEO has been there for more than a year or 2, he would probably get a golden parachute for more than the value of his fuckup…
Yep as soon as the game is launched, LAYOFFS!!!
Sharing profits with the people who actually did the work is anti-capitalist.
Yeah. These illegal firings happened around 9 months ago. I doubt these guys had the funds to just sit on the sidelines, doing nothing, hoping that the court would rule in their favour. Even if they’re offered their jobs back, it could be that by now they’ve made other commitments.
Even if they’re offered their jobs back, it could be that by now they’ve made other commitments.
Or just don’t want to contribute to an organization that tried to fuck them over in the past. I’d be much more inclined to get a payout and move on with my life. What’s the point of returning to a job and making more money for the people who just tried to get rid of you to save a buck?
With many businesses I’m sure that’s true. But, it might be different when you’re making something artistic. Subnautica has a lot of passionate fans, and it’s a unique kind of game. These guys might really want to finish this game that they poured a lot of themselves into. Maybe not, maybe they just want to move on. But, I think a lot of people who work on games really care about what it is they’re doing.
oh god, sounds like Krafton were already assholes. I bet the put the other 250 in and sell it in pieces.
This is the kind of successful entrepreneur we’re supposed to be looking up to, people.
Holy hell, the fact that those slack messages and that chatbot history ended up in court is mind blowing. I guess we should be grateful that this time, the bad guy and his hamfisted “Project X” got put in the spotlight.
As a brave Ukrainian defender once said, “We are lucky they are so stupid”.
You never go full ChatGPT.
I mean, if this is the way the average CEO is handling ChatGPT, a lot of things start to make sense.
You’d be surprised how many CEOs are absolute morons who have successfully failed their way upwards into the C-suite by simply being agreeable to higher management, and greedy enough to fuck others over.
I naturally assume there’s a distinct lack of humanity and a willingness to act like a psychopath with them.
I think the will to fuck anyone over for more advancement is the biggest factor here.
Yeah, the lack of empathy and selfishness
You misspelled being related to the previous CEO or a good friend of theirs.
Someone straight up getting promoted to CEO from below is a bit more rare. They usually have been a CEO somewhere else before that due to relations.
Im convinced that the CEOs use it to write some emails or brainstorm ideas and suddenly they think it can do everything, so they fire everyone and then everything falls apart because it cant do what they think it can.
I work at a small company of <100 people, and fortunately the CEO is a human that treats his employees like other humans and recognizes that without us, there would be no company anymore. However, all of his emails sound like the most heavily sanitized corpo-marketing-speak. If you were to judge him by his emails alone, you would never guess that. As it turns out, he uses Copilot to draft emails. When I found that out, it made so much more sense.
On a certain level, I get it. I hate writing emails. But the AI slop emails make him seem like a corporate goon and they ultimately dehumanize him to new employees. I don’t know if he realizes how impersonal the AI makes him seem. He probably has become slop-blind from using it too much.
Sorry, only tangentially related. Just kind of ranting here.
If your CEO is genuinely a good person, he would want to know that his emails make him less personable. Maybe you could tell him why the emails do not reflect your in person impression of him, that he actually cares about the employees. The reaction would at least give you good insight into who how he thinks.
Unfortunately, a lot of CEOs have crazy schedules, so they are constantly looking for ways to optimize their time. I think this drive is big reason why they love AI so much, in general.
I wish we weren’t obsessed with optimizing profits no matter the cost in the US.
a corporate goon
I’ve been on Lemmy too long, because this is starting to sound like a double entendre.
. However, all of his emails sound like the most heavily sanitized corpo-marketing-speak.
I know exactly what you’re talking about. I sometimes use AI to help get a 2nd opinion on what I’ve written myself if its for my business, and there’s a lot of personalization and human touch in how I write things, especially when writing a blog post or an email to a customer I’m not entirely sure about.
The AI is good for finding areas that might be a little long, or maybe you say something twice and it isn’t needed, or you’ve made a really long run on sentence… but if you were to just take the AI’s suggestions at face value and use them, it completely de-perosnalizes it and makes it all trash.
I have to give it explicit instructions nowadays not to do that, and how I’m only looking for minor things to touch up.
These greedy morons are getting high off of their own supply
I finally got to read this article and the situation is even better/dumber with more context. I didn’t realize the layering at first.
This CEO used AI to avoid paying human lawyers to help him figure out how to avoid paying human game developers.
This asshole needs to get some kind of “Yo Dawg I heard you like AI” anti-award.
Jail would be nice. Someone shouldn’t be able to drag that many people through that much pain without repercussions beyond having to do the thing they were avoiding to begin with. Banning his stupid ass from running any more companies would be a decent outcome.
hes one of those that fully believe the bs that is AI being hyped.
Krafton did promise to be “AI first” for everything going forward. If you haven’t already blocked the publisher on Steam or other services, do so now.
Good point!
For others doing the same, there’s a little gear icon on the punisher page, with an option " Ignore this creator."
Edit: could also have been on the Publisher page, but I would check both.
I looked up a similar article without a paywall:
“Krafton recently declared itself to be an “AI-first company,” which led Unknown Worlds to issue a statement indicating that Subnautica 2 will not feature generative AI.”
The “AI first” shit is pure gold. I love the instant karma. Why are these CEOs throwing their money, reputation, etc. away on AI? Either they are even stupider than I thought, or the tech bros have some kind of massive blackmail machine they’re using to take over everything and puppet all the CEOs.
Execs in this sort of company are narrative first, facts a distant second. LLMs speak their language, something agreeable that sounds right whether it is or not.
BTW, investors are largely in the same boat, they are investing with having no realistic way to know whether the nice things being said are backed by reality up front. They only know if/when it goes down in a blaze.
Further in gaming, maybe they tank some headliner properties with bad reviews if the mess them up, but it’s possible that most of the ‘sold’ games barely even get played, thanks to Steam hoarding. A lot of businesses can coast on past glory for years and years before things blow up, if at all.
Yes, this is the reason it’s so popular with them. While the baseline ass-kissing of chatGPT makes me vomit, they think it’s the greatest invention in the world and don’t understand how somebody doesn’t love it
Yeah, I don’t get why people like the default tone of those LLMs, they are so grating on me. When I get slop emailed that so greatly amused the person who prompted it, I can’t believe they are eager to share rather than repulsed at how cringey it was.
The LLM will do whatever they tell it to, including making shit up in order to suit the narrative. They’re the ultimate “yes-man” that’s not even human.
Unfortunately for CEO’s, it turns out that yes-men - or yes-machines - aren’t particularly good developers or legal strategists
They’re simply stupider than you thought. They buy into hype so fast without really listening to the experts already on the team.
The “AI first” shit is pure gold
It’s a pitch to investors. There’s dumb money being flung left and right like chimpanzee poop in the zoo
Same thing happened with blockchain to a lesser extent. I remember my old company forcing us to put blockchain in something, anything, so they could add it to the sales pitches.
Yeah I remember some companies getting their stock price spiking because they said blockchain. It was same like with dotcom bubble in 2000s. You renamed your company from dogshitidea to dogshitidea.com and money was flung at you like ape faeces.
Either they are even stupider than I thought, or the tech bros have some kind of massive blackmail machine they’re using to take over everything and puppet all the CEOs.
I think it’s a little of each.
The ones not being blackmailed are desperately trying to look like they’re impactful enough to blackmail.
I know the type. They list themselves exclusively on job search sites for high earners like “Ladders”, they don’t listen to their employees ever because they’re a subhuman resource, they are first in line at every ceremony or circle jerk meeting, but nowhere to be found when actual work needs done, they spent the last few years bringing up how badly they want to go back to the office full time, and they unironically speak in corporatese even on Christmas. They like sports teams because they’re popular and a good segway, not because they care about the team, they view it as their duty to keep the ranks broken down and working hard in fear of their jobs.
Ehhh 404 still has a bit more to say on
I don’t know any CEOs, but I’ve known many business owners in my life and I’ve been one. The majority absolutely despise payroll as their biggest expense. They hate their employees, which will be replaced as soon as technologically and financially possible.
This is why there is a huge push for AI, every one of these greedy bastards would be perfectly fine with replacing every single employee. They see it as an improvement.
We as a society in the USA have gotten businesses backwards and put the cart before the horse, in my opinion. Our goal shouldn’t be “shareholders will get the cream of the crop!”, that road simply leads to a small group of people being fabulously wealthy, they see their employees as a middle man that they would rather eliminate.
We can change how corporations work at any time, but we’ll need to get rid of our government first. They won’t legislate themselves out of generational wealth, it’s a fantasy to think otherwise. Never, ever in the history of Earth has the ruling class decided “hmmm I’m starting to feel guilty about rolling around in a pool full of gold Krugerands maybe this is a little much”
100% accurate. I ran a family owned grocery and the owners never shut up about payroll. As soon as I started managing a department it was “you’re overstaffed” every flipping week. I explained my plan to use the extra hours to have the employees trained on how to make more prepared food instead of buying the premade junk. They complained and complained until the end of the second month when my numbers for prepared food in that single month grossed enough to pay for the extra staff need for over half the year.
They still complained I was overstaffed.
No one is dumber than a rich person, except perhaps the people who are actively being screwed by them and who still believe that having money means the rich person must have earned it.
Thanks for articulating it this way for me. It’s the hypocrisy that gets me, at least in my situation. I reported my boss to the directors. He was (still is) planning to cut a guy from our team, claiming he costs too much. But when I did the math, I found that my boss’ personal expenses on food, gas, phone, vehicle, etc. (with increasingly unaccounted-for amounts) are more than that guy’s pay.
My boss isn’t worried about the financial health of the organization, he’s worried he won’t be able to keep spending it on himself if he has to pay the workers.
I’ve seen “the director” lay off employees on a whim whilst buying a new end table for 30,000 USD. Not a typo, I cut the check.
They’ll take all they can, shareholders will let it go as long as the returns are good. In my opinion, a national minimum wage is stupid, but instead workers should be owners.
The profits shouldn’t all go to a table full of vultures.
If many had their way,they would be perfectly fine with slavery
At my first job, I was told I couldn’t be paid more despite the fact that I was getting the same pay as someone in my position was about 20 years prior. The boss? Massive house in the richest neighbourhood with two elephant statues out front that cost $50k each. He spent his days falling asleep in meetings and generally doing less than nothing. All the department heads were disgustingly rich, everyone else could get fucked.
It’s worth pointing out that the company and CEO in question are South Korean.
Never, ever in the history of Earth has the ruling class decided “hmmm I’m starting to feel guilty about rolling around in a pool full of gold Krugerands maybe this is a little much”
Yeah, reformers have never existed.
Note I said “ruling class” as a whole. Of course there are reformers, madmen, vegetarians, philosophers, and so on sprinkled throughout.
that goes without saying, friend. But, feel free to continue to point out the obvious that everyone knows. It’s fun and not droll at all, I dub thee “captain no fucking shit”
Now, please point out what my goal post was, and how it has been changed IN ANY WAY by your contribution. Go into great detail!
It’s fun and not droll at all, I dub thee “captain no fucking shit”
I want a certificate
It’s in the mail, with your high school diploma
Reformers don’t feel guilty. They’re trying to stave off the inevitable guillotines.
reformers are the exception, they don’t represent the class
Oh well yeah, obviously. Those goalposts are obviously not the target now that they got moved all the way over there, you must be right. /s
When I’m in a “make game unattractive to buyers before it comes out” competition and my opponent is Krafton
I loved Subnautica. I’ve replayed it more than any game I own. I got it for free from Epic (the only way I get games from Epic). I bought it for Switch. I bought Below Zero. The franchise was shaping to be a “here, take my money” deal.
I don’t want Subnautica 2. I mean, I want a Subnautica 2 not Krafton Subnautica 2.
I reserve some blame for the original owners/devs. If they hadn’t sold out, if they had followed more of a Hello Games model, they could’ve coasted indefinitely churning out cool games to loyal fans.
If I have to use AI to argue my case in court, it is because I don’t have enough money to hire a lawyer. You would think a CEO would understand their position in life.
This indicates that the CEO in question actually misunderstood their lawyer’s position in life. AI-pushers really do think that all workers are expendable. They have absolutely drunk the Flavour-Aid on all of this.
They probably don’t even see this as an “oopsie”, just an argument to throw even more resources at the AI, because they’re SO CLOSE to never having to pay a human for work ever again.
Clearly this CEO only wants to deal with “yes” men etc. If you don’t agree with him then he’ll find somebody else who will.
But, if you’re a CEO, and lawyer tells you, “no, the contract is solid. Honor it,” what are you to do? Why, ask an agreeable LLM for an answer that conforms to your world view because, obviously, you’re right because you’re the CEO.
The stupidest thing is that ChatGPT originally told him to pay them too. He had to get creative with the prompts in order to get actionable suggestions.
Amazing how much they will try to bend reality to their conception rather than the other way around. It’s a mental illness
Or you are too cheap and stupid to pay a lawyer….
In this case even dumber than that: he paid a lawyer (or rather, the company did) then chose to ignore their advice and go with ChatGPT instead.
THAT is what happened?! Wow, that is hilarious!
The legal battle is ongoing, but Kim looks set to lose.
I am SO curious what will happen here and what the final verdict will be. Trying to cheat someone out of 250 million has to result in some enormous fine at least right?
We can only hope. Wouldn’t be surprised if it follows the age-old “keep appealing to a higher court until you reach dependable corruption” model.
This is so dumb. I never believed the hype around CEOs, but I still thought they needed to have something, anything, to reach their position.
But the artificial dumbness time really reveals how many of them had simply dumb luck and no morals. And that was apparently enough for all of human history because their underlings protected them from acting too stupid. And now they think they don’t need those underlings anymore. Well, at least I can laugh myself to death before the climate wars.
The “no morals” part is their main qualifier
simply being an asshole and not caring about how your actions affect other people can get you surprisingly far in life
just imagine all the time that you save if you never return your shopping cart, or park anywhere you want, or butt to the front of lines
Be tall, handsome, good hair, a deep voice, and exude confidence, and you’re halfway there. Looking like a CEO is half the battle.
What a fucking piece of shit.
I have to admit, every time a story like this comes out, it makes me distrust any other large company all the more. When this whole thing first started, I already expected the publisher to be lying. Looks like the pattern holds true!
