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    The last thing they said. I’ll never have to say “What?” 4 times in a row again.

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      Monkey paw’s finger curls: You can see them. They’re EVERYWHERE. People you thought you knew and loved have numbers greater than zero over their head. Despite your horror, you try to make use of the power to try to bring them to justice. No one believes you. You have the Cassandra’s curse of the status quo. ‘Steve? What are you talking about? He’d never do anything like that. Butter wouldn’t melt. You should probably shut your mouth before we get offended about what you said about our friend and kick the shit out of you. Know what I mean?’ You watch the news and see everyone who has a position of power over you and your loved ones has a non-zero number. You try to escape into fictional media but your favorite actors are non-zeroes, the author pictures in your favorite books show non-zeroes, the album sleeves of your favorite bands show non-zeroes.

      Knowledge can be a burden.

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        Then as you live in horror and disgust, you see people’s numbers rise day after day, unable to prove to others their horrendous crimes.

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          And then you befriend a stranger on the internet. You are nervous at first but you can’t see them, so you can imagine their number is zero. You hit it off. They’re amazing. Funny. Sweet. Kind. Hardworking. The relationship turns into a distant romance. Then you finally meet. You had no idea the number could go that high.

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            Or… you meet up and are flabbergasted by their ZERO. You could not be happier. You get extremely close, get married, have a child together… twins! You’re out overnight with friends, and your partner’s friend comes to visit. You return the next day to find the kids sleeping in and your beloved and their friend having a nice brunch, laughing with each other gleefully with the number two over each of their heads.

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            Or x2

            You meet up for the first time in real life, and they do not have a number. How could this be? EVERYONE has a number, thank the gods they’re almost always zero! You’re immediately suspicious of their intentions and past actions. They’re not acting anything like they did online… they’re actually acting really fuckin weird, which greatly discomforts you.

            You grapple with this internal conundrum, but you had failed to notice something crucial: The instant you saw each other, their eyes so briefly darted up, looking above your head.

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      Jeeeesus Christ! I was thinking like “farts per day” or “no-blinker lane change count”. You’re going straight to the show.

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      What’s the point though? We already know the worst offenders without this special power and not a fucking thing is being done about it.

      Edit: I misunderstood the question. I thought it was for everyone to be able to see it. Yeah, this would be a good one to have to know who to avoid…

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    First name.

    “Hey Janine, can you move your cart out of the way, thanks, gonna get by here and go get some ice cream sandwiches.”

    “Excuse me, Ravi, trying to get off the train, one moment, thanks.”

    “Oh hey, you’re a Tanis too, just like me, neat!”

    This will absolutely weird everyone out.

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      Similar to the other reply, it’s a good idea and seemingly pragmatic, but we could spend a decade arguing over the pedantry of what qualifies as a lie and still not be done.

      Truth is tricky

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        How about any statement told with the intent of the recipient believing something about the world that the speaker knows to not be true

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          That’s a very good angle, honing in on exactly the problem of lying.

          “Intent” could get just as tricky. With all the various forms of psychosis, delusion, etc. it’d be tough to say whether someone “meant” to do something. (It’s trickier than we’d usually like to admit even for a typical person.)

          The same kind of problems exist around whether the speaker “knows” something to be false.

          Then there’s the problem of fiction. Bedtime stories, campfire stories…

          And not exactly a technical problem, but what about a doctor who knowingly oversimplifies or otherwise intentionally twists his words in an attempt to get the patient to manage their condition optimally? Parents who lie about how something works to help their kids understand something or behave safely? Teachers who oversimplify physics lessons to present it in a way their students can grasp for now. Not exactly a technical problem maybe, but would we want “noble lies” to affect the counter? This is a little off track, just occurred to me and felt like writing it out 🤷‍♂️

          This one doesn’t pose a direct problem really but maybe helps me get to my point: what if people who rode a train moving at relativistic speeds when lightning struck both ends talk with someone who was watching from outside about when the lightning struck? Truth is tricky…

          But making it, “how often did they attempt to intentionally deceive” as you suggested is a great approach imho. Maybe almost realistic. There’s probably some biological indicators of that right? … for non-psychopaths

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        “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.

        Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”

        “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him.

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    Is “how much I would like them on a scale from 0 to 10 (with a resolution of like 0.01) if I got to know them at a deep level” allowed? Or is that cheating?

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    % of how genuine they are with me, easy to figure out who’s worth the time and who isn’t.

    Could be a problem in a relationship tho. I take it back, just the cumulative numbers of fart in a lifetime.

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      The “genuineness” statistic sounds like the sort of thing that would gradually drive me insane.

      I’d probably end up staring into the mirror and seeing an abysmally low number for myself.

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        And you find the one person who’s 100%, but actually they’re a dick. It seems like they’d be a dick.

        Like, I’d be unusually high, but I still purposely don’t say certain things.

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          Ive been kinda obsessed with truth my whole life and I recognize the more I do not speak truth the less I can recognize what it. It is problematic for sure. Its good we can choose not to speak.

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      Add location too, otherwise that’s just cruel.

      “You’re going to die in 2 days!”

      “Oh god, how? Where? Why?”

      “No idea, get fucked scrub!”

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      Having kids makes this a burden IMO. It would be very difficult to know that any of my kids would die before me let alone the exact time

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        The way it works doesn’t even involve compatibility, so much. It’s just how much you’ve conversed over time without incident, like monkeys grooming each other.

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    An icon to indicate if they washed their hands after the last time they used the bathroom.

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    all the others seem a lot more invasive, so I’ll go with their pronouns/gender so I never have to ask and be awkward

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    Number of cumulative years they would be imprisoned for, had they been caught and convicted of every single crime they ever committed.

    I’m betting most adults are not at zero.

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      Nobody’s at zero. It’s been said that the average American commits 3 felonies per day. The law is so long that you couldn’t read it in a lifetime. There are more criminalized actions than you can imagine.

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      This wouldn’t impart any useful information in a world where rapist pedophiles get time served and protesters get a life sentence for being adjacent to another crime handing out zines.

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      I feel like this would be a misleading measure. My dad has been self medicating anxiety, adhd, trauma, and potentially autism with pot for about 40 years, in our state an oz is 6 months on first offence. If we only count that on his usual consumption rate, baring any time he’s got extra, tried other things, or the myriad of other dubious things he’s gotten into, he’s lookimg at 1,440 years in jail. If you add anything about quality, growing, having large amounts, that’s going to skyrocket. In comparison, a double homicide nets you 100 points in this hypothetical.

      Put my stoner dad next to a serial pedophile with 10 victims below the age of 12 and my dad looks like a fucking monster.

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        Oh, I’m probably up to 1000 years just for listening to music from the internet.

        Maybe the number should exclude victimless crimes.

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          Nah, it’s more fun to guess if the dude with 1000 years over their head is a serial killer of was in high school during the Napster/Gnutella years

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          Fuck, I didn’t think about that. The only reason I didn’t starve to death in highschool was the money i made torrenting moves and selling bootlegs of new or obscure films and games. I’d make Manson look like rookie numbers…

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      this is going to be of limited use do to wierd laws and going to be vastly different for someone country by country

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        You can’t fix it until you can measure it.

        If everyone knew this number about everybody, a lot of stupid laws would change overnight.

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          This works only if all laws are correct. Otherwise you end up seeing “100 years” for copyright infringement. In the world you imagined, who cares why they have 100 years on em? The never-can-be-bad law is always correct, and a 100 year sentence is always just and good. Otherwise who gives a fuck?

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      I’ve been in possession of weed enough times that my number would probably be higher than someone who murdered a couple of people but never had weed on them.

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      or maybe between 0 and 1. that way it would be easier to see if the topic that I’ve decided is super interesting and won’t shut up about is interesting to the to the other person as well. If I start seeing the number dropping quickly, time to change topics or just walk away.

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        Ugh, the scoremaxing techniques salespeople would develop to be able to game that number in real-time without your ability to obscure your actual interest.