Honestly, linux for me (yes I know where I am). Love the software and options, but holy shit is the fanbase incredibly opinionated and full of condescension about it. Also they don’t know how to shut the fuck up about it, and constantly bring it up where it doesn’t belong. Like its a personality trait to them or something.
For many, it is. Autism, hyperfixation, and passion are needed to do something like create an OS from scratch, pick and choose any of the 3 to then use it in an incomplete state.
Id argue we’re finally at the point where you actually dont need any of those, just a willingness to learn and adapt
it’s a tool for a job for me.
to them, it’s a religion.
Star Wars. It’s not perfect, and sometimes bad, but avoiding the fanbase gives me peace.
No one hates star wars / Trek like star wars / Trek fans.
It’s not easy, but you can like them both and still dislike the fans.
It’s the rule of 3! For both Star Wars / Trek, I only like 3 movies / series!
Skoolies for me. A few years ago I bought a used school bus and started converting it into a motorhome. I made an account at the main forum (skoolie.net) because there were people there that actually knew useful stuff, primarily about metalworking (which I’d never done before) and the mechanical aspects of bus ownership (which I still don’t know shit about).
Surprisingly (or maybe not) skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers. There are exceptions but they always end up being driven away. The thought of going to one of the annual skoolie gatherings is nightmare fuel for me.
skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers.
Years ago my dad bought an old school bus because he wanted to convert it into a motor home with private bathroom and a garage in the back for his motorcycle for trips to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Apart from the fact that he never got around to doing any work on the bus and eventually gave up and unloaded it on someone, your description would have been completely accurate.
Your dad did the right thing. I got mine 95% done at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars and arthritis basically everywhere, just for the honor of paying $100 a month to park it at a U-haul lot. I know how to weld and rivet now, just as useless as the bus.
all the people i have known in metalwork or maker spacers were all far-left and kept injecting their politics and insecurity about being ‘authentic’ and ‘cool’ into everything. it’s a major turn off.
i have no idea how heating up pieces of metal to merge them together or other stuff like that has anything to do with politics, but people can’t help themselves. Also these spaces in my experience… were all well-off white people desperately trying to ‘signal’ they were not like ‘white people’.
anyways, i take those kinda classes and hobby things at adult education centers and libraries and such… because no politics. a lot older crowd though but a lot less massive insecurity and injection of identity insecurity into everything. turns out the really cool people are the boring uncool ones.
Alloys are intrinsically liberal. Keep metals pure!
There’s so many bands I love and I don’t even have a clue what they look like much less know anything about their fan base
you’re not missing much.
whenever i go to a live show these days i’m like one of 5 people over the age of 30, and everyone else looks like a teenager who is still growing.
That’s fine, I’ve met some really interesting people both much younger and older than myself in this life.
lemmy.world/c/formula1 is small enough that we occasionally acknowledge a race happened.
not interacting with people in general:
I don’t understand what a fanbase is. Probably why I just enjoy stuff and don’t really care about who else likes it though.
In the long long ago, in the before time, when a new manga, or anime became popular it wasn’t long before the fanbase formed. These weren’t your fanbases of today, these were communities to soak up everything there was to their favorite sgow. There was competition and cringe yes, but it had honor, there were boundaries. It was like this for decades.
Then Rick showed us how much he loves Szechuan Sauce and McDonald’s thought Rick and Morty was any other fanbase. They were wrong. Now a fanbase is just another segment of the population which can be marketed to and have wealth extracted. Another thing that can be packaged up into a product or video to maximize how much of your money or attention they get.
We’re Rick and Morty or McDonald’s to blame? No, they were only doing what everyone had been doing for decades. No, the world is different. The shows are different. The whole business is different. We the fans are different. We have to take our favorite thing as far as it will go to get as much as we can, boundaries be damned.
Now I follow the same path you do I…
…don’t really care who else likes it though.
That really did seem like a major cultural turning point, and I was watching it from the outside.
I never saw Ricky and Morty until Season 5, so I missed all of that.
It was so weird to study in STEM and meet other Star Trek fans in the cantina. Now there is something wrong with Wesley Crusher and I’m supposed to hate him and project that on the child actor, too? And when Jeri Ryan is nice enough to come all the way to a European convention, they yell “strip”? (At least they were disgusted as well about the latter, just reported others doing it.)
No thanks, I’ll hang out with decent people.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but that’s probably a good thing for me.
I attempt to only talk about these things with IRL friends. When our opinions disagree, we’re all nice about it. When we agree, it’s really fun to geek out on it together.
Even when we disagree, it can be fun to hear the reasons why. Because we don’t attack each other over personal preferences.
But trying to do that online? Nah. Tis a silly place.
I have a group of friends who have very distant opinions on the types of things we like, and having friendly arguments over these things is one of the highlights of my week.
I daren’t even enter a forum for any of those hobbies online.
I recently discovered that a band I like not only has a subreddit dedicated to hating it, there’s another subreddit dedicated to making fun of the other subreddit. This is in addition to the main subreddit which, can you believe? Is filled with drama over the other two, in addition to gushing over the artist who, quite frankly, is only ok. It’s kinda niche so they get a decent following just by filling in an undeserved market.
But if this artist ran over a nun after robbing a bank, it wouldn’t even make front page news in LA.
That’s the difference with political discourse today. You had an obligation to be nice to people in fear of getting punched. Too many people cower behind keyboards with big opinions today because they know if they acted like that in public they would be hit.
dude, lucky you don’t live where i live because… they act like that in person where i live. and yeah nobody punches them. they encourage them for being ‘brave’. and if you be like ‘yeah maybe it’s not that bad’ they scream in your face.
where i live there really isn’t much of a barrier anymore between keyboard tantrums and real life ones… which is precisely why I don’t go out less and less. at least once a week I have to watch someone have a tantrum or be really nasty to someone else and it’s almost always the same types of comments and reactions as you see on the internet.
it’s incredibly cringe. and nobody pushes back because… other people agree with the shitty awful insane entitled crap people pull.
Like i can’t even go read a book in a cafe anymore without some insane weirdo being all offended at me. I used to do it like on an almost daily basis and nobody ever bothered me other than to maybe ask me if i liked the book… now they come up to me unprompted and tell me how what I’m reading is racist/sexist/evil because it’s… classic lit from the 19th century and I am ‘spreading’ evil by reading these book sin public… it’s strait up ‘evil spirits’ medieval type shit, except I’m the witch.
Where ever you live sounds like a nightmare. So sorry for your struggle.
it’s not a struggle. it’s life.
is traffic a struggle? Is having to diarrhea a struggle? no, it’s just shit you have to deal with.
Well now you sound delusional. I’m happy to live in a part of the country that respects each other.
yeah i’m delusional. i live in Boston where everyone chokes on their own dick about how progressive they are, meanwhile being racist and sexist as fuck in their daily interactions.
it’s well-known fact about this city. everyone has black lives matter signs on their lawns, but if a black man walks by their ring camera they call the cops. black lives only matter to folks here when they actually don’t see any black people…
and if you tell them it’s racist to call the cops on a black dude just minding his business… all the sudden you ‘lack empathy’ or something… always an excuse with rich white/asian people as to why they are the most oppressed by everything/everyone.
I used to have this… then the woke nutbags came along and decided all that mattered about you was your minor disagreements and you were a demonic evil person. I miss those days.
in real life. but i live in a ‘progressive’ city full of people who have very reactionary attitudes. 10 years ago nobody cared about these things, and now it’s like all they razor focus on and they are super presumptive of.
i literally went out to a place last night i used to hang out at with some friends… and the stereotypical woke person came up to me and told me I was ‘being problematic by taking up the corner’ or something, and I was like ‘yeah I’m trying to just do my thing here and not bother anyone’ and then they proceeded to tell me how i had to move because i was making them uncomfortable by doing my own thing and it bothered them. I rolled my eyes and they went away and I just decided to leave because it’s like… I get it you don’t want me to be here because I’m don’t look like you and it upsets you, even if I am literally just chilling and being nice. but since I take care of myself and am comfortable being quiet and chilling, i’m a ‘threat’ now.
and way too many of my old friends have become that person… the ‘concerned’ person who thinks me eating a tuna fish sandwich means I’m now a ‘bad person’. It’s like, why bother interacting with you at all ever? all they live for is being miserable and whiny and blaming other people for their feelings.
yeah that’s FOR SURE the whole story…
yeah it was because I was reading a book about capitalism and not the communist manifesto.
Warhammer/Warhammer 40k
Love the games an the lore but I wouldn’t touch the fandom with a 10 foot pole. Some of the absolute worst degenerates in there…
My experience is 50/50. Half the fandom are smart enough to see the lore is mostly satire meant to be silly exaggeration, the other half has a power fantasy from different, but overlapping backgrounds (misogynist, racist, homophobic, etc).
People that consider the Imperium the good guys.
Lemmy?
Wait… Fuck
I’m interacting with you directly because I’m not the best interactor and I need the practice. Thanks for the reminder.
You interact great dude. You need practice kissing. Now c’m’ere a minute
Chuckled.
Sonic the Hedgehog for me. I love the franchise, but I stay clear of the fandom. So many weird people latch onto Sonic stuff and make it all icky and creepy. I guess that’s what happens when a company like SEGA claims “Everything is canon.”
Also perverts. I was absolutely obsessed with Sonic Archie comics and finding forums as a kid was how I learned about furry porn. Scarred and older, a decade later, saw how cool Sonic Mania was and wanted to interact with others. And there it was again… Pervert shit.
I’ve been mostly obsessed with the comics as well. I built a website just to track all the comics and arrange their covers in proper reading order.
It’s out of date right now (I’m currently working to get it updated, actually), but all the Archie Sonic comics are listed in order. You can check it out here.
Hey this is really cool! It has like a nice retro website vibe!
People like you make the internet awesome!
I at least like that a few pieces of Sonic media lampshade this.
In one episode of Sonic Boom (a show designed to be watched high by adults) he’s kidnapped by an aardvark that’s a rabid fan.
“Oh! N-no, I wasn’t trying to escape, I was just…reading some of this fanfiction! Ooh. Sonamy, spicy!”
“Oh. Yeah, I don’t really even care for it, but it seems requisite for the readers.”
Being fan of the thing, not the fanbase.
I don’t like fan bases at all. They always manage to make things weird that doesn’t need to be weird. Fan fiction is culprit number one. Make your own thing, instead of making someone else’s thing, but worse.
I can enjoy the things i like without needing to flaunt it obnoxiously.
Guitar/Metal, spider-man and Donald Duck comics, Harry potter-books, sports(just sports in general, exceptional achievements are exiting to watch).
Fan fiction is culprit number one. Make your own thing, instead of making someone else’s thing, but worse.
You have to walk before you can run. Like, I eventually made my own thing, but I couldn’t have if I didn’t learn from masters first
Sure. But why publish it for everyone else to suffer?
Because [me] [music] looks pretty cool to play, it just takes three to four people to do it right. I think. I haven’t tested the method with the largest instrument I have played, so until I do I won’t know if it’s three or four.
Normal people do it with either six or eight people and they’re boring.
The older I get the better I am at finding groups of people and fanbases where this doesn’t apply. I’m in a spot with music, cooking, visual arts, science and more both IRL and online that are just nice. And it’s not about lack of different opinions and being in a bubble, I just focus on and stay with people and groups who are nice about it.
Yeah, it’s more about individuals. I think we’ve found a lot of good ones here on Lemmy
