It wasn’t murder. it was a fucking public service. pollination is very bad for the world and his very existence polluted the world.
The only conservative nut bag with good aim. Are we sure Erikkka didn’t pay him to off her husband???
So she could be with J.D.? Hell… maybe J.D. was behind it all, lol
Unlikely, she ain’t no couch.
Cool, it goes to trial then. Maybe his fucked-up wife will testify. That should be quite a show.
Also, this guy deserves max sentence assuming he’s convicted. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend in this case.
The greater of two evils who just decided to eat the lesser
I thought killing Nazis was one of the great American pastimes though? I feel that this was a concrete step towards Making America Great Again.
Killing Nazis was a favorite pastime of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. (Fascism encourages killing one’s own allies to rise through the ranks or to “cull the weak”.)
America just showed up late to massacre Japanese civilians (We killed more with normal bombs than with the nukes.), let most of the actual Japanese war criminals in power go, and then claimed we were the ones that killed the Nazis.
Don’t forget the entire cities we set on fire.
Sometimes I really hate the propaganda machine I grew up in
At least the MAGA fucknut did the sane world a favor. Where is the rifle that matches the bullet?
Yeah… he’s worse than Charlie (as hard as that is to believe)
Wells that’s because he didn’t do it, I saw him at the arcade all day that day. He won a giant teddy bear.
Charlie’s neck just did that. His blood pressure was too high from all the hatred and also his tiny face contributed.
Also the dude who didn’t kill him is a fucking weirdo too.
His face was normal and he had a tiny head that was swollen to be bigger than normal from the pressure. His neck was a weak point that finally succumbed to the pressure. That’s why his neck just did that.
Charlie’s neck exploding was the funniest shit. Douchebag deserved it
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Lol.
No rule against gore on this sub. And it was pretty tame gore and a historical photo. But whatevs. You do you, boo.
Lol. You have jeffw on your mod team. Now it makes more sense.
Kirk died of a fetanyl overdose, Erika gave it to him.
How can there be a murder charge when there was no murder?
Putting down a feral pig is a civic duty.
Don’t insult pigs like that.
I had a conservative friend tell me there’s an entire conspiracy around this. And this guy was basically mentally unstable and convinced to bring the gun to this location.
In reality, Israel installed those pager explosives in his microphone that sent something into his neck. The main argument is that the gun used would have done significantly more damage.
Yeah Candace Owens is big on this stuff. It’s all about converting the antisemitism-curious leftists into antisemitic fascists.
Well, Charlie Kirk did say things against Israel in his final days. It seems like he was questioning things, if you look deeper.
It’s working on The Young Turks.
I don’t consider most conservative hunters and shooters to actually be very skilled or knowledgeable. This is based very heavily on a lot of experience and interactions. A human neck bone will definitely stop a 30-06. It might be a flesh sack of spine gravel, but having no explosion of gore is not a surprise.
It was the most effective way to get him to shut up though. Really cute that it happened after he got dog walked so publicly by the Cambridge student.
It’s the most effective way to get all MAGA trash to shut up. Take notes. Only one thing ever stopped Nazis.
Sometimes bullets do really weird things, so I’m not saying it isn’t what happened, but it was a 30-06 rifle round which really should have done signficantly more damage from that range, so it is strange at the least.
If the bullet didn’t hit any bone that will greatly limit the visible damage
We also don’t have any pictures of the exit wound. There couldve be a huge chunk missing from the back of his neck that the camera couldn’t capture at that angle
I know nothing about guns or bullets, but is it possible the type of gun, or the specific bullet mattered?
No, not really. The type of gun doesn’t make a difference aside from the length of the barrel, but that’s pretty negligible for anything remotely normal (i.e. not a ~4-10inch barrel in this case).
Same thing with the cartridge/bullet, total energy varies bullet to bullet, but again, in a negligible way.
The real explanation is that the damage people expect from this cartridge is caused by hydrostatic shock: the shockwave caused by the bullet entering and slowing down significantly (transferring energy). Hitting somewhere soft and without much muscle mass, the side of the neck, let the bullet pass through without transferring a ton of energy.
Didn’t they rush to change the concrete pathing like the day after?
The type of gun can matter, for example an autoloading rifle is not quite as powerful as a bolt action rifle because it uses some of the energy to cycle the bolt and load the next bullet. The shooter allegedly used a bolt action rifle, though, which should basically be “the most powerful” type of rifle.
OMG, listening to some of y’all talk about this shit that have no experience or business trying to explain about ballistics and rifles and ammunition etc. is just hilarious.
Gun nuts.
The type of bullet definitely, 100% matters. Some bullets have more mass than other bullets, and the material of the bullet can be harder or softer. All of that will affect the type of damage. The amount of powder used to fire the bullet also affects its kinetic energy when hitting the target.
Do we have loads of data on bullets being shot at this exact location at this exact range against a real human? Nobody can predict this, no matter how much they love their guns.
Yes.
The 30.06 rifle has literally killed tens of thousands of people at every range imaginable. It is easily among the most well studied weapons on earth. This is easily among the most common weapons in the United States and this cartridge was the standard issue rifle cartridge for both world wars.
Who’s the guy with experience/expertise on this subject saying it should have done more damage?
Bring an expert that says the contrary instead of throwing vague shade. It’s the consensus in most fire arm circles from what I understand.
Lots of other things don’t add up as well (like paving over the crime scene a week later).
I neck shot my deer last year with a 30.06. No huge exit wound. Obliterated the spine. We usually hang them from the head but had to hang this one by the hind legs.
If everyone is saying it you should have a source to backup the theory. It’s not everyone elses’ responsibility to disprove it.
I don’t believe that conspiracy, but I do believe this kid was set up. This is what gangstalking is for. Manipulating loners or people that don’t meet social standards.
Of course there would be a government website talking shit about it.
For those that want a straight forward description beyond the conspiracy/schitzo bullshit. This stuff isn’t new at all… These concepts etc. When some people realize this is truth they will be wishing there was a God. Or more truthfully they will tuck their dicks and live for them like Nazi sympathizers.; https://www.reddit.com/r/TargetedSolutions/s/XT2625ztu9
it’s funny that you don’t believe that (ridiculous) conspiracy theory but believe in a legitimately schizophrenic conspiracy theory (gangstalking)
Gangstalking is documented as a psychological torture technique by the UN Office of the Commissioner on Human Rights.
They’re what medical experts refer to as an ‘Idiot’
People upvoting you need to know that this is not a thing.
You’re trusting a source published by the US government in 2025?
It absolutely is a thing.
Pay especial attention to point 14.
For more information, see here here and here:
https://purdueglobal.dspacedirect.org/items/07d416e0-5a77-46c6-818b-d33392493f4b
Can’t wait for some doc to get declassified and we learn the CIA has been doing it for decades.
“It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you”, I suppose. lol
It is not a ‘real phenomenon’ compared with genuine stalking
What is gangstalking and what genuine stalking? Basic trolling and harassing people is real thing. Unless you’re saying trolling doesn’t exist.
I know nothing about this “gangstalking” stuff, but it sounds like it’s about people who have a particular delusion, perhaps based on grander conspiracies, that isn’t grounded in reality. But that doesn’t mean that stalking doesn’t exist. Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that.
The far right propaganda system is making violent extremists. That is also a real thing. Whether or not it happened to this guy is not out of the question just because paranoid schizophrenia is a thing. Far right spaces are violent almost by default on account of being hate networks.
Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that.
So when I link to something talking about how gangstalking isn’t a thing, you think I’m saying stalking doesn’t happen?
Please feel free to put other words in my mouth, I guess, if it makes you happy to do so.
There’s a gangstalking subreddit; go give it a look.
You’ll see plenty of people posting on there about how “the followers” only appear when said poster has just finished smoking their bowl of meth. They’ll ask: Are the stalkers following them to steal their crank, or is the meth opening a vision of true reality and “unmasking” the followers?
And weirdly, no one can say for sure.
I’m not joking at all: These are the people you’re white-knighting. Maybe you can be the brave hero who solves the mystery for them?
Yeah, I’m no ballistics expert myself, but if you look up videos of a ballistic Test dummy getting shot in the neck at that range with that caliber bullet, it appears that (if the details of the official story were true) his head would have likely entirely detached from his body.
Nonsense. It depends on how.much it slowed (from that distance, quite a lot), whether it tumbled (from that distance, likely), and where it actually struck.
A sword can take someone’s head off. It can also pass through soft tissue and simply nick a major artery. It depends on where it hits and how hard.
To be clear, they did the Test at the same distance.
They didn’t mention the tumbling thing, but I assume that’s just because it’s a higher level concept than the demographic the video was designed for would be familiar with. (I don’t really have any knowledge on that aspect myself, not trying to say I do).
As far as where the bullet hit, I’m going just off of the video and official narrative. In the video it looks like he’s having a fencing response, which would indicate that he was hit with force and not just glanced/grazed.
In the official narrative they claim that the bullet got lodged in one of his vertebrae and stopped because his neck was “abnormally resilient”, or because “that’s what god wanted” depending on who you ask.
#HERO
Kirk was worthless small fry who was just a meme for having a freakishly small face. Killing him accomplished nothing even without factoring in that the shooter killed him for not being an “ideologically pure” enough Nazi.
i’m convinced that lemmy users don’t think for even half a second before posting, because wtf are you doing calling a shitstain nazi a hero just because he shot one guy we all hated? hitler shot a guy we all hated, is he a hero, too? fuck sake.
Hitler doesn’t get heroism points for killing Hitler because he also killed the man who killed Hitler. Bastard.
IIRC he was one of fuentes’ followers and viewed kirk as not right-wing enough. So, no.
You recall correctly
Of course he didn’t do it, we were doing shots down at o’paddies at the time, no way he did it, you all saw us there, didn’t you?
