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    I rewatched Napoleon Dynamite last week and it holds up well IMO. So, not that.

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      The thing is it was a refreshing change when it came out. I thought it was the funniest movie I’d seen in years, bought the DVD when it came out thinking it was still great then when I tried watching it again a year later and it completely lost it’s luster. It’s like Juno, that one movie was great for a change of pace in an otherwise stale genre

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        Some movies only hit on the first watch. Once you know the gags, twists or ending its just “Yeah Ok.”

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        IDK, I didn’t really buy into the hype of either film at the time so when I eventually saw them on DVD, I was disappointed of course. Individual scenes in Napoleon Dynamite were entertaining on their own merits and highly quotable, but the film barely had a cohesive plot and felt more like a series of comedy sketches stringed together rather than a proper movie.

        Juno was terrible thanks to the dialog alone. IDK who wrote that script (and don’t care to look it up), but it was some of the most unrealistic dialog I’ve ever heard in a piece of media. Everyone talks like robots and always has the perfect quirky comeback anytime anyone says something. The only person in that film who spoke like a human being was Michael Cera, but every scene with him in it was insufferable because he’s Michael Cera.

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          Diablo Cody was the writer of Juno, and I only know it because she became a hot commodity after the breakout success of Juno. And she had a middling hit with Jennifer’s Body but hasn’t done anything of note since.

          Meanwhile whomever did Napoleon Dynamite was getting offers left and right, and his followup Nacho Libre was a dud because they were banking on the same success of ND but starring Jack Black. Jon Heder got a bunch of offers, including that skating movie with Will Ferrell but I think he kinda just fizzled out

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    I nominate “Dude, Where’s My Car?”.

    I thought this was screamingly funny when it came out. It was the movie everyone quoted until “Napoleon Dynamite” came out. I tried rewatching it maybe a year or two ago and it’s aged like milk. Too much of the comedy relies on unhealthy stereotypes & tropes.

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      It’s purposefully stupid so the tropes don’t bother me, the reason it was funny at the time was because the tropes hadn’t been established as much. It’s like saying old art is boring cause everyone does that now not realizing it was the OG. I still liked it and we watched it for movie night once and my at the time 19 and 21 year old kids liked it, we all quote it now.

      ZULTAN!

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      I think dude where’s my car is a positive movie making light of negative anti light tropes though.

      The movie is oft’ seen as a hidden metaphor for two male friends getting drunk and having a night of passion together. This is because it begins with them waking up with a hangover, on the sofa together, and a random naked man walks out of their closet in the background. Then walks back in when they bottle the question of “what did we do last night?” and refuse to revisit it.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_VYCeYwyA

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      It actually holds up better when you interpret the guy walking out of, and back onto the closet, without either of them aware, in one of the first scenes, as demonstrating the theme of the movie.

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      I got free-ticket coupons when the film melted in the middle of (an inconsequential scene in) Shaft. We chose to see Dude, Where’s My car?. I still want my money back.

      It’s got two very quotable bits, but the rest I didn’t like in the slightest. Both leads have done better work!

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    One of my favorite teen movies was 16 Candles, which I loved as a kid, and looked forward to showing my son, when he got old enough.

    The day came, and he watched it without cracking a smile. When it ended, he asked, “What did you think was funny? The underage binge drinking, the wanton destruction of a beautiful house, the Asian racism, or maybe it was the statutory rape? What exactly is funny about this movie?”

    He ruins everything.

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      I guess I’ve only seen that movie once and it was about 30 or 40 years ago, I don’t remember a beautiful house being destroyed? I don’t remember any statutory rape? I guess it was just considered a normal sex scene back then? Either way I don’t remember that part either.

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        Remember the big party that was the centerpiece of the film? And the older guys were discussing having sex with the younger girls, one of them even saying “She’s a child!” But the older guy went after her anyway.

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      Wait, you mean to tell me that 16 Candles was supposed to be a comedy!?

      Teenage me absolutely did not pick up on that tidbit when I saw it in the early 2000s. I just saw it as yet another crappy romance film from the 80s. I was so bored that I can’t actually recall a single memorable scene from the film.

      Hate to break it to you, dude, but the movie was very much a product of its time. Anyone younger than Gen X isn’t going to “get” the film. As a Millennial, I surely don’t.

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    Eurotrip - the whole dvd.

    I clicked through rewatching some of it and it’s generically raunchy, like it was trying to outcompete the American Pie movie for sex references and topless women.

    Edit: It can be very depressing in winter.

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      here’s a fun fact - unlike most films of the time, it doesn’t celebrate sexual assault as acceptable!

      It also is surprisingly not bi-phobic - both Fiona’s MMF threesome and Jenny’s European crush’s bisexuality are not treated as aberrations against nature, etc.

      “Stay Black Bert” is a problem though.

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        Mi scussi guy, everybody at the beach, the hooligans, and literally the entirety of Cooper’s character seems like a way bigger deal than stay black bert lmao.

        I rewatched not long ago and would argue it remains one of the best raunchy teen comedies, not like that’s a high bar but I was still laughing through it.

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          The Mi Scussi guy is the best part of the film, and honestly I feel like that scene is even more relevant today then it was back then. Perverts should be mocked and ridiculed like they are in this film even moreso today!

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            Mi Scusi guy is also the Straight To Jail guy from parks and recreation, which I would NOT have realized without looking at his IMDB page.

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            I wasn’t actually saying those scenes were wrong, I was pointing out how dumb the other commenter’s complaint about “stay black bert” was…which they then kinda proved on their own by making a racist joke in their next comment lol.

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          I mean, the guys at the beach are being mocked for being perverts who women correctly avoid.

          The hooligans . . . . I agree it’s not good to let people think being English is acceptable, but they are taking the piss out of Italians, so it’s a hard call . . .

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              Yeah, call me when American Eyeties are being incarcerated and killed by police at numbers far outside anywhere near representative to their population percentage.

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                Then you double down by dropping an actual fucking slur while completely forgetting the actual history of Italians in America. Fuck off, racist piece of shit.

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                  while completely forgetting the actual history of Italians in America

                  Yeah buddy, I lived long enough around Italian-American reactionaries who were the most dependable enforcers of white priviledge to find that laughable. My Black friends honestly had to look up some of the slurs the old men in Brooklyn would use for them without hestitation.

                  Italians were made white in America quite a while ago. Reminding people that what to enforce white supremacy that they were often not considered white isn’t racism, it’s pointing out that racism is bad to the people that most need to understand that.

                  But meanwhile, you’re all . . .

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    Wish I could tell you off the top of my head, but if anyone is fond of badly aged comedy films (or just talking about them) there’s this great podcast/YT channel called This Aged Great focusing on 70s 80s & 90s films.

    Edit:

    • I think American Pie is a bit weird, not thwt funny given the subject matter, and contains really unpleasant elements
    • Some of the high school movies of early 2000s were leaning into the template set up by their famous 80s predecessors, but i think people understood that the 80s films were purposefully trope-y. Whereas for the 2000s movies, they were treating it with reverence and it was like an unpleasant commitment to keeping alive a situation which had only ever existed in the real of fiction
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      I actually liked the experience. No, not the movie, that was terrible LOL. But I remember watching it with my friends in highschool and we were the only ones in the theater aside from some other group, so we were quipping our own funnier jokes back and forth with these strangers making each other laugh lol.

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    Idiocracy

    I thought it was silly because of how crazy far-fetched and unrealistic it was, since that stuff could never happen in real life. But now that kind of comedy has aged terribly and is no longer funny at all.

    /s :(

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      I’m actually going to say this nonsarcastically. In its defense most of the movie is still pretty funny, but the eugenicist intro is really bad. It would’ve been better if you’d chopped that off and said he’d just been isekai’d to a world of stupid people.

      Really though I’d say the part that’s aged worse is maybe not even the film itself but the way that people keep trying to compare it to the present day. Idiocracy is a world of well-meaning idiots who still have hearts of gold, and the day is saved when they step aside and let the smartest guy in the room figure things out. That is the exact opposite of the problem we’re facing today, where the villains at the top are very smart and very evil, smart enough to know how to use stupid people as puppets for their selfish aims. Idiocracy doesn’t even have any true villain in it.

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        I’ve seen many people mention how they feel Idiocracy has gone from a comedy to a documentary. I disagree. I believe it’s become a vision of a better future than the one we currently have ahead of us. I wish I was kidding.

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        The idiots weren’t well-meaning with hearts of gold. They enjoyed guys actually getting kicked in the balls, gladiator games, and extreme objectification of women.

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          Thanks, it’s like people didn’t actually watch this movie before parroting these opinions about it. “Camacho actually had good intentions”, except the part where he sent Not Sure to be executed at the end.

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          That’s little more than cartoonish at worst. No one in the film is truly evil the way that real world oligarchs are evil.

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            I apologize for punching down. The little man is a victim of his circumstances and can take no real responsibility for anything.

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          The way I saw it, the idiots in Idiocracy were that way because they were stupid, and less so because they were actually malicious. That’s in contrast to today where we have people who are certainly capable of doing better but chose to act the way they do.

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        How is it eugenicist? It took and actual real life trend in many western countries at the time and caricatured it to an extreme. It is a goofball comedy.

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    The other day I wanted to watch a fun animated movie, and found that I’d never seen a Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles movie that came out in 2007. Downloaded, put it on… and immediately greeted by the weinstien logo… then they had not one but TWO different Asian actors doing lines in the “broken Chinese accent.” Kinda ruined the whole movie for me.

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    Norbit.

    I mean, it was questionable then too. But looking back on how Eddie Murphy decided to tank his career says a lot about how comedians of the time loved punching down.

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    Bring It On, which is surprising.

    Just a little too much casual rape dismissed as “digits slip.”

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      I kid you not, I was a male cheerleader, and I had that happen to me (not on purpose). Bloomers are required for a reason.

      Cheerleading as a whole is incredibly tied in with patriarchy and sexualization of minors to begin with.

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    I don’t know if 2010 is allowed, but Get Him To The Greek would probably have to be up there. Russell Brand and P. Diddy together on screen at last!