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    You know how we tell the story about brutally murdering the Son of God? We want to put that on display, all the time, in His House, so He never ever forgets.

    God is love!

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      But don’t forget, Jesus is also God. Fully, but also distinct. So we’re reminding Him about how He had himself killed so that He could forgive us because some lady who didn’t know anything didn’t follow His directions

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      In Christianity, the crucifixion is the moment of victory. Christ’s sinless death is what allows mankind to be redeemed, and that was the plan all along. So they see the crucifixion as holy, though it is also mourned. It is used as a reminder of the love God has for his people and as a sort of “try to be better” thing.

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        Pretty weak deity which can’t even forgive the sins they created themselves without all the pageantry. This is why I only worship my TI-83 calculator from middle school. It is capable of completely passive forgiveness, and largely unwilling to resort to damnation under any circumstances.

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        It’s also a crock of shit that we use to control people. If you’re luck enough to get out of your small town and away from you family like I was, you can deprogram.

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      No wonder Jesus hasn’t come back. We never miss a chance to remind him of what happened last time

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        This reminds me of a joke:

        " Aliens make first contact with humans. They are peaceful and start a dialogue with us. The subject of religion comes up, and Christianity is described to the aliens and they respond by saying ’ oh yeah we know Jesus. He came comes to visit you too?’

        ‘Well yes, once, over 2000 years ago.’

        To which the aliens reply: ‘That’s weird he visits us every year, stays for about a week for the high feast we throw in his honor. It’s a recreation of what we did for him the first time he appeared. What happened when he came here? Maybe if you recreated whatever that was…’

        ‘Oh, um, we crucified him.’

        ‘Oof. Ok. Makes sense now.’

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      Christians with crucifixes are like reporters asking the Irwin siblings about their father’s death in every interview. Why do you want to dwell on the worst thing ever?

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        I thought it was like the heads-on-pikes thing? Christians are like Klingons right?

        Our gods are dead.
        We killed them.
        They were more trouble than they were worth.

        metal as fuck

        Christianity is the most badass religion.

        Do I have that wrong?

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    Catholicism lore and practices are actually pretty metal if you think about it.

    Carry a figure of the dying tortured son of god in a little chain on your neck. Nailed to a cross, speared through the chest, and with a fucking spine crown.

    Spikes and a skull tattoos have NOTHING on Catholic paraphernalia.

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    Literally the second commandment:

    2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

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      “You shall not make for yourself…”

      That means it’s ok to just buy it, or you can make them and sell them. So long as you don’t make one and keep it for yourself.

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      My dad used to beat this fact down my throat when I was a kid. No visual depictions of God/Jesus allowed. I wasn’t allowed to watch The Passion or even Veggietales. But Prince of Egypt was okay.

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          any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.

          So making fish statues are ok, but don’t worship a fish statue as an idol. I don’t see an issue with making a likeness to something as long as you’re not worshipping it

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            No, it clearly says: “You shall not make…”, and then adds the reason at the end. It seems God doesn’t even want you making it for any reason, because you might use it to worship. Banning images eliminates the temptation.

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              We’re dealing with at least two intervening languages and generations of oral history here. Nitpicking semantics isn’t terribly useful.

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              I’m not sure that’s the interpretation that Catholics go with, and I don’t think they idolize the statues they make. Either way the qualifier, as I’m reading it, is that they make the thing to worship the thing.

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            Apologies, I misunderstood your question. I do wonder if you’ve seen how Catholics treat such depictions. I’d say they worship it or at least use it as an idol.

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      True, but also the commandments aren’t actually numbered. IIRC, there are 13 “Shalls” and “Shall nots”. So Catholics lump that section in with the first (no other gods, etc.) while the Protestants make room by joining “don’t covet wife/property”. There’s arguments to support both sides when looking at the historical context but on that specific issue I’d lean toward the Catholic interpretation making more sense considering god is telling people to make statues shortly after (Exodus 25:18). Either way it’s silly to be arguing over rules that bronze age people invented.

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    Anybody that’s read the Bible knows Jesus was a White man from New Jersey.

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    Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all tax free! They get tax benefits that no “non-profit” can match.

    These are all unfathomably wealthy organizations. Their fundamentalists all despise us (us being not them). Get a job

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    Can’t sell as much merchandise without a face to go along with the name.

    WWJD? SELL SELL SELL!!!