Tea motherfucks, do you drink it?
can I smoke it?
Real MenTM smoke their tea.
My old roommate used to call coffee and a cigarette “a pilot’s breakfast.”
Where the whisk(e)y at?
In the coffee, duh
Not with my Whisk(e)y you don’t.
I drink soda In the mornings, and my brother was telling me how unhealthy I am (yes I am) and I said “well, I could be having cigarrets and coffeee, or smoking crack…” He never said anything anymore lol perspective is important
Same thing with my mother, “dont drink coca cola, it’s bad for your health” while she smokes and drinks coffee!
And maybe a pipe later.
Vaping and coffee are both less likely to kill you than their alternatives
Seems like it’s not about traditional vs modern
Yep, that’s why vapes so heavily promoted. Who cares if you get lead poisoning and are stupid if you die later and can work longer.
Vapes have lead? I thought they were concerned about the aerosolized polyethylene glycol.
Vapes work by vaporising the liquid using a metal (usually leaded) coil (Edit: which heats up and cools down rapidly and many times). While cigarettes also contain lead (like everything else), it isn’t nearly as bad.
Yeah change shit to piss.
How about… None of those and touch the grass idk?
If you’re gonna make me get up too early to go to a place I don’t want to be and deal with people I hate I’m gonna need drugs to keep from causing a scene.
Remove the cigs and it’s actually a good upgrade, coffee does not cause much issues unless you drink 3 glasses a day
Whew, I have at least 4 coffees, so I skipped the danger zone
Phew
I think the world is a better place without foam cups and cigarettes
Vaping and energy drinks have there own problems but are not nearly as bad
Those disposable vapes are so fucking bad for the environment
They’re also mostly for kids, who shouldn’t be vaping anyway. They should be banned.
Idk, I’m a full adult and like them. They’re yummy.
I like the fruit flavored nicotine pouches too.
Get a refillable vape. You only need to change the coil, and it’s recyclable. You can get all the same flavours. It’s also cheaper as well as not being environmentally destructive.
I don’t like vaping, but you do you. But please at least get a vape with replaceable pods. You’re basically throwing away an entire phone battery each time
I like them and I like vaping and the fruity flavors, but I don’t buy or use anymore don’t worry.
…and your lungs
Sure they are probably better than cigarettes but the bar is extremely low
I’m not one to complain about what harms people choose to expose themselves to. Everyone owns their own body. The environmental damage effects us all though.
It makes health insurance more expensive for everyone, at least here in Germany
It is crucial to draw a distinction between direct and indirect harms, tangible and abstract harms. Does the problem lie in the individual’s right to bodily autonomy and self determination? Or does it lie in the design of a system that forces the consequences of individuals’ decisions to be diffused across the entire population? I don’t really know, but it raises a lot of questions. Is it fair to punish those who don’t make the choice to smoke? Is it fair to treat those who make the choice to smoke differently? Discussion around smoking induces a very, very strong bias.
Consider something else: Should I be made to feel guilty for the economic impact if I choose to cut myself with a knife vs. if someone else chooses to cut me with a knife? Obviously, any compassionate person would be more focused on what caused the decision. Anybody would know in this scenario that inducing guilt over the economics of self harm is fucked. Now, if someone else cut me, the obvious way to repair the situation would be to punish the perpetrator.
Do you see what I’m getting at? You shouldn’t be mad at the smoker. Generally, nobody chooses to harm themselves. They misunderstood the risks, fell for it, and got addicted. You should be mad at the cigarette companies for not paying restitution for their societal harm. Maybe smokers should be held responsible for those they spread the social contagion of smoking to, but they are in no way culpable for the indirect, abstract harms you perceive. They aren’t choosing to cost you money, your government is choosing it by not holding the perpetrator responsible.
Fair. However, what do you think about people who drive recklessly? They risk their own life and spend more money for fuel, perhaps also for a sports car but they also put others in danger, increase traffic deaths and pollution.
Is it an underlying psychological disorder that makes them do it? Is it the marketing of the auto industry and they fell for it or are they directly responsible?
It’s a bad direct comparison with smoking but there is a line somewhere where people are either directly responsible or everything is predetermined and a result of outer circumstances.
I’m glad the social democracy in Germany can (so far) account for “selfish” individual decisions. It’s also one of the fields where taxation could be very effective. E.g. taxes on tobacco are quite high in Germany but less for fuel and cars, mostly because of our own car industry but also because pretty much everyone depends on them, regardless of their driving style.
My comment sounded pretty salty but I just wanted to point out that harmful individual choices can affect others. What I’m actually mad about is that the social security in Germany is slowly deteriorating. There’s enough money and resources to uphold it but US inspired management and economy styles direct the resources into billionaires pockets while at the same time playing the “look over there, the poor people and immigrants took your money and get everything for free” game.
If you want to drive recklessly, I have no problem with it IF you go somewhere where endangering others is impossible. I feel the same way about smoking. Overconsumption of fossil fuels harms the environment, the same way littering cigarette butts does, but you don’t have to do either of these things to indulge in your vice. If someone chooses to harm themselves, they have a responsibility to fully mitigate the “real” risk to others. By “real”, I mean unavoidable, tangible, physical and/or psychological harm caused by their actions. Not things that really result from economic math and policy decisions. The individual does not have a responsibility to constrain their choices based on their government’s bad policy, and socially enforcing that they do (through guilt/shame) is really stupid. It only serves to hand governments more power than they ought to have, and it reinforces said bad policy.
I think there is a lot of confusion in society, both about what it means to mitigate harm and what harm is itself. One helpful (though not universally applicable) idea I have to clarify things is that if you need to use a calculator to determine if you’re harmed or not, you should be blaming your government.
I don’t want to smell your substance use
You think I’m advocating for people to smoke in public? You think I’m advocating for people to smoke at all? Why don’t you re-read my comment and pay close attention to my wording.
You can cut your finger off at the 2nd knuckle or the 3rd knuckle.
Paper cup coffees and regular cigs are better of these evils. Foam is cursed, but not as cursed as disposable or even rechargeable vape. It’s like comparing soft and cold, but someone’s more obvious individual likeness to get a lung cancer may be less significant than a trace of li-pol batteries they’d leave after them, I believe.
I think they are all terrible. Why compare them when we can simply do none of the above
Because you compared them
If not for the Marlboro at the bottom, I would have been left puzzled what the top left item is.
It’s a boofer. You use it before anal sex to scent and clean your butthole via steaming
can confirm. tetris has a fantastic smell to their butthole. it’s kinda floral.
Can you send me their underwear, I want a whiff.
no.
Fine, I’ll go get it myself.
The bulge isn’t 100% accurate though, mine is girthier, and L-shaped
You think everything’s a boofer
Hmm Styrofoam for that extra health debuff
You have to get in your microplastics somehow it’s part of a balanced breakfast
its early in the morning
about a quarter to three
and I’m sitting here talking to my baby
Plus, nobody ever stayed up til 3am at the local diner talking over a bottomless pot of Monster®.
It really depends on which you hate the most; your lungs and environment, or your teeth and nervous system.
That’s my boy!
Just the black coffee that tastes like mud in a foam cup for me thanks.
