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With the plethora of great games getting released every month on PC, it’s very hard to feel any excitment for a game that will probably release in 2027 on PC. It doesn’t help that GTA Online left a sour taste, and even the single player story was only great for the first few hours then you just start doing heists for the fbi for the rest of the game. Considering we’re only getting a cinematic trailer after all this wait, I’m expecting already multiple delays or cyberpunk-level of disaster at launch
Man youre so right… You know they are going console 1st… then when sales die down they will release on PC. Same rinse and repeat bull shit as before.
My question is going to be how online will this one be? If it’s two separate deals like 5 then cool… If not. I’m probably going to pass.
I suspect given the success of GTA online their priorities have shifted and they’ll want this on as many platforms as possible on release. They’re a GTA online company now, units sold are a secondary concern.
Take-Two already announced on their website there will be a time-exclusive release for PS5 and Xbox initially.
My guess is they’re going to treat online like a separate game release, like they did for GTA V and RDR2, and get out a PC version when that happens.
Yeah, I am really tired of the double dipping attempts of trying to sell the game twice.
As a former Floridian, this is definitely triggering my PTSD as they seriously nailed the atmosphere of Vice City (Miami). Curious if the main characters will be as well written as V’s were
Please not, V’s characters were kinda meh
Michael and Trevor were pretty well written, it was just the story that was kind of lacking IMHO
Ok, I think you got a point there.
But Franklin is a very plain yes man character.
I’m more interested of how much satire, sarcasm, irony and parody they bring into gta 6. Not really care about graphics since whats shaping up gta is the satirical of the world especially usa.
If they still keep those in check on release, rockstar still had the balls.
Even though it is coming from rockstar main studios, I just hope it won’t be end up like Saints Row reboot which turn out become massive joke and the volition had to close up lmao.
Yeah, hard to say what they do. If they keep the GTA 5 insanity level then its hardly a parody of real life since thats where real life is at.
I find it a little upsetting that 5’s parody has become only a slight exaggeration of reality
I just replayed it on PS5 for the first time since I beat it on PS3 and I was thinking the same thing.
Honestly, if Rockstar can make a modern GTA equivalent of Saints Row 2, they’d be golden. Which is kind of ironic in a sense since Saints Row was originally the “GTA at home” clone but became amazing.
In a sense of gritty crime story telling? Yeah I’d agree. Things that make SR1 & 2 differs from GTA is that they dont shy away from goofiness and let players having fun with lots of side activity but at same time they also have coherent direction where the story heading at (like Yakuza series).
Though I would be more cautious in writing as the only veteran staff of GTA creation that stays on Rockstar is Sam Houser. Dan Houser (his brother), Leslie Benzies and some others key people had leave Rockstar games due to some internal issues as far as I know.
The retards in the comments are giving me cancer.
Did we watch the same trailer? This looks fucking amazing. None of this is actual gameplay footage, and about two scenes actually look like cutscenes. but it’s all been rendered IN ENGINE. Just like every other fucking Rockstar trailer to ever exist. This looks freaking insane.
People are shitting on the 2025 release date like……bruh. RDR2 took 8 years to develop. Rumors say this has been in development since 2019 or so, right after the release of RDR2. So 6-7 years which makes perfect sense. I’m not happy about the nearly two year wait but it fits with the development timeline.
Jesus christ I hope Rockstar parodies all of your asses to show how fucking negative the internet has become.
It’s going to be the most politically satirical GTA yet and the chuds will think that it’s actually dunking on libruls.
I’m with you. The trailer looks incredible and I am very eagerly anticipating the game.
The trailer showed a lot of things that would likely be a part of the GTA6 story, and for that it looks like the game is geared up to be something incredibly entertaining and FUN!
My only gripe is the PC version is likely to release after consoles :(
This is definitely at least in-engine, likely actually in-game footage:
- characters swimming in the water during both of the beach shots have no animations whatsoever, they just stand on the water like they’re jesus christ.
- one of the container ships in the later overhead shot showing the derelict bridge is entirely untextured and extremely low res, while the rest of the environment is highly detailed
- in the opening shot, parts of the city are billboarded or simple blocks to provide a basic skyline shape, while the areas around the prison are extremely detailed
The NPCs standing on the water also suggests NPCs are driven by the final actor and animation systems, but the animations for swimming or walking through water are just not done yet.
We also see a significant difference between the recreations of florida man memes, where every motion is keyframed to match the original videos, and the parts of the trailer where we see NPCs actually running their regular animation loops, as in the beach, club or road scenes.
Now, will we see this level of quality in game? Yes and no. Usually, a small elite team builds a vertical slice, a single mission in which every little mechanic already works, followed by many larger teams then building the rest of the game, trying to match the quality of the original template.
A good example of this is the original 40min E3 demo of cyberpunk 2077, which exists in the game 1:1 today. This vertical slice was awesome, but later missions usually had fewer alternative solutions, less polished environments and an overall lower interactivity.
So while I’m sure the robbery / prison / parole hearing part is fully fleshed out and will likely be included in the final game as-is, other parts of the game might not reach the same level of realism. Even if you ran the game on the same high-end workstations the developers are using.
Rockstar has a pretty good track record on their trailers being very close to what the actual game is.
None of this is actual gameplay footage,
So there’s nothing to care about in the trailer.
You can generate anything in-engine, it’s not representative of gameplay. Everyone does it and it’s equally shitty. It looks like a minute and a half of cutscenes and, other than character reveals it looks like a normal release. It just looks like smoothed out gta5, so like…gta5 on pc. The achievement wouldn’t be the graphics, it would be “can it maintain the graphics steadily and not drop frames”
Timeline is irrelevant, agreed. it will come out when it comes out.
That one scene where the guy was getting out of the car kinda looked like gta5 but the rest looked great…
It all looks great. That’s kinda the expectation tbh. It does look good, but all games “look good” at this stage. This gives rise to the other question about can it look good and be stable, even on lower end hardware (ps4/x1 and mid/low pcs) for release.
But a video is a video. I realize it’s so early and am not knocking it for lacking gameplay footage, just that generating a video in-engine is not representative of gameplay, or gameplay elements.
Rockstar has a great track record of their trailers being very close to the final game. Just look at any of their trailers and the final game. There’s not really any reason to believe it will be different this time.
I have a strange feeling about the story for this game. Here’s my prediction:
Lucia breaks out of prison with the help of Jason and an outside character. Lucia and Jason then go on the run turning into a Bonny and Clyde story. Doing heists and robbing people to make some cash to get away from the cops. But then, they rob the wrong person or they were forced to rob the person by the other character and are forced into the drug trade. Maybe the other character was a narco that either Lucia or Jason knew. The FIB or DEA catch wind of this and since Lucia and Jason prove to be very good criminals, they then rope them into taking down the drug trade by robbing and pulling heists.
This goes on until they both eventually find a way out or plan to pull “one last heist” that’ll free them from both the narcos and the FIB or DEA. But then, whoopsie, turns out either Lucia or Jason had some ulterior motive for tagging along with one another. While Lucia or Jason was in prison, they struck a deal with either the narcos or FIB to either escape the country or wipe their record. The catch? They had to bring the other person in, kill them, or just generally betray them.
Then the final act would be one of three options. Lucia kills Jason, Jason kills Lucia, or they both fight the narcos and FIB together Bonnie and Clyde style. Either way, bullets are gonna be flying.
The end game would be only Lucia or Jason are left alive and free of both the narcos and FIB. But, Maybe they became a crime Lord in the drug trade thanks to the other person dying or the FIB unknowingly.
Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.
Sounds exactly like something Rockstar would write. Kinda predictable, kinda “been there, done that”.
Thanks, you’ve saved me $80.
Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.
By either
A) sacrificing themselves for the other or
B) being in a shootout with help arriving too late.I think the “escape from prison” part won’t happen, because we see Lucia with an ankle monitor in the promo pic. Implying she’s on parole or something. The rest sounds plausible though.
Knowing Rockstar put off development of this game for as long as they did just so they could milk GTAO for every last penny makes me hesitant at best.
I have never been let down by a GTA campaign, but they know where the money is, I’m hesitant to believe they will give this one the attention it deserves after seeing the profits from GTAO. Or maybe I’m just pessimistic
GTA5’s campaign was fairly good, but it sucks they abandoned the planned additions and shoved the assets into GTAO only. I do not care to play GTAO, but I would have liked more things to do in single player. Knowing that this is likely going to have single player solely as a pipeline into GTAO though, yeah I’m sceptical too.
I just wonder if they can actually figure out a way to make GTA online actually fun. Because It really isn’t a good game mode.
All of the online modes that are actually fun are all modded servers. The mental servers are awful you spawn in and get blown up instantly, how’s that fun?
GTAOnline has suffered from feature pile-on. I think there’s an official software development term for it, but I can’t remember it. It’s fun, aside from the astronomical grind and push for shark cards (but there are ways around that wink wink) Even considering that, getting into it as a new player is wild.
there’s an official software development term for it
Scope creep I think.
That’s probably the wrong term. Scope creep is when you’re working on a project and you keep adding new requirements to the design before you finish the existing ones. Your scope creeps further and further into the future. GTAO is a project that is available, and increasing scope hasn’t seemed to delay new content.
That said, I don’t know what the “correct” term would be either.
Maybe feature creep?
I usually think of scope creep as adding more and more work items, like this: you’re building a bridge between two buildings. During design, you find out one of the buildings has terrible foundations that should really just be replaced. Scope creep would be deciding to replace the building foundations as part of the bridge project.
It’s possible I’m not using the term correctly either though. Maybe what I’ve described instead is design creep, or something.
They finished GTA V release in 2015, released Red Dead Redemption II in 2018, and this will be 2025
Sounds like continuous development to me?
It’s 10 fucking years. GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were all less than a couple years apart. They need to reuse that strategy of working in parallel and reusing the game engine for a few sequels before moving to the next generation.
I’m confident they would’ve released more games if GTA Online wasn’t such a money printer for them. For those of us that liked the single player though and didn’t touch online, it’s been a while!
Games were way lower fidelity and quicker to make back then, bro. It’s nowhere near the same thing.
It took billions of years to make pacman and 14 years to make pacman 2. They should be able able to make GTA 6 in a week. GTA 7 should come out before Christmas.
It’s 10 years since last GTA. In the middle there is a little game known as Red Dead Redemption 2, which is massive and took the whole studio to make.
Yeah I played that one. Also pretty great. Hope they build another one soon. It’s already been 5 years.
RDR2 was still phenomenal after getting the GTAO money. Rockstar can still make great single-player content when they want to.
I agree. It’s just that this is the same series… Idk maybe it will kick ass, I’m just overly cynical I guess lol
My expectation is that it will be very good, but will have no single player DLC whatsoever in lieu of GTAO2 or whatever they call it. And no, I’ve never forgiven them for doing that with V. At least this time I won’t be expecting it.
What if it doesn’t need DLC? When the concept of DLC first came out, everyone complained that devs were just releasing unfinished games and that you were obligated to buy DLC to enjoy a full experience. Now people only buy games because they’re expecting DLC?
Because Rockstar did some good DLC for GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption. I agree that DLC isn’t a good thing if it’s carved out of the base game, but Rockstar had a good track record of making good DLC for already feature-complete games.
Unnecessarily cynical. The same series? Are Vice City, SA, and 4 considered bad games?
Did you even read my initial comment?
I explicitly said that I have never been let down by a GTA campaign. What I was saying was that RDR2 is a different series that plays by different rules. For that reason I don’t feel like it’s necessarily fair to use RDR2 as an example of how they will treat GTA with the respect the series deserves.
They’re not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing a new game only to focus on GTAV online.
Counterpoint: Warzone.
Why does it make you hesitant? GTAV isn’t GTA6.
Hahaha 2025, I knew it. people are gonna be pissed 🤣
Not surprised, GTA 5 was announce 2011 and release 2013.
Not disappointed in the trailer or the game or anything, but I would’ve loved to see a GTA set in a city outside the US. For example in a London-like city or Tokyo or Rome or Paris.
But yeah this new GTA looks sick. They did a great job in capturing the new fucked up Florida vibe.
GTA: GTA (Greater Toronto Area)
Five stars is just the RCMP apologizing to you.
Unless you’re a native character…
Hahahahaha
If Rockstar wanted to bring back London '69 (maybe '89 now?) I wouldn’t be mad at all.
I’ve always dreamed about this one, London 69 updated in their recent style. I think they talked about this before and the problem is the cops in London didn’t carry guns then so it made it difficult to be a GTA game in the typical sense.
They have police in those city.
All 2022 Rome had only 16 homicides… And street are too small and traffic is too bad for a grand theft auto… Rome is good for spy stories, thriller or stealth games. GTA wouldn’t really work
In London not even police has guns… Having someone hanging around with a gun is too unrealistic, more than Harry potter
Technically… London has already been done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_London_1969.
For Rome, grand theft auto in the 70s is absolutely doable. Full of gangs, terrorists, molotovs.
Grand theft auto Rome 2023 would be about some fat guy bribing politicians to get the work for his company of collect garbage and never do it. The lucrative non-fancy side of crime
Ah… you make a very good point.
Sleeping Dogs is probably as close as you’ll get. That’s a great game btw.
Thanks for the reference! I’ll check that out!
Solid game, I believe it began as a sequel to True crime streets of LA. It felt like I was playing an infernal affairs video game
USA as a very car centric country is definitely best suited for a car centric game like Grand Theft Auto.
That’s true lol. It’s not called grand theft métro de Paris.
grand theft bicycle with a canal boat chase set anywhere in the Netherlands
The Getaway had plenty of car action, it was pretty neat blasting through the tight roads and navigating traffic.
I always assumed GTA to be a broad parody on modern America. From the beginning it was a new York esque mob-gang warfare, and then moved out to add in more usa adjacent scenery. It’s more about keeping with the theme, let IPs like watchdogs take the initial risks.
Good point. And Florida has become crazy enough that a GTA game set there is almost realistic.
I’d like it just set in any new city outside of these 3. It’s always been a rotation of Liberty, Vice and San Andreas, even back to GTA 1 (which was the 3 cities in one)
True. Chicago would’ve been nice. Or Atlanta.
The Florida vibe is definitely oozing from this trailer. I can almost smell it, and quite frankly I’m disgusted. Bravo. I would’ve preferred the next GTA being somewhere else, but maybe this it exactly where it belongs.
Agree. Florida culture has become very conductive for this kind of game.
Wiarton Ontario
I want them to spin off another top down style gta game, I love the 3d but it would be cool to see them iterate on the OG style.
GTA 2 was my favorite
GTA Chinatown Wars was great when it released for Nintendo DS and the PSP. It was actually a really well done update to the GTA 2 style of gameplay that a lot of people missed because it was a portable game. It was available on iOS and Android, too, but not sure if it’s still there.
Aaand remember: Respect is everything!
That just might be a good indy game project actually…
Idk… If it hasn’t happened with the Switch… Like they did with PSP and DS with GTA china town …
CDMX
Am I the only one who no longer cares for GTA series after the Shark Code shitshow series has become ans the dropped promise of single player mods and DLC?
I’m only interested in GTA 6 for the single player game. Never played GTA 5 online for more than 30 minutes. I wish they had given us some single player DLC, but I guess Rockstar decided they could make the more money selling a handful of kids fake in game currency so why bother. It sucks for those of us that like the single player because it means we get a new game once a decade now. Used to be that Rockstar released a new GTA every couple years.
I’m still malding at how they canceled the singleplayer dlc so they could reskin and release the same content over and over on multiplayer (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Gta online was fun at first, when it was all about fooling around in the awesome big map with friends, but after that got old, there’s nothing else to do but grind boring missions that all feel the same.
Yep
Dude that’s why I stopped playing GTA V, I finished the offline story mode and there was nothing else to do for offline.
I mean isn’t that the case with most single player story games? You can still do side missions and other activities
Yea but they could’ve added more main story DLC.
The GTAOnline situation is super wack, but R* hasn’t stopped delivering great single player campaigns, well technically only one - RDR2 - since introducing shark cards, and it is still completely separate from RDROnline and the paid currency. I won’t pre-order GTAVI still, even once it comes to PC, but I’m going to pick it up if the reviews are halfway decent.
I guess so. I have no idea what you’re talking about. GTA V was awesome.
You’re mad that the online component of GTAV had premium currency microtransactions? Just don’t buy them. Also, there are loads of single player mods for V, don’t know what you mean.
This is a weird fucking place, bro.
Like, I thought reddit was full of bitter cynics, but only on Lemmy could I find an entire GAMING community that is angry at the next GTA game.
This place must be full of 55+ year olds or something.
You can’t join into multiplayer/gta online unless you disable all mods. For a live service that needs loading Individually it still doesn’t operate as good as it should especially when they have the funds for it. They dont care for the player experience. After 4 times having to enable, test and disable mods just to play online with friends, I dropped gta V all together. Wasn’t worth co figuring 150+ mods just to have them all break when you have to disable them.
That’s to be expected. But if you only play games because mods exist, do you even like the games you play?
if you’re that dedicated to mods and online multi, you should probably have two systems. Of course mods aren’t gonna play nice with an online mutli.
GTA is out of touch with the times. These days it’s all grand theft catalytic converter and leave your car in a shit state where you don’t know what’s even wrong with it if you aren’t a mechanic.
Looks great. I knew after the RDR2 crocs we were going to be getting much better wildlife, which is very exciting.
Graphics look awesome, promising Bonnie and Clyde story.
Seem to have expanded out their in game social media and Internet designs.
Figured it would be 2025 as historically the first trailer always comes out around a year and a half before the game is slated to.
I’m cautiously optimistic. I really hope this isn’t the first GTA game they ruin. I hate that they discarded the additions to GTA V’s single-player in exchange for GTA Online updates, I hope they won’t do that here, even though I did actually enjoy GTA Online too.
All GTA onlines have the been the biggest pieces of shit in my opinion.
Never spent a cent and never will.
It was real dirty of Rockstar doing that.
Overreaction much? GTA4 online granted didn’t even work, but V online is exactly how you want GTA online to behave, minus the load times. No one is forcing you to play online. You’ll easily get 100 hours just fucking around in single player.
I honestly well and truly loved gta Iv’s online. Keep it simple I say
I always thought I wanted GTA Online during the GTA3 era. Then when it became a reality, I realized I really didn’t want it and preferred the single player. The moment the story ends though, I have zero interest. Same with RDR2. Don’t care much to run around an empty world trying to collect 100% completion. Online is toxic and boring. Anything with an in game currency that you can buy with real money is a no from me. I guess I grew up in a different era when games were games and not gambling scams.
I won’t be pre-ordering (because they likely won’t be releasing on PC at launch, ugh), but I have high hopes. There hasn’t been a R* game without a killer story. I kinda expected RDR2’s story to be an afterthought to the online, as that was their first game since GTAOnline, however it was still an awesome single player campaign.
We don’t preorder games here. It will be the best selling game of 2025. You’ll get a copy.
Sorry, I wouldn’t pre-order even if it was released on PC at launch, I didn’t make that clear.
Also, as if anyone should be worried about getting a copy when digital distrubition exists.
At what point in history did Rockstar release a sub-par game?
They didn’t yet, but they could at any time. Enshitification is a real thing and it’s starting to become more widespread. I just have to hope that GTA 6 will be good. I think it probably will be.
I was disappointed by GTAV - yeah graphics were great, huge world and all, but they skimped on the writing.
IMO almost every GTA has had derivative writing and set ups, but it’s okay because of everything else taking the spotlight. 3 was just Claude doing random missions until one mission lets you get revenge on Catalina and then the game just ends. Vice City is a revenge plot sort of but it’s just Tommy doing random jobs until Sonny’s like “oh you fancy huh?”. SA’s story was just batshit crazy all over the place. 4 IMO had the actual good story and didn’t seem derivative. Niko was a genuinely interesting character. V’s story was just straight forward “criminals finding out who snitched”, satisfying, but a bit scant. I just ask for a serviceable crime plot set in a vibrant and lived in world.
I dont remember the gta v launch, but i definatly remember the cyberpunk hype and launch
You don’t remember V’s launch? It was a massive success.
I wasnt on the internet back then. Got open access to the internet around 2015.
Dude, people took off work for that launch.
And that’s why this is a console only release for now.
That’s what doomed cyberpunk. I got my Series X halfway through the campaign, and it was a different game on the X vs the One. I wish they had scrapped current gen plans for that game and went next gen only. It would have been a more successful launch.
Florida simulator.
I hope this is going to be good. But I’m not going to hold my breath. Because we are talking about Take-Two and Rockstar here.
Help a woman who needs an abortion
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Tell kids about gay people
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Eh, since that law applies to classroom instruction, they’d have to save that one for a Bully sequel.
I was thinking the same, but then again taking a long time to put games out isn’t the same as putting out broken games. I mean rdr, rdr2, and gtav are stellar games that launched without any glaring faults iirc. Taking time is fine as long as we get a complete product.
Take-Two are be pretty scummy (especially the sports game division), but Rockstar don’t miss.
Expect evolution not revolution, but we’re going back to Vice City, so count me in.
I’m just concerned that they’re going to go all in on GTA online 2.
They either need to make sure they put a huge amount of effort into the single player or they need to completely rework online play.
They didn’t for Red Dead 2. I don’t see why they would for this.
I’ve haven’t touched the multiplayer player content in any of their games, and never felt short changed by what I got.
When has Rockstar themselves put out a bad game?
Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition was bad.
EDIT Manhunt 2 was bad. When comparing it to the first game.
i don’t really count remasters that were outsourced, that is 2k and grove street games’ sin
Rockstar did okay it.
Ahh yes the “cautious gamer that doesn’t think GTA is going to be good” archetype.
Get hyped for GTA: Florida Man!
Seriously, I’m in NW FL, nowhere near real cities, but this seems spot on.
Game set in Florida> Alligator enters store> Best GTA game.
“Florida Man: The Game”
Pizza Gator better be in there too! My man Gumbo deserves his 15 minutes.
Rockstar’s gonna have to turn the satire up to 12 to beat the reality of Florida in 2025.
