Sofia “Buff Girlfriend” @sofiabuffgf

Installing a bidet at home was life changing but unfortunately it’s transformed pooping on company time from a small proletarian victory into yet another grueling humiliation of inadequate working conditions.

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    4 months ago

    I relate to this on such a deep level. I really dread using any toilet that doesn’t have a bidet now. I can’t figure out why they aren’t everywhere . It has to be better for the environment.

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      4 months ago

      I was in Japan for two weeks and not once did I use a toilet without a bidet. It was glorious.

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      4 months ago

      Go for a portable one. Be clean and proud. Nobody is gonna ask you about the flask-thing anyway unless they want one. https://www.happypo.de/ No idea if it has a translated site, but it’s quite butt-forward anyhow.

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        We have those in the US as well. They’re meant for women who just gave birth to clean their privates. The hospital gave my wife 3 that we got to take home since they can’t reuse them.

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          4 months ago

          Bidets can generally also be used for lady parts, but it isn’t just for that. In the link, it does call itself “butt shower”.

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            Yeah, but this “portable bidet” is literally the exact same product that has been marketed towards post-partum women in the US. I mean that literally, it’s the exact same product made in China, marketed by some slimy western asshole as a “revolutionary portable bidet!!!1!11!”

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    4 months ago

    I don’t think I’ve seen a post that spoke so strongly to me

    That said. Working at a Japanese company has some perks like this in particular

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      4 months ago

      I got to learn to love those bidet toilets through my frequent (extended) work travels to Japan. Got one for myself at home when the bathroom was up for renovation. Now I am dreading any work trip to not-Japan because I’ll have to shit like a barbarian for that time.

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    I know corporate overlords wish there could be, but I don’t think we’re at the point of having someone in there with you to check that you’re actually pooping just yet…
    So poop at home, then just sit there and catch up on your scrolling on company time…

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      4 months ago

      Do you guys have that much control over when and where you poop? I see this idea of “just hold it in until you get to your preferred location” fairly regularly and that seems insane to me. It’s not like my poops are an imminent emergency every time but I definitely couldn’t hold it in more than an hour or maybe two on the high end, and that would be pretty uncomfortable. That’s not enough time to get home in many cases. In other words, when it hits, I shits.

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        I generally go once in the morning (going from being horizontal in bed to being vertical out of it usually does the trick) then I’m done for the day. But even if I have to go again I can generally hold it at least for a bit unless it’s a food poisoning type situation… ¯\(ツ)

        But then, digestive systems vary widely, so all that matters is what’s normal for you.

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          4 months ago

          This sounds like heaven to me. Pure. Heaven.

          -Crohn’sGang

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            I actually have IBS so I feel your pain, to some extent anyway… For most of my life I was not regular and would go anything from once every few days to several times a day, but then at some point, it just… Regulated? I don’t know how or why, I wish I could give some advice, but it just happened

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            UC cousin in the house. I got a cheap bidet seat, loved it, and ended up splurging for the full on Toto, automated, temperature adjusted, and air dry bidet. If THAT’S not heaven, it’s awfully close .

            Seriously, you’ll practically weep with how much less miserable a flare up is with one of these nearby.

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              4 months ago

              I have the seat attached unit as well. Maybe next year I’ll work out a way to budget in the full deal.

              It sure does sound good.

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        I am not a Doctor.

        At the risk of providing TMI, one way to go is to basically schedule it by training your body to go at consistent times of day. Eventually, your circadian rhythms and your bowel work together and you’re on track. More from actual doctors here; advice is for constipation but the gist is the same.

        Edit: strong coffee with breakfast really helps.

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        I can control it. However, the indignity of pooping like a savage without a bidet is far preferable to the discomfort of flexing my sphincter all day.

        I wish I was like my wife who just wakes up and poops right away. But alas I don’t get going until after my second cup of coffee.

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      to check that you’re actually pooping

      AI will do that soon. Until then, managers can ask employees to donate vacation hours to make up for people who take too long in the bathroom.

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        AI will do that soon.

        I guess pass that hurdle when we get to it…

        managers can ask employees to donate vacation hours to make up for people who take too long in the bathroom.

        They can ask lol

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    Using just toilet paper is like if a bird shit on your arm and you used toilet paper to wipe it off. There’s still shit on your arm - you’re still dirty and need to wash it off. Bidets are really superior in every way.

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      I mean, If a bird shit on me, I wouldn’t consider myself clean if I just hosed it off with water either. Soap needs to be involved. Bidet or TP is just a stopgap until you actually wash your ass. With soap.

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      Using a bidet is like a bird pooped on you and you just splashed that shit all over the place and got everything wet.

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          Did YOURS? Where I’m from, if you’re playing in the water but the dishes still have food on them, you’re in trouble.

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    I’ve always wondered, why aren’t Bidet Showers(aka the bum gun) more popular in the west? Should be a far more cheaper and similarly hygienic option no?

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        It’s only a pain in the ass if you set it to powerwash.

        They’re great cause you can aim from multiple angles, though I hear toilet bowls in the US fill with water way higher so getting it down there and not touching the turd water might be a problem.

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        toilet seat adapters

        Do you mean bidet toilet attachments? Seat adapters only shows seat cushions and children’s seat adapters. Bidet attachment’s a really good investment, a cheap way to get the Japanese comfort and hygiene. Sadly didn’t see anything of the sort in NY & NJ.

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      I don’t have too much experience with this style, so this is probably completely unfair… but I lived with a guy for a bit who brought his own portable version that hooks up to the sink… and dude would constantly leave water everywhere no matter what we’d tell him. So I def prefer the in-seat style based on my lack of trust for the humans using them.

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        4 months ago

        As someone who has used both the bidet shower and the in-seat style, you’re right. The bumgun tends to be more messy. Your hand will also tend to get wet, but not necessarily because of splashback.

      • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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        Are you kidding?? I would never use a public bidet. Even the thought of one is appalling. I feel like people that love a bidet don’t understand how bacteria work.

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      Our bathrooms aren’t set up for that in the US at least. The floor is often wood or fake vinyl wood. The only part of the bathroom that is waterproof is the shower/bath.

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    I generally carry a portable bidet when I travel for this reason. But yes, I’m traveling in Japan right now and it’s great. Also the fact that the bathrooms are clean.

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      Baby wipes are a life saver where bidets aren’t common! But please please don’t flush them people, most plumbing* isn’t built to handle them (even if it says flushable on the back).

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    4 months ago

    So true. I was just at a client site yesterday, forget bidet, the stall walls barely even cover below the knees and above the shoulder, plus have inch wide gaps between the walls and doors. May as well just poop in the sink.

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    4 months ago

    The bidetphilia is strong at lemmy, which never ceases to amaze me.

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    I’ve used many a bidet, and I had one installed before eventually removing it.

    Isn’t it kind of gross to have shit-spackled water being sprayed around a larger area of your undercarriage? I enjoy a nice bidet, but it just kind of seemed gross to me. You wipe clean, then whatever fecal matter and microbes are left then get sprayed onto your taint? That doesn’t really help things much.

    Do what I do: only poop in nearby businesses so you never pollute your toilet, and then immediately come home and take a shower.

    The nozzle needs to be constantly sanitized, or you’re basically just letting shitty water be sprayed on you. Studies have shown that regular use of a bidet disrupts healthy vaginal microflora.

    Pregnant women should especially not use a bidet.

    Even a constantly (every use) sanitized bidet is generally less sanitary than proper wiping. Using a spray of water to handle fecal material is very obviously suboptimal. I feel like it’s absurd that people need to be told this. You might “feel” cleaner, but you just allowed bacteria a vehicle to spread over a larger area of your body.

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      Curious why you feel its absurd people need to be told this? Even in the the study you linked, they note in the discussion

      It is of great surprise to find that detection of fecal bacteria was prejudiced against the bidet toilet users.

      Still a concerning study to me, since I’m a habitual bidet user. Fortunately I don’t need to worry about vaginal microflora. Furthermore, I could only find this one small study that shows correlation (not necessarily causation), so I’d be hesitant to immediately regard bidets as less sanitary than wiping, especially for men.

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        Fecal bacteria were detected in 50 of the 268 cases (18.66%), 46 cases in users (92%) and only 4 cases in non-users (8%). Contamination by other pathogens was 4 to 6 times higher in users than in non-users.

        It sprays shit around. I guess to me, that just seemed obvious. But I hear what you are saying to me. It even surprised the researchers, so why would I be surprised that other people find it surprising.

        I take your point. It seemed very obvious to me after installing one, but I’m being rude by assuming knowledge. Thank you for correcting my attitude.

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          That’s not very nice to say. I’m not being obtuse – the writers of the article you linked it even said themselves they were surprised that the bidet-users had more fecal matter. I don’t poop on my bidet, and regularly clean it. You’d think that the jet of water plus wiping would get more fecal matter off your butt rather than wiping, alone. Dang. I’m just trying to have a conversation.

          • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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            I corrected that comment almost immediately, and I apologize. You are absolutely right, I was being defensive.

            Edit: I’m not an asshole, I swear. I saw that you were honestly engaging and I felt bad immediately and revised the comment as quickly as I could.

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              I gotchu, it happens. No worries. You’ve definitely piqued my (admittedly gross) interest – I’m gonna do some more research after work and I’ll look out for your link.

              Good luck on zoom!

      • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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        There are several more studies. That was just the one I was mentioning because it relates to serious health concerns for pregnant women.

        For men, perhaps less of an issue, but I’m just generally in favor of keeping fecal matter as localized as possible and cleaning myself regularly. I would never take a shower where the shower head sprays up from the floor, you know what I mean? I wash top down, paying special attention to the stinky and the dirty areas, and I clean myself with the idea that everything I’m washing off is going down, into the drain. Not up, back onto my body.

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      It’s fresh water from the plumbing that gets sprayed on your butt. Like having a butt-exclusive shower with CLEAN water. I don’t think you can even buy bidets that recycle shit water to spray your butt. That sounds awfully unhygienic. Are you OK, friend?

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      I’m being downvoted for pointing out that numerous studies have shown that the bidet is not the hygienic dream you all hoped it was?

      You all are some weird people with more funk downstairs than I want to think about.

      Directly from the NIH: “Kim et al. conducted a study of high-risk pregnant women with preterm labor and reported that the use of a bidet toilet was associated with abnormal vaginal colonization and increased the rate of preterm labor in high-risk pregnancies.”

      I assume you all are also anti-vax because of the 5G?

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        Can you post the link to that study? I wanna read it. Here’s one that says almost the opposite:

        Normal use of the bidet toilet by pregnant women poses no clinical health risk for preterm birth and bacterial vaginosis.

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          I’m sorry, I’m in the middle of several zoom meetings and using my 15min breaks between sessions to comment here. If you remind me about this in five hours, I would be happy to link you several studies and a meta analysis.

          Please also note that the study you’re linking is earlier than the one I’ve linked, the methodology is generally shoddy, and they, as I recall, directly reference this study in the link I’ve already provided.

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    Yeah that don’t track. I poop on company time and walk away with a pampered butt thanks to my bidet. Feels fantastic and clean.

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    Buff Girlfriend … posting about butts, poop, and bidets.

    No baiting going on at all.

    Nope.

    None.

    Buff.

    Sure.

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    Yeah. The upside down shower I use works great. I clean myself off, and the shower head between my feet keeps spraying what I’ve just washed off my body… back onto my body. Totally reasonable, no reason for criticism.

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      WTF are you on about, do you think bidets use toilet water from the bowl or something?

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      A bidet only sprays your asshole though? And it doesn’t get it’s water supply from the toilet bowl, it’s hooked up to clean water? I don’t understand why you think any of that happens.

      Edit: I read your other comments farther down, so the context changes matters. I get what you were aiming to say.

      • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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        Thanks for at least trying to understand my admittedly poorly contextualized metaphor.