Trump got his travel ban.
This is so sweet.
*They’re all shithole countries anyway. -T
You’ve got to love the irony here. He complained for years that people entering at the southern border were criminals and shouldn’t be allowed in and now essentially other countries are saying the same thing about him.
Damn, a former president is banned from entering more countries than I am. That’s fucking wild and make me feel slightly better about some of the places I’ll never see again.
Which ones and why?
I sense a fun story and I’m here for it.
Not funny at all, actually. I got a DUI a month after turning 21. Fortunately, nothing terrible happened. There are many countries that either consider a DUI a felony (Canada) or just don’t want you endangering their populace (Japan). There’s quite a list, but it’s less than 37, lol.
On behalf of my country, I’m sorry.
I honestly have no idea why Canada sees this as enough of a problem to prohibit you from visiting.
It’s not like we don’t have people here, who live here, who have DUIs. We do. Lots of them.
Honestly, while it’s bad, it’s not like you’re coming over the border while driving under the influence. It just feels like something that should, at the very least, fall off, after a few years. Like, you get a DUI in 2020, you can’t visit until 2025 or something like that… As long as you don’t get another DUI or other felony, sure, why not?
IDK. I’m just some guy, eh?
If I understand correctly, there’s a way to get permission to enter if it’s been a certain amount of time after the conviction and it was a non-violent offense.
I get it, though. Every country has the equivalent of “felons,” and they are not obliged to allow felons from outside in.
Damn that’s a shame cause japan is fun and it’s cheapish currently cause of the yen plummeting.
I spent six years there as a kid and experienced quite a bit. I really wanted to revisit as an adult, but that’s not in the cards now. I will always cherish the memories of my time spent there, and I’m glad my parents made a point to see as much of the country, people, and culture as possible.
Plummeting against what currency?
Against the US dollar and any equivalent currency.
I’ve had several friends that had duis all get turned around at the Canadian border
Right so can you guys please not vote for this guy now fuck my life 🤦♂️
Best I can do is a historic number of people voting for him a 3rd time, still losing the popular vote and standing a decent chance at winning anyway
This comment made all the dopamine leave my body at once. Now I look like Voldemort in death fetus mode, except fat and hairy
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Unfortunately there are too many stupid Americans, sorry.
Unfortunately the verdict will do nothing to sway his supporters away from him.
I’m signed up to his mailing list for fun. He described it as the darkest day in American history. I’d say roughly half of the country agrees with that assessment.
Saaaad.
Unfortunately it’s incredibly difficult to get people to leave cults.
Voting for him is voting against your own self interest… it’s like some oddly bastardized form of the Heaven’s Gate mass suicide, but slower and more political.
Now that I think about it…That comparison does feel insulting to Heavens Gate. Their leader believed in what he was preaching and he actually seemed more competent and less malicious since he killed himself too. So I guess a cult that performs a mass suicide is less harmful than trump at this point. I hate this reality so much.
Based on data from the World Population Review, here is a list of countries that do not allow convicted felons to enter:
- Argentina
- Australia
- Canada
- China
- Cuba
- India
- Iran
- Israel
- Japan
- Kenya
- Macau
- New Zealand
- South Africa
- Taiwan
- United Kingdom
- United States
The good news for Trump, is that the UAE is not on the list.
Australia? I thought it was a requirement!
You’re telling me Australia was founded by convicts, yet they won’t allow criminals in? Where is their respect for heritage?!
It’s not dissimilar to USA clamping down on immigration. Quite ironic.
Neither is Russia. It’ll make it easier for him to personally kiss Putins ass.
He’s old though. Russia is too cold.
I need a list of which ones don’t allow assholes to enter. :)
So if he does leave, he can’t come back?
I’m pretty sure it’s accepted pretty universally that countries must accept citizens back. Reason being, if they don’t, the rejected person becomes another country’s problem, and that is bad for relations.
I hope because of some weird loophole he has to live in an airport like Tom Hanks
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So, for arguments sake, he wins election. He can’t enter those countries as a nations leader?
Dear God it’ll be like Kristi Noem who can’t enter half her state because the Indian tribes said so.
Pretty sure diplomatic immunity is a thing that would come into play.
Diplomatic immunity is the inability for someone visiting as a diplomat, which would include a US president visiting another country, to be held to a crime or civil penalty, with countries welcome to expel them for abusing this. I don’t think that applies.
But a US president who is also a felon could technically be denied correctly by immigration officials, but could reach out to the prime minister to get this fixed, probably in advance.
Diplomatic Immunity is granted by a host country and by the country the diplomat came from. It’s not automatically extended. The US historically automatically grants a President diplomat authority but a country can refuse even the highest ranked ambassador if they so choose.
I might be mistaken but whether or not Trump would be admitted to a country with one of these policies it would likely go to a individual vote or decision making authority of whatever governing body runs the country whether or not to grant him a personal exemption due to his political position.
It is also worth mentioning that Trump made some really petty and genuinely awful political decisions that created a lot of hardship for some of the countries on this list. A lot of his wheeling and dealing has been picked apart in courts and actually caused the US some issues since in international trade courts. It may be entirely possible that a country with a grudge would disallow a US president entry which could be quite the setback for the US in multinational bargaining and soft diplomacy.
His ban status will change if he wins. Indian Prime Minister Modi was banned from traveling to US but that changed the moment he was elected as PM.
yep. a great example is the current president of the Philippines.
Wanted by interpol for millions (billions?) in theft and such, has international arrest warrants out for him, but they couldn’t touch him when he visited New York.
His mother didn’t join him though, because his immunity doesn’t extend that far.
Wait we don’t allow people with felonies to enter? Quick! Get trump to leave the country!
I know it doesn’t work that way but God would it be funny.
Donald Trump faces travel ban to 37 countries
That’s 3 more countries than his 34 felony counts!
Gotta pump those rookie numbers up.
Russia, maybe he goes to Russia. Putin and Trump now have the same enemy. Free western democratic justice system.
Not sure why the UK is included here - the travel ban is:
- has been convicted of a criminal offence in the UK or overseas for which they have received a custodial sentence of 12 months or more
- is a persistent offender who shows a particular disregard for the law
- has committed a criminal offence, or offences, which caused serious harm
Two of those look like something for the Home Secretary to decide, and good luck expecting the Home Secretary to make any sense.
- is a persistent offender who shows a particular disregard for the law
Yup that one right there. Textbook example
I am a convicted felon who has visited the UK. I was never questioned about it. I entered just like everyone else without it ever being brought up.
I’m sure it’s different everywhere. I once looked into visiting Canada and recall having to fill out a form or something, but never actually went.
Is he still able to vote?
Wait, are criminals not allowed to vote in the US?
Jesus fucking hell, that is not ok.
I think that’s a rule from the 1870’s mostly aimed at preventing black people from voting.
Yep, in combination with “vagrancy” laws.
Here’s how the scheme worked:
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Refuse to hire blacks for anything more than “might as well still be slavery” wages.
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Arrest unemployed blacks for “vagrancy.”
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Re-enslave them (see “except as punishment for crime” clause of the 14th Amendment) and disenfranchise them as a bonus.
Edit: BTW, I highly recommend this video, which is where I learned about this (because it sure as Hell wasn’t properly taught in my Georgia high school).
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It depends on the state
Land of the free, baby!
In some jurisdictions, in some contexts, and for different lengths of time some criminals are denied the right to vote.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/felony-disenfranchisement-laws-map
Apparently he will be able to vote as long as he doesn’t go to prison. That’s the state law of NY, and Florida’s law is the defer to the state where the crime is.
they should send him to jail for 1 day lol
Prison for 1 day, not jail.
And?
I think his state of residence is Florida.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residences_of_Donald_Trump
From his birth in 1946 until 2019, Trump listed his primary state of residence as New York; in September 2019, Donald and Melania moved their primary residence to Mar-a-Lago in Florida.[2][3] On January 20, 2021, Trump moved out of the White House preceding the inauguration of Joe Biden.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement_in_the_United_States
Florida is listed as temporarily disenfranchising felons:
Felons are enfranchised immediately following the full completion of sentences – involving imprisonment and/or parole or probation.
I don’t know when that starts, but I assume not until sentencing.
So, in theory, I guess if he’s sentenced to any of those things and the sentence extends across the election, then no, he can’t vote. If he gets probation in New York, then it sounds like he can’t vote.
But after any sentence is done, he can vote.
I don’t know for sure whether, if someone is serving time in prison in New York, whether their state of residence is changed to New York, though, or whether it just is treated as their last state of residence (which is what happens if you leave the US and vote from abroad – you vote as if a resident of the state that you last resided in). If he winds up serving time in a New York prison, which I would not expect, and if that changes his state of residence to New York, then New York law would potentially apply.
Headlines are saying “yes”, as long as he’s not in jail on election day.
Soooooooooooooooo, hopefully no.
Are felons not allowed to vote?
Depends on the state. Some states permanently revoke a felons right to vote. Some for the time that they’re actively in prison. Some do not revoke it at all.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/felony-disenfranchisement-laws-map
All he needs is russia and hes all they need
Huh. Argentina. Lots of his kind from the fatherland down there. And now he can’t join them.
But he can still visit Daddy Putin, right?
