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    Planned obsolescence is one of the major engines that keep our current system of oligarchic hypercapitalism alive. Won’t anybody think of the poor oligarchs?!?

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    Reminds me of a funny story I heard Tom Petty once tell. Apparently, he had a buddy with a POS car with a crappy stereo, and Tom insisted that all his records had to be mixed and mastered not so that they sound great on the studio’s million dollar equipment but in his friend’s car.

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      That’s how my professors instructed me to mix. To make it sound as good on shitty speakers as possible and also sound good on expensive systems.

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      Reminds me of the ass audio mixing in movies where it is only enjoyable in a 7.1 cinema or your rich friends home theater but not on your own setup

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        It seems we’ve lost sight of reality there.

        As we don’t intend to attend much cinema any more, I hope they bring back essentially a Dolby Noise Switch for movies. I don’t want to sacrifice too much, but booming noise followed by what comes out as whispered dialogue really cheapens the experience.

        I hope they can find a process that gives us back a sound track for the sub-17:7 sound system.

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          Dynamic Range Compression. VLC player has it, possibly under a different name though. Set it up on my theater pc, and I almost don’t need subtitles anymore.

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          They could add more audio tracks for different systems. Blurays support multiple audio tracks and they are almost never full.

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            I’ve always wanted to try putting something like a guitar compressor pedal in the audio chain just to normalize the peaks. My wife will find something to watch, but ends up spending half the time adjusting the volume, or just turning on subtitles.

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                I have a much simpler setup though. Just a ‘smart’ TV and a sound bar I paid about $200 for so nothing fancy.

                Not actually looking for advice, just a thought experiment of quick, easy and cheap fixes.

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      I had the same exact approach back in the late 90’s. My friends had several band projects and when they were mixing their demos, I insisted that if the mixes sound good in a standard car stereo, they’ll sound good anywhere.

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      This is still a perfectly sound method.

      Getting the music you made in your own DAW to sound good on your home speakers is almost easy. getting it to not suck on shitty speakers? that’s an art.

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      Then again my 2016 stock yaris had the best sound I ever heard anywhere.

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    Reminds me of the UK’s Government Digital Services, who want to digitise government processes but also have a responsibility to keep that service as accessible and streamlined as possible, so that even a homeless person using a £10 phone on a 2G data service still has an acceptable experience.

    An example. Here they painstakingly remove JQuery (most modern frameworks are way too big) from the site and shave 32Kb off the site size.

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        Hasn’t been linked to reddit yet probably.

        Getting away from reddit has shown me that there are unspoiled places in the digital world out there, communities of people who actually care about the topic and not performatism and internet attention.

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          a) don’t let in anyone who acts like petulant children b) give adults an outlet for occasional outbursts that would make them sound like petulant children

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      The issue with UK services is that they all are fucking random and plenty of sections don’t work. There are billions of logins, bugs and sometimes you just get redirected to some bloody nightmare portal from 1990-s. And EU citizens couldn’t log in into HMRC portal for years after Brexit, what a fucking joke! And all they do is spend time removing jQuery, good fucking job!

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      At a certain point it makes more sense to subsidize better low-end hardware than to make every web site usable on a 20 year old flip phone. I’d argue that if saving 32 kB is considered a big win, you’re well past that point. Get that homeless guy a £50 phone and quit wasting the time of a bunch of engineers who make more than that in an hour.

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        Get that homeless guy a home.

        Also, if you are in a basement/mountains/middle of Siberia, waiting for 32 kB takes quite some time.

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          I’m all for ending homelessness, but that’s really a different problem than we were discussing. I’m pretty confident jQuery isn’t stopping anyone from being housed.

          Anyway, there’s no way you’re gonna convince me 32 kB is a lot of data. It’s just not. Even the slowest 3G connections can download that much in half a second. Just the text of this thread is probably more than 32 kB. If you can’t download that much data, you only technically have Internet service at all.

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            Even the slowest 3G connections can download that much in half a second.

            Even 3G is not always avaliable, even 3G sometimes slower than 2G.

            32 KB here, 32 KB there and boom - you have bitbucket.

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              At least in the US, the reason 3G isn’t available is that it has been phased out, as has 2G. You may as well complain about how slow it is to send data with smoke signals, because 4G is table stakes for an internet-capable device now.

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                US? US is wild place. A lot of people still on ADSL, but 2G and 3G equipment is thrown away and say “lol, you problem, buy new phone”. I won’t be surprised that there are a lot of places where internet is less stable than in a train going through tunnel under the mountain in the middle of Siberia. Which means no internet.

                I wonder what happens to internet connection in rural areas of USSA, since you suddenly started talking about it.

                In Europe(or at least in my part of Europe) there are places where mobile internet is overloaded like subway system and city center and places where mobile internet is very unstable like my house in suburban area and, agan, trains.

                And, as I mentioned, bitbucket. It struggles to load even on average PC.

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                Where I live even 4G isn’t all that reliable. Making a phone call is mostly impossible and a text message is hit or miss unless I’m in a town or along a major road, This is due to terrain and the general lack of towers. 4G is spotty at best and with many areas having no service at all. And I ain’t never going to live long enough to ever see 5G out here.

                But, I would agree that while 32KB is pretty minor for an internet connection, things have a way of stacking. 32KB here, another extra 32KB there and pretty soon things can get ‘heavy’ to use.

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        Also, engieneers already had tech debt of updating to new jQuery version, which can result in a lot of wierd bugs, so it was achiveing two goals at once.

        And probably 50£ phone IS their target device.

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    When my dad died suddenly in 2015 and I cleared out his office at his job, I spun down his Win95 machine that he’d been using for essential coding and testing. My father was that programmer—the one who directly spoke to a limited number of clients and stakeholders because he had a tendency to ask people if they were stupid.

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      Your dad sounds like the childhood hero of mine who got me into computers.

      Severe ADHD prevented me from ever learning to code, but I became damn good at repairs and things and just general understanding of computers because he was available to ask questions at almost any time.

      He went to school auctions every year and got me a pile of hardware to learn from. He never asked for anything in exchange. All around great guy.

      I heard him on the phone a few times dealing with the people who he worked with though. Good god he was mean. I couldn’t imagine him being that way with me ever, but he was brutal when it came to work and money.

      A dude called him one time while I was sitting there, he listened for a few minutes and he said, “I’ve got a 14 year old kid here, he’s been doing this stuff for about 2 years. I’m gonna let him walk you through this for the 10th fucking time because you’re a goddamn idiot and feeling like a fool when you hang up the phone with a grown man isn’t teaching you any lessons. Maybe get a pen for this one because if I have to remind that a child walked you through it last time, I’m not going to be so fucking friendly.” I was so nervous, apologized multiple times, when I was finished walking him through it he took the phone and said, “now don’t you feel stupid? 25 years and this kid just schooled you.”

      He told me, “you gotta be real with idiots or they’ll bother you with stupid problems every single day of your life.”

      I wish that lesson had stuck haha, it just wasn’t in me to be mean. As a result, a hobby that I was passionate about all of my life is something I avoid like the plague now. People ruined it for me by bothering me constantly.

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        I think it’s nice of you not to be mean. The industry turned me a bit mean as a defence against people constantly shoveling more work onto me. Try to protect it if you can! I miss my lack of mean dearly.

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          I seriously have a boiling hatred for computers now because I couldn’t even be a little bit mean. I’ve snapped a few times when people blamed me for problems years after I worked on their stuff, but mostly I just got trampled on and robbed at every turn because I didn’t want to upset anyone.

          By the time I was mean enough to demand payment and things like that, I already hated it.

          My daughter is passionate about computers, so nowadays if I so much as want to tweak something a little bit I let her do it unless she don’t want to. I don’t want to burn her out too.

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            That sucks my dude, it sounds like some really shitty people ruined something you liked. So far I’ve found that the only way to protect yourself against that stuff is to set healthy boundaries. It doesn’t have to be rude, but unfortunately some people see it that way. It’s a rough time.

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    Doesn’t really matter what your developers run on, you need your QA to be running on trash hardware.

    We can even cut out the middleman and optimize unity and unreal to run on crap

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      Jokes on you, my corporate job has crippled the Mac they gave us so much that EVERYONE has trash hardware!

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    I can think of a few games franchises that wouldn’t have trashed their reputation if they’d have had an internal rule like “if it doesn’t play on 50% of the machines on Steam’s hardware survey, it’s not going out”

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      I think it’s given us a big wave of “Return to pixelated tradition” style games. When you see 16-bit sprites in the teaser, you can feel reasonably confident your computer will run it.

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        I don’t mind if indie devs try something experimental that melts your computer. Like beamNG needs a decent computer but the target audience kinda knows about that sort of stuff.

        The problem is with games like cities skylines 2. Most people buying that game probably don’t even know how much RAM they have, it shouldn’t be unplayable on a mid range PC.

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        Unless they use Unreal Engine and don’t know what they are doing. It can be pixely and run like ass.

        Octopath Traveler was the last UE based game that really ran well that I can remember.

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          Was that game any good? The mobile version had a Gacha mechanic that scared me off, but it otherwise looked like a really smooth SNES style JRPG.

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            I liked it. It’s not particularly hard or deep but the mechanics are nice, battles and encounters don’t overstay their welcome. The interwoven story was done quite nicely. I played it on PC. It runs great on Proton and Windows 7.

            I haven’t played the second one, but reviews consider it an improvement. Now that they removed Denuvo I might get it.

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    When you see what ONE coder was able to do in the 80s, with 64K of RAM, on a 4MHz CPU, and in assembly, it’s quite incredible. I miss my Amstrad CPC6128 and all its good games.

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      Still happens.

      Animal Well was coded by one guy, and it was ~35mb on release (I think it’s above 100 at this point after a few updates, but still). The game is massive and pretty complex. And it’s the size of an SNES ROM.

      Dwarf Fortress has to be one of the most complex simulations ever created, developed by two brothers and given out for free for several decades. The game, prior to adding actual graphics, DF was ~100mb and the Steam version is still remarkably compact.

      I am consistently amazed by people’s ingenuity with this stuff.

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        SNES ROMs were actually around 4MB. People always spoke about them being 32 Meg or whatever, but they meant megabits.

        I did like Animal Well, but gave up after looking at one of the bunny solutions and deciding I didn’t have the patience for that.

        I think most of the size of games is just graphics and audio. I think the code for most games is pretty small, but for some godforsaken reason it’s really important that they include incredibly detailed doorknobs and 50 hours of high quality speech for a dozen languages in raw format.

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          I think most of the size of games is just graphics and audio. I think the code for most games is pretty small, but for some godforsaken reason it’s really important that they include incredibly detailed doorknobs and 50 hours of high quality speech for a dozen languages in raw format.

          True. Even Xonotic - opensource game - has very small game engine, but game logic and assets(maps, textures, lightmaps) are 1 gig. And same with AltCraft - small engine, but minecraft assets are huge.

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      When you see what they did in the 60s and 70s, where they ran an entire country’s social security system in a mainframe with a whooping 16Kb of memory (I’m not sure if it was 4 or 16, but it doesn’t make that much difference).

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    I knew someone that refused to upgrade the programmer’s workstation precisely because it would have been a big leap in performance compared to what their costumers used the software on. Needless to say the program was very fast even on weaker hardware.

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      Steam is full of shorter games with worse graphics made by indy devs. Guess what? No one gives a shit! Because no one needs crappy games from 1980-s.

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        Some of them are really succesful. Many people care. Others don’t.

        Here the current Steam charts. Many indie games, some few with really low specs. Banana only needs 30MB RAM. Seems to be a great game. Hostly now, why are 50k people playing that “game” currently?

        But back on topic: Yes, AAA games are more succesfull and earn much more money, but claiming “no one cares about indie” is stupid, when so many people play games like Rust, Stardew Valley, Prison Architect, Terraria, RimWorld, Valheim, The Forest, …

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          Games like Valheim and Rust are not some pixel art games which will run on a 2GB system with an integrated GPU, they’re pretty much AA games with an AA level publisher behind them. Yes, there are some real exceptions, like Stardew Valley, but you can count them on your fingers. They don’t make even a 1% of Steam catalogue. Thus my point still stands - no one cares about low end games.

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            Even if they don’t make up 1% of Steam’s catalogue (though I doubt that figure), they have had real impact.

            It’s ok to not like them personally, but to say no one cares is disingenuous. Balatro doesn’t require much in terms of hardware but is having a real moment right now. Stardew Valley has been killing it for 8 years. People have thousands of hours in Rimworld.

            Indie games are also great for community and modders.

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    The ideal is “plays fine at lowest graphics settings on old hardware” while having “high graphics settings” that look fantastic but requires too-of-the-line hardware to play reasonably.

    Generally this is almost impossible to achieve.

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    The thing is that developers tend to keep things as simple as possible and overly optimize stuff, when you find bloatware is usually some manager that decided to have it.

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      It’s the marketing. Always the marketing. Especially the SEO guys.

      One SEO guy we worked with told us not to cache our websites because he was convinced that it helped. He badgered us about it for weeks, showed us some bullshit graphs and whatever. One day we got fed up and told him we’d disabled the cache and he should keep an eye out for any improvements in traffic. Obviously we didn’t actually do anything of the sort because we are not fucking idiots. Couple days later the SEO wizard sent us another bunch of figures and said “see, I told you it would help I know my stuff”. He did not, in fact, know his stuff.

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        Couple days later the SEO wizard sent us another bunch of figures and said “see, I told you it would help I know my stuff”. He did not, in fact, know his stuff.

        Ahaha no way.

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      The thing is

      Of course, we developers like to optimize and patch source code all the time. If I am suddenly woken up at three in the morning, I will immediately open the lid of my laptop and start optimizing the code. That’s our little developer secret.

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      I was going to laught at the hypocricy of you using lemmy, definitely not using your TRS-80 but I don’t trust my phone, the lemmy app or lemmy server either.

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        Trash 80 dialing in to a Linux shell account using one of the various cli lemmy clients should work

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    I think that every operating system needs to a have a “do what the fuck I told you to” mode, especially as it comes to networking. I’ve come close to going full luddite just trying to get smart home devices to connect to a non-internet connected network, (which of course you can only do through a dogshit app) and having my phone constantly try to drop that network since it has no Internet.

    I get the desire to have everything be as hand-holdy as possible, but it’s really frustrating when the hand holding way doesn’t work and there is absolutely zero recourse, and even less ability to tell what went wrong.

    Then there’s my day job, where I get do deal with crappy industrial software, flakey Internet connections and really annoying things like hyper-v occupying network ports when it’s not even open.

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      You could make your own smart devices. You don’t even need to be smart in embedded systems these days either. Just use a cheap SBC.

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        Yeah, I’d love to, but first we have to tell that to Rockwell, Siemens, Bosch, ABB, etc, etc. All the proprietary software runs on Windows. Not to mention getting my company on board when we’re already heavily into the Microsoft ecosystem at the corporate level.

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          It kind of baffles me that people are still invested in Microsoft at a corporate level considering the costs associated with it.

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            The corpos don’t really care and want someone to blame if things go wrong, that’s why they often use proprietary alternatives.

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    I’m training to work in hardware currently. Its my hope that there at least, people still care about min-maxing power vs performance.

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      My understanding is that hardware companies usually alternate generations: one for performance, one for power. It seems like this is the balance that makes the market happy.

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        Wasn’t expecting it to be easy. Think it will be much more rewarding though. Already has been thus far.

        Edit: wait, that was a pun, wasn’t it?

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          Any recommendations for a beginner or hobbiest? I’m going to assume it goes beyond writing more performant code

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            A lot of it is in the design stage tbf. If features/UI can be cut or simplified then it can make a big difference. Performant code is good and the tech stack you choose also matters.

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            I started with raspberry pi zero projects. Specifically projects that make use of various GPIO hats like cameras, displays, speakers, etc. At that level, things are still very abstract compared to bare-metal firmware, but you learn some of the basic principles of I/O. Next plan is to read up on circuit design, and start doing more projects with arduino-controlled breadboards.