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Blizzard@lemmy.zip to Mildly Interesting@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

Bought a new pack of a hair product which now uses 6% less natural ingredients and is no longer vegan

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Bought a new pack of a hair product which now uses 6% less natural ingredients and is no longer vegan

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Blizzard@lemmy.zip to Mildly Interesting@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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    My bet is on beeswax for the non-vegan ingredient.

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      You would be right. I have the same packs. I don’t know if I bought old stock, but I bought the pack with the blue lid recently, the black lid pack is older.

      The black lid pack contains bee wax and more water than the blue lid pack (64% vs 57% of the natural ingredients).

    • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Probably this and a synthetic emulsifier/surfactant or the like.

      • Richard@lemmy.world
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        That would be vegan though

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          It depends. Many vegans see any product that “exploits” animals as nonvegan. That includes things like down feathers, wool and honey.

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          Not a natural ingredient though.

          • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            And beeswax is an animal product.

          • Richard@lemmy.world
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            Okay, but Ephera’s comment was about the (non-)vegan ingredients.

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    “Matt” paste? Isn’t it “matte” or am I taking crazy pills again?

    Edit: What the fuck… It’s spelled differently in the UK, the US, and Canada (where I’m from). It’s matte in Canada, mat in US, and matt in the UK.

    From the Government of Canada website: https://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/en/writing-tips-plus/matte-mat-matt

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      Pretty sure it’s matte in the US, too

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        Seconded. Literally have never seen it spelled mat.

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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          “Mat” is a small rug usually for wiping shoes on. “Matt” is a boy’s name, short for Matthew. “Matte” means the opposite of glossy.

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            Mat is a man with no arms and no legs on the floor

        • Moneo@lemmy.world
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          Colour me surprised, at least you greybeards have honour enough to spell some words correct.

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            ‘u’ died with the Queen. Have yo no respect?

    • Anticorp@lemmy.world
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      It’s definitely matte in the USA.

    • papalonian@lemmy.world
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      Thirding the notion that it’s definitely not “mat” in the US. A mat is something you put on the ground, Matt is my cousin’s ex-fiance, and matte is a surface finish with little to no shine.

      Really don’t know what people say English is hard to learn, we use the same word for so many things that there’s fewer words to learn /s

      • Zerlyna@lemmy.world
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        Why waste time say lots words when few words do trick?

        • papalonian@lemmy.world
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          Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

    • Steve@startrek.website
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      USA here- matte

    • steal_your_face@lemmy.ml
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      It’s matte in the US. I think the manufacturer is just being silly

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      From the UK. I’ve never seen matte spelled as matt. CA, UK and AU are generally pretty close with spelling, whereas the US is usually off doing its own thing. It’s a similar thing to blonde and blond.

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        Blonde = female; blond = male

        • samus12345@lemmy.world
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          What if they’re non-binary?

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            Blondə

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              Blondx

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            If they’re non-binary, you’re going to be so anxious about using the right pronouns that you won’t even notice their hair color.

            Edit: it’s a joke answer, people, in response to a joke question. It’s not made at the expense of any marginalized individual or group. The only people who would be anxious about the situation are allies; the 'phobes don’t give a shit. Untwist yer knickers.

            • samus12345@lemmy.world
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              Being considerate just takes practice.

        • Steve@startrek.website
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          Excuse me wtf

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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            I shit you not, that is the etymological distinction between the two.

            How strictly that distinction is observed is an open question.

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          I thought it was blond = hair colour and blonde = person with blond hair.

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      Yep all 3 are valid, matte is the new variant. https://www.etymonline.com/word/matte#etymonline_v_9722

      And I’ve seen all 3 in use in the USA. It’s not matte = Canada. I’ve seen matte more than mat which is historically the spelling. The oed doesn’t list matt as the proper spelling but who knows with the brits.

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        Chamber’s dictionary has it as “Mat, or Matt, or matte” stating that it comes from the French “mat” or the German “matt”, so fuck knows where matte comes from!

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          Probably my Stavanger-dialect in Norway. It’s matt in Norwegian, but matte in my dialect.

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          The American spelling “matte” probably comes from the spelling “mate” derived from French “mate”, and doubling the “t” to differentiate it from “mate”. The British spelling “matt” was probably primarily influenced by the German word “Matt” considering the UK tended to have more German influence.

          Alternatively, either (or both) may be an etymological spelling from Latin “mattus” (which means “drunk” but likely became a word for “pale” in French).

          While I am a linguist, I only deduced this from a bit of Googling and a lot of speculating, so don’t take my word for it…

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      Now I’m not saying anything, but I dated a Matt, and he did produce a lot of paste… I’d have to run the numbers to see if it’s viable for mass-production though.

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        Hmm, did you try it in your hair though?

        • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.world
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          … no comment

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          Mary did

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      I’m like 90% sure it’s matte in the UK.

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      deleted by creator

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    Poor matt

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      I’m the non vegan ingredient.

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      Matt’s just fine, what do you think they made the paste out of? “Is that hair gel?”

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      Door mat

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        Format

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          You’re Matt

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            Who is Matt and why did they turn him into paste for the attention of surfers?

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              They didn’t turn him into paste… It’s the paste that Matt…uh…produces.

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            More fat

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              Black cat

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          Floormat

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    It looks like the 91% natural ingredients version has benzyl alcohol as a preservative which is typically synthetically derived and in my experience can drastically shift the bio-based ratio.

    As far as I can see, the rest of the ingredients are the same, but the sourcing of those ingredients could be different which could also shift the naturally derived percentage.

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      Isn’t that stuff bad for your hair?

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        I haven’t heard that before but I don’t work on hair care products very often. Benzyl alcohol is used as a preservative in lots of cosmetic products though. It can be considered an allergen for some people, but overall it’s pretty safe (as far as we know so far).

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    Who’s Matt and how come you’ve got his paste?

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    I wouldn’t even be surprised if this is just a shift in marketing. The “Vegan” label, in particular, has fallen out of style as more and more men become obsessed with meat-based diets.

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      It’s some kind of hair gel, you don’t eat it.

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        It says paste right there though.

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    No more shiny cap either.

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      Matt paste, matte cap

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    I think you might have gotten old stock when you bought a ‘new’ tin. When I look on their website, it only has the vegan formulation listed, and the ingredients do appear to be derived from non-animal sources.

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    Damn, I guess you will have to find a new hair product to eat.

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    Welp, looks like I won’t be licking your hair anytime soon you monster.

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    You are showing them backwards - the NEW formulation is the one that says vegan. Did you buy the second one at Big Lots or something?

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    I save my ear wax and just reuse that for hair paste. You need one of the gyroscope cleaners though to get enough wax.

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      gyroscope cleaners

      You have my attention…

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        Sit on it and spin buddy

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    “Now made with actual bitch beach boys!!”

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    I might be the non vegan ingredient.

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