Alexa picked up you saying Alexa, then heard the Google’s compliment, which it mistook as having come from you. It wasn’t responding to Google, nor did Google activate it.
You’re probably right in the first half, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if interactions between voice assistants are special cases that are accounted for by the programmers as a little bit of an Easter egg
They probably interact more through zeroconf/avahi/mdns than speakers and mics. I think both devices have some implementation of blue tooth low energy network mapping. They know about the other smart devices in your home.
There was a Superbowl commercial for Alexa that sounded funny. Every time they said Alexa it sounded robotic. I guess they scrambled the voice just enough for the real units to not respond. Also, the first time they said it… It was subtle, but they said “Lexa” and not “Alexa.”
South Park did an episode about this like ten years ago.
I think it’s possible. At least in the past I could ask Google Assistant on my phone to “talk to Siri”.
Although I couldn’t test it as I don’t have an iPhone.
I like that you think this is me.
I don’t, it was a “royal you”.
You must be fun at parties
/s
I don’t really go to parties. Not my scene. Unless you mean ttrpg parties.
I was joking, isn’t that what Redditors always comment, when someone debunks something fun?
Wasn’t trying to infer anything, sorry if it offended you.
Not only you, the party scene hasn’t seen me dancing for a long time.
Well, this isn’t Reddit.
/s
WHY do (able) people let these things into their houses ??? i will never understand !!!
It’s convenient to ask for the weather and set a timer by a voice command.
Tech companies are selling these devices at a loss because they think people are going to buy things by a voice command. But I think mostly people just use them for setting timers and other banal purposes.
They don’t actually spy on people, that would be extremely easy for anyone monitoring traffic from the device to know if it was happening. The reports about tech companies advertising things people talked about in front of a inactive home assistant device have an even more creepy explanation. These things happen because the tech companies know what you’re likely considering buying because they know your purchasing history of nearly everything you’ve ever bought in the past.
Like that time 10 years ago that Target sent baby coupons to a man’s teenage daughter before the man knew she was pregnant: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/
Yeah shit like that is why I don’t use customer loyalty cards. But I guess the credit card companies are probably selling my data anyway so maybe it doesn’t make a difference.
Omg lol I didn’t even know I could purchase stuff with the google home. I wouldn’t anyway because that’s silly to me but that’s funny if you’re right about it being their intent (I don’t doubt that you are). I got my google home for free or very cheap with my music streaming account.
I don’t know about google home, but with Alexa they had advertisements with Alec Baldwin (before the incident) buying socks using Alexa. It probably made a lot of sense to someone like Jeff Bezos because money is nothing to him. So just saying “Alexa order me some socks” without even looking at a price makes a lot of sense to a billionaire.
But yeah… for everyone else it’s just a “remind me in half an hour to check on the roast” kind of device. I think it’s kinda funny they invested a lot of money into developing devices that are only slightly more convenient than setting an egg timer.
Google home is pretty good for music. You can cast YouTube or Spotify or any web page to any devices in your house. I have 5 scattered throughout my house and play music when I clean. Also controlling smart lights is pretty awesome.
Yeah I used have an Alexa and it controlled the lights… until it didn’t. Enshittification, I guess.
Remotely controlling your thermostat. Swoon…
To be fair, if you own a smartphone, you already carry one of these devices with you everywhere you go.
Not if you disable all voice commands and use something like GrapheneOS (maybe even with stock android and ios when disabling all voice commands but I wouldn’t count on it)
Graphene is available on a very limited set of devices so that’s a very, very small minority.
True, but the comment I’ve replied to talked about smartphones in general. My point was that it is possible to avoid being stalked.
Lol, that is an illusion if you don’t think you’re being tracked
Yeah, that’s why I said that “smartphones in general” don’t have a graphene os build available.
thats not grapheneos’ fault tho. blame the oems
are you saying i secretly have amazon alexa installed on my grapheneos phone ? oh my!
OK Google/Siri is built into every smartphone, genius. They have the same spying features as Alexa.
not my phone ;)
I literally have a smart phone on my person 24/7. I don’t see how a speaker in my home is any worse. Plus they’re not constantly recording.
they quite literally are recording constantly. how else can they detect the trigger phrase? they only difference is that they are supposed to delete these recordings after the phrase isnt heard. but who’s to say that one of these devices is really doing that? it could include these recordings in it’s next request to amazon’s headquarters.
regardless of what your phone does, having 2 recording devices is worse than 1. especially if they are owned by 2 separate companies. but if u disagree, why dont u livestream your computer screen 24/7, since microsoft is already recording that anyway…whats the difference?
every new internet-enabled microcomputer is another attack vector, and every less one is more peace of mind. there’s a reason most security-minded people dont live in the bush, every choice is a compromise, and i choose somewhere between being able living in society and having a recording device in every room.
also, you should consider using a free and open source mobile os if youre not already…
they quite literally are recording constantly. how else can they detect the trigger phrase? they only difference is that they are supposed to delete these recordings after the phrase isnt heard.
Imagine you look at every frame of a video. Are you capable of detecting if one of the frames of video has a bird in it without saving anything? Of course you are. That’s how Alexa works. Stop falsely claiming it does anything else without proof. I’m all for criticizing Amazon but do it for legitimate things. We don’t need to resort to fear mongering and lies to take them down. There’s plenty of valid shit to accuse them of.
but who’s to say that one of these devices is really doing that? it could include these recordings in it’s next request to amazon’s headquarters.
Because people analyze the network traffic.
regardless of what your phone does, having 2 recording devices is worse than 1.
This is just goofy at this point. I’m not trying to convince you personally to put an Alexa in your house. I’m just saying that it’s a miniscule marginal amount of extra privacy loss at worst. It shouldn’t surprise you people are interested.
Stop falsely claiming it does anything else without proof
I’m claiming it could, and that there is an incentive. for the same reasons that people use open source software.
There’s plenty of valid shit to accuse them of
then do your part to accuse them of those things instead of defending them here.
Because people analyze the network traffic.
did you read my reply ? it could store the recordings and bundle them with an innocent request, encrypted even. unless you have physically looked inside the device and checked that it is incapable of doing this, you are simply trusting a company’s word.
I’m not trying to convince you personally to put an Alexa in your house
and…I’m not trying to convince you personally either. that statement is pointless. we are having a “discussion”. my opinion is that people should care more about these issues, especially when you see things like the original post.
There’s plenty of valid shit to accuse them of
then do your part to accuse them of those things instead of defending them here.
I don’t see how saying they’re a bad company worthy of criticism isn’t “doing my part to accuse them” lmao.
what criticism do they deserve ? youre not making any actual statements
Don’t turn this into a purity test. Amazon is a bad company worthy of criticism.
it could store the recordings and bundle them with an innocent request, encrypted even. unless you have physically looked inside the device and checked that it is incapable of doing this, you are simply trusting a company’s word.
Plenty of people have done just that; And discovered that no, Echo devices do not do that. Also audio recordings are big, so the folks who have done proper network analysis would probably have noticed such a thing.
Echo devices have two computers in them: One that only listens for the wake word and activates the second computer. A second computer that does the actual relay and processing for the voice commands.
Claiming they’re always recording is just unnecessary fearmongering
Because it actually can help.
I have light switches that don’t turn on main lights when I walk into the house. Smart devices allow me to be physically safer in my house.
I can have my ac system not run full blast when I’m not home, I can save money.
I can see who is at my door and communicate with them without physically opening the door, therefore, I don’t have to draw my gun if stuff is sketchy.
Think about disabled people, they can easily control their space with just about any device.
I am NOT a defender of big tech, but there are use cases where it can improve your life immensely.
For the first one, you should look into some z wave light switches; I have my house wired with them and then I setup triggers for things like “double tap this switch up to turn on the whole room” and “double tap this switch down to start a bedtime routine”
- i dont know what u mean with this one.
- turn it off before you leave the house, it takes 2 seconds.
- use a peephole, a window, or even a camera which isnt connected to the internet.
- i specificed ‘able’ people for this reason. i know disabled people will find these devices useful.
- we clearly have different definitions of ‘immensely’…
The fuck is going on with this comment section glorifying Alexa/google home like that. A smartphone being the same as a corporate listening device? Wtf. And you are the one getting downvoted by someone who has their account on a programming instance. Bizarre.
A smartphone being the same as a corporate listening device?
I might have got the wrong end of the stick here, but are you insinuating the smartphone is the lower privacy risk?!
I mean, hypothetically if one is being used nefariously why not the other, it would be a hell of a lot harder to know a smartphone was spying on you than a smart speaker. Even people running phones with supposedly private OSes like graphene still typically have several black boxes running blobs of proprietary code (the modem being the big elephant in the room).
A smartphone is a much bigger risk to your privacy than a smart home speaker. It can do anything the speaker can do, but with magnitudes more processing power and a load of extra sensors. Plus you carry it with you everywhere and it’s constantly broadcasting your whereabouts to every cell tower nearby that’ll listen.
FWIW, people have been trying to find evidence of these speakers spying on us for like a decade now, if they actually were, it would have been found and we’d all know.
lack of tech literacy or security conciousness and a dependance on unnecessary devices which build habits such as forgetting to turn off the ac
Oh good, the AIs are falling in love. And since they’re all female presenting, it’s only a matter of time before the GOP goes after them for being gay. Isn’t living in hell the best.
Ok hear me out, we let the GOP fight big tech over lesbian AI, whoever wins gives us one less big problem to deal with, we’d lose out on sapphic robot love but the upsides are huge
Don’t worry, there’s still the fanfic forums for sapphic robot love
Oh that was only seven years ago. A more innocent time.
Nono, this is american time. 12/25/17 means 17th December 2025, so it’s technically from the future.
So much edge.
watch out that you don’t cut yourself 😘
Ok, so I’m bothered by how much smart devices listen in as much as the next person. But if they said alexa in the question then she will be listening.
Imagine being scared when you could instead be setting them up on cute robot dates.
A post from 7 years ago
2017 wasn’t 7 years ago no I don’t believe you
Sorry to break it to you. 1990 wasn’t 20 years ago, 2000 wasn’t 10 years ago.
BEGONE DEMON
1990 wasn’t 20 years ago
Well yeah, it was much more recent, right?
So they are always listening.
Not if ‘Alexa’ is the wake word.
Yes, if it has a “wake word” how does it know when the word is being said if it’s off
For Echo devices there’s a separate system that listens specifically for pre-programmed wake words only.
It’s why you can’t choose a custom wake word, but have to pick between “Alexa, Amazon, Computer, or Echo.”
One time I was watching The Matrix. During the part where Morpheus explains everything and he said “What is the Matrix?” my phone piped up and started answering even tho there was nothing even close to sounding like “ok google” before that.
That’s because Morpheus actually says OK Google before that, but in white font
His true power.
let them fight
I’ve wondered if there’s a way for political campaigns to take advantage of all the smart speakers by mixing in that old school approach of rolling through neighborhoods with loudspeakers on their cars. Step 1. Make a campaign ad Step 2. Upload the ad to Amazon music library Step 3. Cruise around saying, “Alexa, play campaign ad for…” through the loud speaker
