New York police have defended their actions after a bystander was shot in the head as two officers tackled a fare-evader armed with a knife in a busy subway station.
The man was in critical condition after the shooting at Sutter Avenue L station in Brooklyn on Sunday afternoon. Three others, including the suspect, were wounded.
Wait so did they find the knife? I was reading reports they couldn’t even find a knife.
Edit: yup, no knife
The police said on Sunday that a knife had been recovered and posted a picture on social media. The next day, however, it posted another message saying the knife had been taken from the crime scene by an unidentified man
I will point out that the story has a body cam screenshot showing the knife, presumably in the suspect’s hand.
The clothing in the picture doesn’t match the clothing the suspect was booked in. So it’s still in question.
You mean the NYPD would just go out there on the internet and tell lies?!?
Yeah, not surprised.
bystander was shot in the headPolice shot innocent bystander in the head.
FTFY
The reporter actively chose to give the police a pass by using passive voice here. “Bystander shot in the head” sounds like something that just happened or was unavoidable when we’re really dealing with “Police shoot innocent bystander in the head while subduing fare evader.” I mean, fuck, how hard is it to have basic police accountability?
Hey, it’s their fault for being in the path of that bullet traveling at 1200 feet per second. They had 0.0133 seconds to move out of the way. They made the decision to keep standing in a dangerous spot
(/s in case that wasn’t clear)
And said bystander is in critical condition.
I think “Police shot innocent bystander in the head by accident” accurately captures the situation. The police were the ones who did it, but they didn’t do it on purpose.
The passive (or exonerative) voice in that article is infuriating. Police tackle the suspect, but the bystander was just “shot in the head”. By whom? Hard to say when you’re licking boots.
Clearly he was shot by the knife!
Which is why I always bring a knife to a pillow fight!
I’ve lost many friends…
But you’ve yet to lose a pillow fight.
Focus on what’s important.
Sometimes headshots develop spontaneously. It’s a rare condition, but convenient. Some claim John F. Kennedy suffered from this condition.
Getting shot for the crime of someone else jumping a turnstile, classic
“You saw him - he had a gun”
“Make no mistake, the events that occurred… were the results of an armed perpetrator”
No, your idiot cop shooting someone in the head was the result of your idiot cop shooting someone in the head.
Yeah, 100% the cop’s fault. If a person feels it’s better to shoot an innocent bystander in the head than risk being stabbed, then they’re in the wrong line of work. Get out and let someone with better judgement have a go.
Public transit should be fully funded and free and accessible for all to use.
I would also accept a “pay what you want” system. Wasting money on enforcement of $3 fares is idiotic.
But think of the oil and gas shareholders!
Ahh yes clearly the only sensible solution to a man
taking the tube‘riding the subway’ without paying for a ticket is to pull out your Big Gun™️ and shoothimsome poor fucking random guy in the head fuck my life bro holy shitwas shot
We need to rename “passive voice” to “police voice”.
“executed by state personel without trial or due process” is more accurate. We should just call police “government agents” .
ACAB
fucking apparently ACABS (all cops are bad shots - fucking stormtrooper arse muthafuckas over here)
Does pepper spray not exist anymore?
they carry batons in a lot of countries
They carry batons here, too. And Tasers, and pepper spray, and lots of other weapons that are not guns.
The batons also fire bullets. In fact, the pepper spray and taser fire bullets too.
New York police have defended their actions after a bystander was shot in the head
This.
This is the problem already. Instead of “something happened, the officers in charge are temporarily on hold until we have fully investigated this incident” it’s immediately defending the indefensible.
I’m all for unions but fuck the police union with an umbrella. Defending workers rights is great but this is defending psychopaths, defending no and bad training, defending violence, defending an abusive system that by now has killed thousands over decades.
STIO DEFENDING THIS SHIT
Nobody said how big.
A corrupt-mayor-hiding-body-cam-video-evidence says what?
Also: “New York authorities have made reducing crime on the subway and buses a top priority following a series of violent attacks, robberies and murders. A crackdown on fare evasion is part of that push.”
One of these things is not like the others.
At this point I feel more threatened by cops than I do by whatever they’re supposed to be “protecting us” from.
They died as a hero in the war against fare evasion.
They also shot each other. Previously I would have been like maybe they should be better at conflict de-escalation and equipped with more efficient non lethal weapons (apparently multiple shots from their tasers did not work). Now I am down to more basic training, like maybe they should get better gun range training accounting for close quarters situations with bystanders?
Shooting bystanders is particularly an NYPD issue. To stop so many negligent discharges they mandated an 11lb trigger pull weight, this is about double the pull weight of normal pistols. This makes if significantly harder to shoot accurately without intense training that cops also don’t get.
I watch a lot of high speed police chase videos, kind of a guilty pleasure of mine. It’s fascinating stuff. One thing I’ve noticed is that while the State Troopers seem to have a higher level of training, when approaching a vehicle local PD will often just run up on all sides with guns out. So, you hear a lot of “watch the crossfire!” from the troopers. On the side of the road bystanders are rarely a hazard, but the same lack of positioning would surely be a hazard to bystanders in different circumstances. So yes i definitely I agree that police officers need more situational awareness training before they can use lethal force- especially in somewhere as packed as a subway station.
