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      Sort of. The same game, over and over, each time in a different colour, each time with a higher pixel density, each time a little bit worse.

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      Which is exactly why I stopped playing after Gen 2, which was the peak of the series IMO. If you want to see everything the series has to offer, just play Gold/Silver (or their remakes on the DS). No reason to waste time and money on any other Pokémon game.

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        Gen 4 was peak IMO, both the new Pokemon were excellent as well as the best remakes ever made. Gen 4 has Platinum and HeartGold SoulSilver which are the best games in the series.

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        Pokemon Black/White 1 & 2 are as close to that as you want. Great story, amazing songs that i still hum to this day, and the designs are as solid as Gen 1 and 2.

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    Next headline “Hackers disappointed that the hacked source code is apparently just the same as the last 16 games”

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    In my head this is a retribution for financing hackers that attacked Internet Archive and nobody can convince me otherwise

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      This is a conspiracy theory I’m completely behind. With all the moves Nintendo has made recently this was the first thing I thought when Internet Archive was compromised

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      You can’t patent code, and it’s automatically copyright protected. Nintendo just needs to prove they wrote the code originally, which should be easy.

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        You can patent the features that the code makes up.

        Also, Nintendo has patented features existing in other games long before, and it hasn’t stopped them. The current lawsuit against palworld contains patent claims for features they do not actually own, which is why they need 100 different lawsuits coming their way so they get a taste of their own medicine.

        They have an easy time suing one or two entities, but 100 different ones will have a significant economic impact.

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    Good. Couldn’t have happened to a worse company other than Nintendo.

    Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.

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      Nintendo aren’t the worst company. Not even the worst gaming company. Not when they have competition like Ubisoft and Warner Brothers and EA and Activision.

      Of course, if it weren’t for the presence of the aforementioned companies, Nintendo would be the worst.

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        I mean they take like 33% of that guy named bowser’s life earnings. Which are severely reduced because they also got him thrown in jail for a felony.

        That’s pretty uniquely evil

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          That’s hardly unique when damages exceed what a person can pay, wage garnishing is actually relatively common.

          Nintendo also gave Gary Bowser a warning and he signed an agreement saying he would stop his illegal activities… and then he continued anyway.

          They gave him an out at no cost and instead he landed himself in prison because he fucked around and found out.

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            I agree that bowser brought the final outcome on himself, however, that does not expunge Nintendo of guilt.

            They continue to collect their 30% or however much it is.

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        As bad as they are, EA isn’t sending lawyers to every fan project that revives their old games, they are just regular greedy, not petty greedy. Ubisoft to this day ignores Rayman Redemption too.

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        I’d say they’re not even the worst of the big three console manufacturers. The stuff Microsoft and Sony do to the gaming industry is just as bad, but that’s ignoring that they both have their fingers in a lot of other technological pies where they do some really bad shit.

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      Source code is only for HG/SS and B2W2, so we still can’t verify anything about the newer genes

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      Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.

      Wasn’t it true, but due to time not technical issues. Basically they keep redoing/remaking from scratch sprites instead of re-using them.

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        Nope. The models have stayed the same from X&Y to Sword and Shield. Only in Scarlet and Violet have they been given an upgrade.

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        Evidence wouldn’t be as concrete as source code, but there was plenty of evidence from data miners. Gamefreak kept moving goal posts when it came to why it wasn’t feasible for Sword and Shield to have all the Pokémon which is my frustration with that situation. I think they complained about the capacity of the cartridge the games were stored on was one, which was readily proven wrong. Dont quote me on that. But I do think the situation with the models was ultimately the case.

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    I mean, people have already created the majority of their good games from scratch so…

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    Love how everyone in the comments are shitting on Nintendo and Game Freak lmao

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      I swear to god, the Lemmy hive mind is even more intense than their predecessor.

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        That’s like whining that everyone hates Blizzard or Ubisoft because of some hive mind mentality. Could it be that maybe it’s just a commonly hated company based off their unethical actions over the last 10+ years?

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          Here’s the difference though: most people outside of Lemmy don’t care about Nintendo’s copyright lawsuits enough that it’s the only thing they talk about whenever they hear the name. The fact that every comment expresses the same thing is the part that feels like a hive mind. Some criticism of a large corporation is one thing, but how strongly Lemmy holds that opinion feels cultish. Blizzard’s leadership protects sex abusers and Ubisoft has had a work culture many describe as nightmarish for decades. Seeing Nintendo put on that level for something not even unique to them makes me think some of you don’t know what nuance or perspective are.

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            I disagree. Nintendo isn’t just some company that has legal beef and comparing their shitiness with Blizzard’s is like comparing apples to oranges.

            Nintendo is a litigious bully and patent troll that has a long, long list of hurting the fans that love their games. They don’t just settle for cease and desists, they historically ruin people’s lives (see Gary Bowser). What feels even worse about Nintendo is the complete misaligned of their product/ brand vs. how they treat fans. You can point to similar companies like Disney and I say that yes, I would happily cheer on any misfortune that comes to them with the same fervor as Nintendo.

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              comparing their shitiness with Blizzard’s is like comparing apples to oranges.

              That’s… what I said.

              My point is supposed to be that Lemmy acts as a though they’re the devil, when in reality they’re just the regular amount of corporate shitty. All of what you said is true, and I’m not trying to convince you it isn’t. It just feels surreal how every comment in here is the same, like it’s the same person behind every username. I get no sense of individuality here, ya know ?

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                But that whole argument follows the logical fallacy “whataboutism” to downplay X because Y and Z also do bad things. Just because you perceive something to be in line with a standard baseline of corporate shitiness doesn’t mean it’s not worth criticizing.

                As for individualism, it’s no secret that lemmy is somewhat left leaning which contributes to the general vibe. From my experience there is a lot more nuance and depth to the discussions that happen here when factoring in population size compared to other similar areas of the internet.

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            No other company aggressively goes after its fans quite like Nintendo does. Nintendo have not only gone after fan projects made by fans showing their love for their beloved games, but also gone after community-run tournaments that in no way affect Nintendo, etc. Nintendo are pretty awful.

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        I know you’re being downvoted, but I had the same thought. I see more outcry over nintendo than other companies. Yes, Nintendo has done bad things, but if I were to go back and browse Reddit I feel like the level of hate on Lemmy is much higher. I have to assume it’s due to the open source nature of Lemmy and it’s ideals.

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        Wow, everyone left another platform and were inspired to leave for the same reason, as a group. Now they’re showing extreme similarities in other ways! When will the madness stop??!

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    I’m waiting in for the headline in a couple days or so:

    Another hack at Gamefreak: Hackers upload fixed source codes

    Unknown hackers have fixed the frame rate issues while upgrading the graphics quality to the level of the earliest Switch titles like Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

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      Hobbyists have made Pokemon clones in their basement for decades. They never needed the source code.

      If I’m not mistaken, there’s an entire online RPG ran by hobbyists.

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        Maybe this was an intentional leak. Now the Nintendo lawyers can claim they’ve used stolen proprietary code?

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          Copyright of code doesn’t work that way. Now if some idiot goes and uses that code in a game, yeah, they’d have a rough time in court.

          If Nintendo thought there was infringement already, and wanted to prove it in court, there are means to securely prove it with redactions and NDA’s and so forth as it would be considered trade secret.

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        They literally never introduce any new concepts to their games I think the last new innovation in the pokemon game is supposed to allow you to have two vs two. That was about 10 years ago I think

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          I’m so so sorry to do this to you. Double battles were introduced with Ruby and Sapphire… 22 years ago…

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          I like to shit on Pokemon and Nintendo as much as the rest of them but this isn’t really true. Legends: Arceus, while not a great pokemon game overall, introduced several new mechanics, some of which then made their way into Scarlet/Violet. The biggest and best of which, in my opinion, is the ability to catch wild pokemon without battling them.

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            You have always been able to throw a ball at an unharmed Pokémon to capture it. Just had a very low chance of success unless it was either very low level or it was a great ball or one of the other ones they introduced later. But even back in red and blue you could always try it and it might work.

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              but you still had to initiate a battle. Unless you’re just playing stupid, you should go watch some Arceus gameplay to see what I mean.

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      It’s beta builds of old games. It’s only valuable to super fans who wanted to see what could have been.

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          I thought the leaker saw those and decided to not reveal too many details other than they exist? There’s a sentence about it in the article.