Impressive, I guess, but how many of those 2 million posts have a single comment? If 90% of these are just bots reposting things from Reddit with no further engagement…
The content will bring in users. I try to comment on interesting topics to help drive engagement.
This is my thoughts as well. I’ve noticed that once one or two people express interest in a post, it tends to get much more traffic
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The world could use more random ass-comments
I really just prefer genuine content personally. We don’t need to astroturf the site.
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You don’t understand how my comment is related to yours?
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I used to lurk like crazy on reddit. I had a nearly 12 year old account that mainly had a few comments here and there months apart, and only a few posts but ever since moving to Lemmy I’ve found myself actually posting relatively frequently to help build some of the smaller communities I’m in that have also migrated.
I’m exactly the same. I feel like the opportunity to have a productive conversation on Lemmy is a lot higher. There are fewer of us right now but we are the motivated minority kicking Reddit to the curb for its terrible actions and we want to see Lemmy thrive.
I still check Reddit every couple days on my laptop. I don’t think they maintained a majority of their users. Engagement is way down. Most of the posts on my front page are barely hitting 2000 updoots, compared to well over 10,000 prior to July 1
(post comment edit - if you put things inside < > as your entire post, Lemmy will eat it. Cool>
Only if the content is organic. Look at !photoshopbattles@lemmy.world . Full of bot posts from reddit with 0 comments. Even if one of them gets a comment, it would get drowned out by the subsequent bot posts. Blindly filling a community with bot posts would eventually make people unsub from it.
I’m sure those bots are well intended, but I would rather not see bots just copying posts from reddit blindly. When you sort all by new, it’s just a swamp of bot posts.
Edit: So I checked to verify my claim and most are from @bot@lemmit.online iirc and you can just block that account to stop seeing all the automated posts from reddit
It depends on the content.
Some of content really depends on OP being in the comments, like AmITheAsshole. Just reposting doesn’t give the kind of interaction that the original post would have.
Ongoing discussion—i.e., comments replying to other comments, not just posts—drives engagement as much as content. If the post-to-comment ratio is too high, active commenters are less likely to encounter each other in the sea of automated posts.
You’re doing it right. That’s exactly how to build momentum! 💪
Hey! Some of those posts with no comments are me posting pictures of cute bugs that I took! I’m not a bot, I’m just not very interesting.
Hah, that sounds like me! I started a few communities in places where I knew I could supply some OC, and so far its been mostly just me posting my stuff, but I’m stoked whenever I get comments!
I just subbed to your nature patterns community! I love the idea! I will keep an eye out and hope I can contribute some neat things soon!
And since I notice you are a gardener, you may be interested in my !beebutts@lemmy.world community. It’s about bees… and their butts… I’ve also got !awwnverts@lemmy.world for the front side of the bees, and all of their adorable invertebrate friends.
I’m subscribed to both! And I’ve tossed a couple butts your way already -
Ah! So you have! Thank you so much! (Nice butts!)
That was my initial thought. The bots are working overtime.
No doubt, it’s a chicken or egg problem.
Well the same page lists comments per day for the same period as 11,083,555. A ratio of 5.27 comments per post seems fine.
Yeah, a ratio means nothing if the bulk of the comments are only on a small portion of the posts. If 90% of the posts have 0 comments and the other 10% have 52.7 comments per post, that’s worth knowing.
And when comments are measured, you can say ‘but it’s just a small group making lots of comments’.
And when users are measured, you can say ‘but they’re just lurkers’.
Etc, etc. You can always naysay everything. This is impressive growth.
The problem is that without an effective way to ID bot content then stats like this could be covering up the real trends in human users, particularly in any stat that purports to measure all lemmy instances since we already know there are instances out there filled with thousands of bot users
“Nayyyyyy.”
“Oh boy the line went up that must mean I’m on the winning team!”
Are you saying you need outside support for your decisions?
What Lemmy needs now more than anything is commenters. If the site is to succeed, it needs robust comment sections.
I only miss one or two subs, all other places I used to engage with are here and active. I would say there are less bots here.
All I’m missing is the more niche communities to grow. It’s good to see lots of memes and engagement but a man needs more.
How do you create communities?
Go to your instance homepage, lemmy.ml then in the sidebar there should be a create community button, or if on mobile it may be hidden in the … menu button
Go to your instance homepage, lemmy.ml then in the sidebar there should be a create community button, or if on mobile it may be hidden in the … menu button
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Man, I really hope more traffic starts heading into some of the more niche communities because getting a new thread every day or there and getting 1 or 2 replies - if that - is not how you sustain a site.
Are there really that few people into cars or engineering or DIY stuff on Lemmy?! Where the fuck are my fellow car and tinkering nerds at? And no one does projects around the house? So few posts in some of the home owner communities as well.
I’ll message my dude Mark to join up, mother fucker loves anything mechanical.
Looking forward to having Mark on here
I also choose that guy’s Mark
Where tf is Mark?!?!
I am excited for Mark’s presence!
Only Mark can save us now.
Is Mark single?
No response dude, he’s stonewallin us. We might have to get creative.
I think part of the problem is finding communities.
I search for things, but they all look so small I assume that can’t be the proper one and end up not joining it. I’m not convinced I’m seeing the full list of what’s out there.
This has been super helpful for finding communities outside of my instance lemm.ee, as many of them may not be discoverable without 1st searching for the exact community link
That’s a really useful site.
I’m not sure why it’s showing such a small number when I search for it using my instance. e.g. searching for “games” shows !games@lemmy.world has 83 subscribers, while your link shows 19,400. Is it just showing the number of subscribers from my instance on there, or some number when it was first found by my instance or what?
Okay. I’m going to be stupid and ask the basic question
I’m on lemm.ee and my feed is interesting enough so if I fuck with it I could make it worse.
But let’s say I want to see more of https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy (or something smaller) on my feed how do I do that?
I was going to wait for an app and go from there. But I’m not sure which one has swam to the top of most recommended (I used rif on Reddit and enjoyed that)
Edit: I’m going to try sync. I’ll work it out from that
Just subscribe to it and it will show up in your “subscribed” feed. Should be similar on sync.
So much this! Can there really be only a dozen or so posts in a community as wide as cars? Like seriously? I must have some setting messed up.
Yeah, this is my experience with Lemmy so far: it has replaced the “all” experience for me, but all my hobby / interests subs are completely dead.
That’s ok though, because that’s how Reddit started too. They didn’t add subreddits from the start. So as long as it is providing an /all experience then I don’t see why it shouldn’t grow from there.
Please give the names of the communities. I’m not a home owner, but I love cars, DIY and tinkering :)
Yeeaah, where are these car communities? I’d post in them!
Are you me?
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I think the biggest problem with bootstrapping niche communities is that people interested in those topics have to search for and find the communities. There are a few resources for finding new communities such as https://lemmyverse.net/communities and the Reddit migration community, but it takes some effort.
I found this community finder a few days ago, and its really helped me find what I’m looking for
Yes and it doesn’t help that communities change servers or something and apparently if you don’t change the settings you lose them from your subscribed list.
Seems like a rather shortsighted way of doing things if you ask me.
Also someone posted that the same name can be used on multiple instances, so like do you have to subscribe to all of them? Why have so many? Why would that be allowed? Makes little sense.
That’s just a consequence of decentralization. That’s why all names are qualified by the instance name as well. It’s not perfect, but we’ll, on Reddit if someone picked the sub name you wanted then you’re sol and have to choose a different name, so there’s pros and cons to each. Simply subscribe to the most active version of the community you’re interested in and network effects will pick the winner.
Link to these communities.
What are some of those communities you’re in for cars and tinkering? I was subscribed to both of those topics on reddit and am looking to join. I think there are probably lots like me who are here but not quite up and running.
I used the Communities link and searched for cars and DIY and engineering and subed to any of the ones which seem to have even a little bit of traffic (in the hopes that maybe things would increase eventually). For car ones, literally just “Cars” and “electric vehicles” are the only real one I bothered to sub to. Tried looking for Subaru or WRX stuff and that came up basically empty. For tinkering there is “3d Printing” and “woodworking” but I think the woodworking one is moving servers so it might disappear. Also “Machinist” but there’s no traffic in that one. Which is the case for far too many of the ones that come up.
I think part of it is a discovery problem. Which, I know, I don’t want some algorithm telling me what content to look at, but it’s tough to find all the stuff I’m interested in just by searching.
As I replied to someone else, it doesn’t help that the content moves around. Was a post in one of the subs (are they even called subs here?) that they were changing servers which apparently would mean they’d disappear if you didn’t change your settings too. For such a simple thing, you’d think it would be automatic.
they are called communities here
Those niche communities will remain dead for years (assuming Lemmy grows and doesn’t die). It takes a long time to build these up.
Seems like every major transition from social media platform reduces that length of time for niche communities. It also took Reddit a while to get there as well. But people are already looking for identical communities on lemmy, like the tree ents
is it just me or is a lot of what a see are Linux/tech users mostly on lemmy, perhaps that could be why some niche communities haven’t blossomed here yet. I’m really big into metalcore music, but so far, there really isn’t the same type of community that rivals the Reddit metalcore version.
There are sooooo many Linux folks here, it’s crazy. Which is fine if that’s what they want to use, but yeah this site has certain groups that overwhelm others.
Agreed. Having a nice front page with a whole bunch of things is great, but not having those niche communities is rough even doing the transition
We’re near critical mass and the more we share the apps and website, it’ll pull more people in. There’s some resistance to leaving Reddit for many, but not much.
I think the main subs are at a sustainable level, but not the niche subs. But Lemmy needs more than just politics and general news and complaining about Reddit to sustain itself.
I agree completely and I think those niche subs will fill out as we grow.
Suggestion: create a post in a niche community, and then cross post into a large one.
The reason I’m yet to post any threads is because sync is yet to add that ability. But the moment it is added I’ve got a few things to post. For now I’ll continue to upvote n comment
Over half my feed is just low effort memes or auto posted arstechnica articles. Does this data include bot posts?
Half the posts are also just people specualting about activity on lemmy.
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I mean I’ve been posting Moldy Memes on the memes page. Mainly just to share my ancient saved stuff, and to help boost the meme page up with more posts. I do understand the frustration, but hopefully more, active users will come around.
My feed has zero memes (except those form !risa@startrek.website which obv do not qualify as “low effort”). I think unlike with Reddit, what you see if what you subscribe to. If you don’t like what you’re seeing, change your subscriptions. Not having Reddit force stuff into the feed is nice but it also means everyone is fully responsible for what they’re seeing.
I would assume so. But I see quite some organic content as well, with good interactions in the comment sections. I’m pretty happy. 90% of what was on reddit was of no interest to me as tends to be the case with any large content aggregator.
Half the posts since yesterday are people bitching about Sync ultra costing the same amount of money as a Costco hotdog combo once a month. 🙄
Yeah it’s quite a game of whack a mole to get rid of all those memes subs and their bot content… it’s actually worse than on reddit it seems.
Lemmy does seem to have enough content and user engagement for my needs. I’ve noticed engagement going up the past month but wasn’t sure I was making that up in my head.
I really haven’t felt the need to go back to reddit much. But the niche communities could use a lot more users posting and creating new content.
I agree but with more and more users, that will happen naturally.
I agree with this. Plenty of content on All, not so much once you start doing a deep into communities. It’ll improve with time.
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I agree with the niche stuff, but I will say I almost like having to create a post for my inquiry, and though not much engagement, what I do get is really helpful, more personal info from a few kind and knowledgeable people. So I think perhaps we should readjust our expectations and enjoy this for what it is.
I wonder how the graph will look in a month’s time now that Sync is in open beta.
As someone who never used Sync before, trust me, it will spike like crazy. I don’t know why I never used it before but this an amazing experience. If you’re reading this and trying to find a Lemmy app to use and don’t care about FOSS, get Sync ASAP
As someone who has been using sync for reddit for years, the app has come a long way and learned a lot over that time, and pretty much all of that is transferred over to the Sync for Lemmy app. The sync for Lemmy app really has a huge head start thanks to the Sync for Reddit app.
I remember when Reddit was releasing their app, they appeared to base it on Sync, and you can still see a lot of that influence today. I remember the Sync dev thinking it was all over for his app, since Reddit is copying his design and surely has a team that can develop a good app, but obviously Reddit stole a good design and ruined it.
A lot of that came from Alien Blue too (rip)
OK, convinced. Gonna try.
Would be great if all previous reddit apps went to lemmy. I personally can’t wait for Baconreader for Lemmy.
Apollo going to Lemmy would be the ultimate middle finger to Spez, especially with the false accusations of blackmail.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll keep using Sync as it’s actually good.
Lemmy is fun.
I would like to thank everyone on here for the last two months or whatever it’s been from the start of the migration, and to the people just coming over, and those who were here already. I actually feel like I’ve grown as an individual in my time here. I’m starting to see certain patterns in my own behavior and working on them thanks to the content and the engaging discussions on here. I used to avoid interaction and lost all hope, but you are all really awesome. Thank you <3
Live long and prosper homie.
We are pretty amazing. This being my second post I am a self prescribed expert. That said… you too are amazing.
☺️
I too am an expert on all things lol
You’re welcome
Everyone is much nicer here from what I’ve seen
First comment ever on lemmy! With reddit and the latest update moving shtiff around, it’s gotten to a point where I no longer want to be apart of that app. Not mentioning the money grubbing infants over there… So I’m trying this one out! Thanks for staying open and active! 👍
Welcome home!
Literally, the more the merrier.Thank you!
I’m currently using “Connect for Lemmy”. Is this what most here might recommend for Android?
Sync and boost!!!
Best OG’s with good ux/ui from reddit.
Use the app that works for you. That’s why many of us are here, because Reddit took away that option to push their shit tier official app that’s far inferior to literally every third party app I ever tried.
I really love it! Works better than jerboa on my side.
But waiting for “boost for lemmy” and I’ll see then
I am quite happy on Voyager
It really depends on your taste, you can download and try the suggestions and see which you like the most.
That being said my favourite is Voyager (wefwef.app), I have a Linux phone and need something that runs in the browser and it works great. It resembles Apollo so will also be good for iOS users who miss it
While the whole app developing situation gets going - I’m on the iPad - I’m okay using a web browser, either Firefox or Brave, with this link:
https://wefwef.app/posts/lemmy.world/allMy top 2 are Voyager and Connect.
Welcome
Was waiting for Sync upgrade and finally I’m a daily active user of Lemmy. Finally I will be useful for the community 🥂
Dead on. Sync being available makes using Lemmy much more appealing.
Moved from Jerboa to Sync. The level of customisability, attention to detail, polish, and especially performance in Sync has not been matched by any of the other apps I’ve tried so far.
The three things that really bothered me about Jerboa is the intermittent crashing when viewing comment threads, the lag when scrolling through dense comment threads, and the mis-clicks where it seemingly forgets what part of the screen I’m tapping on, and it seems more bugs are introduced each update. It was a great starting point, not so sure I’m going to miss it though.
On a separate note, I’m hoping the Sync dev finds a way to allow non-Play Store users to buy the ad removal in future
Precisely this. Sync was Reddit for me. Now, Sync is Lemmy for me.
Bingo. Just got Sync. Now it feels like home :D
Just waiting to save up for the ultra 👍👍
Sync is so good. It feels like the ‘good ol days’ of a few months ago haha.
That guy injects ads then asks you to pay to remove them.
He’s allowed to earn a living wage.
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Good app still.
Ok
He gets money from ads, or he gets money from subscriptions. Wow it’s like he’s not even trying to work for free.
Having the sync app has made the transition so much easier. I don’t know if the same level of discussion will ever happen here, but I’m going to give it a try. I’m done going to the bot farm over there
Welcome you guys, I ditched Reddit and made this happen.
Thanks!
Thank you prolific poster person
Thank you for your service.
Lurker here mostly but happy to find a new home!
Ditto! Back to hiding in the dark…
Same!
all the subreddits i love had no visible immigration to lemmy so i will have to wait a while to see the change
Happy to be here, doing my part. Thanks to all of you, that made it possible!
How does a cumulative line graph, with a running total that only ever increases, possibly descend rather than plateau?
I’m not sure exactly how the Fediverse Observer calculates the day-to-day totals, but my speculation for the dips in the graph is:
- Some of Lemmy’s servers/instances going offline could cause the total to go down;
- Post deletion could also contribute to the total going down.
These dips in the graph confused people in my previous post, as the dips were suggesting that the graph represents ‘new posts by day.’ I edited the title in the screenshot this time to clarify it is total by day.
Was gonna say the death of vlemmy probably contributed to one of those dips
Post deletions?
