Summary

Donald Trump is considering privatizing the US Postal Service due to its financial losses, a move that could disrupt shipping and push hundreds of thousands of federal workers out of government.

Citing the USPS’s financial losses, Trump argued the agency should not rely on government subsidies.

While his specific privatization plans remain unclear, Trump previously clashed with the USPS during his first term, attempting to shift control of key functions like labor relations and rate-setting to the Treasury Department.

This move could significantly alter the structure and operations of the USPS if implemented.

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    For fuck’s sake, it’s not meant to make money, it’s a public service - it’s literally in the name!

    I wish more countries governments would get their head out of their capitalistic arses and understand that the services they run aren’t meant to be profitable - that’s what taxes are meant to be for!

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      You’re going to have to get with the times. Everything has to make money or it’s scrapped including us.

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              I just need to know if it’s '80s wrestler, clergyman, or motorcycle club, I don’t really mind in any case I just need to know what voice to read it in…

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                Hmm of those choices I’m going with motorcycle club. It’s the closest for sure.

                I can probably pull off 80s wrestler in a pinch.

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        I’m no economist but at some point doesn’t that fall apart? If everything needs to be generating then aren’t we creating a vacuum at the bottom or whatever? Money has to come in and go out equally in the end, no?

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          It does, and that’s manifested in increasing labour requirements, and consumer spending.

          The US solves it by using slaves and debt.

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          The model has to change once you reach the vacuum state. Usually via violent implosion.

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    The postal service doesn’t lose money, it costs money.

    By this logic, the interstate highway system and the military both lose billions! Is Trump going to privatize them too?

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      Thats not even a true statement.

      The postal service makes money, but any surpless is automatically taken by Congress.

      In the early 2000s the GOP passed a law requiring the postal service to upfront load the retirement funds of new employees, creating a massive debt burden.

      Also, Congress has removed their ability to modernize equipment and fleets, forcing them to continue repairing aged equipment.

      Not to mention, DeJoy, Trump’s installment during his first term, has done everything he can to dismantle any modernization because he wants the Post Office sold at rock bottom prices so he can buy it, get this, because he owns competing companies.

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      Don’t forget National and State parks - public lands in general. WhY ArEn’T tHeY tUrNiNg a PRooooFiT??

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    Every thing the gop has done to the usps had hurt it more… but everytime I hear “it doesn’t make money” well it did before the absolutely idiotic idea to make sure pensions were super funded forward. Ontop of that. Why the fuck does a government organization need to make money? I hate this whole “run a country like a business” bullshit so much. Money makes everything worse.

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      USPS doesn’t lose a dime. It’s a service. It costs money to run.

      You know, like a government office does.

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      Same for public transit.

      A bit of compensation isn’t a crazy idea, but it doesn’t have to break even with the money it does bring in. It’s not like we have a ton of toll roads either, it’s not an issue to spend billions on another lane or two.

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      The GOP exists to oppose anything that serves the common good. They exist to transfer public wealth to private interests. That is their entire mandate

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        Which is why they want to privatize everything… easier to grift from. I just find it hilarious that they take full power, fuck everything up, lose power and point to things saying “see it doesn’t work!” And their lapdogs just eat it up. Yes when you cripple something it will fail, and then you blame it or the dems and hey you get to do it again!

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    Citing the USPS’s financial losses, Trump argued the agency should not rely on government subsidies.

    It already doesn’t. USPS is entirely internally funded. What a fucking idiot.

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    Oh, the financial losses that can be directly linked back to Louis DeJoy’s actions while in charge to actively sabotage the service, the same DeJoy that Trump appointed to sabotage the service?

    They murdered it so they could sell it off, don’t let them claim otherwise

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        USPS is obligated to deliver everywhere. Uncle Steve who lives out in the middle of buttfuck nowhere gets mail service just like Cousin Roger who lives in the middle of town. Shocking literally no one, having to deliver to multiple Uncle Steve’s costs way more money then it brings in.

        Then there’s inflation, and also just less folks sending mail as a general thing because e-mail is instantaneous and free.

        The pension funding requirement was the overwhelming majority of their losses, but that’s been resolved as of 2022.

        https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/06/politics/biden-postal-service-reform-law-signing/index.html

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        In 06 the Republican Congress decided USPS was too profitable and they imposed funding pensions out for 75 years.

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    Fuck the fascists. We fought the British over less tyrannical shit than what Trump is promising.

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    It isn’t a business, it is a service, it costs money that our taxes pay, so we don’t have to pay shitty private companies. (And it still makes money) “Let’s make the Mail just like ISPs” is a stupid take.

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      … it costs money that our taxes pay …

      Nope. USPS is entirely internally funded. No tax money goes to it at all.

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    doesn’t USPS have some special legal status? how are supposed to be things like court orders delivered if not by national mail carrier?

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    I’m not an accelerationist, but what’s left to do now except bathe in the worm glow of our country burning down?

    There is no arguing that America doesn’t deserve all the bad things, and maybe a good old fashioned conflagration would straighten the survivors out for a generation or two.

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      I’m not an accelerationist, but what’s left to do now except bathe in the worm glow of our country burning down?

      Well it’s certainly not enough to just luxuriate in the chaos. Every time Trump makes things worse it’s our job to point it out and explain why he’s doing it. People won’t radicalize on their own! They’ll just blame immigrants and woke and DEI etc etc.

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        Do you hear yourself? You want revolution through explaining?

        Trump supporters are not confused progressives. Trump is what America wants, He’s what America is. He’s what America deserves. Trump is more American than bullets and ground beef. He hasn’t overthrown the founders, he’s fulfilled their vision. We’re not going to change that by scolding people on the internet.

        I understand, I used to think just like you. I used to be a patriot. I’ve voted for every Democrat presidential nominee from Gore to Harris. But these days I’m writing to the State to take my name off those goddam rolls. I suppose you’ll take a dim view of that, but no bullshit about civic duty, democracy, or engagement could ever compare to the tangible material benefit of avoiding jury duty.

        I don’t wanna save America anymore. In fact I think her decline is funny and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.

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          Yeah! Fuck all the people who will be hurt and killed throughout. That’s funny!

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          Who gives a shit about Trump supporters? The vast majority didn’t vote for Trump if you count non-voters.

          Also don’t dare call me a patriot. Death to America!

          No arguments that the internet is a worthless place to educate people, though. This is just for fun.

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      Because a lot of mostly innocent people get hurt the most when it all collapses around us, and most likely you’ll also be hit by the effects of the collapse. It’s why it’s so important we work to fix the broken things and change what is wrong, and to be there for other people when things do break down rather than just wipe our hands and let the whole thing fall uncontrolled and unprepared.

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        Google says University of Technology Sydney.
        Adding “medical” to the Google search returns… University of Technology Sydney, and a health consultant in Australia.

        So… I’m going to go with University of Technology Sydney.
        While Google results have tanked the past few years, I can’t find a combination of keywords that even suggests some sort of sexual/urinary (“naughty bits”) infection.

        DuckDuckGo returns Ultimate Tennis Showdown.
        Adding “medical” suggests to add “syndrome” and got me to “Ulnar Tunnel Syndrome” (“ulnar neuropathy at the wrist where it passes through the ulnar tunnel”)… So, too much masturbation? I’m struggling to make it naughty

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          Yeah… I looked it up on Wikipedia and got similar results, plus a river… IDK what they were trying to go for.

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    Yeah, good luck with that.

    Sincerely,

    The UK, where we already had that stupid fucking idea.

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    The Postal Service is in the United States Constitution, Article I:

    Section. 8.

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    Clause 7:

    To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

    US Constitution text / archive.gov

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    Republicans wish to destroy any public service. That has always been their mission.

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    Does everything have to be a business to this guy? Some things are government services bcz they need to be done, and private businesses wouldn’t make money off it. Not everything needs to be an attempt at making money off people.