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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 5 months ago

Anti-vaccine bills pop up across the US ahead of RFK Jr’s confirmation hearing

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Anti-vaccine bills pop up across the US ahead of RFK Jr’s confirmation hearing

www.independent.co.uk

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  • ceenote@lemmy.world
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    A lot of innocent people are about to suffer so some idiots can learn what it means to say “Regulations and rules are written in blood”

    Kidding, of course. They won’t learn shit.

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      But it isn’t those idiots dying, so for them, nothing important was lost.

      Everyone going to need to make room for these thoughts and prayers.

      • floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        If bird flu gets going, it will be them dying too.

        • Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.world
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          But we already had a plague…

          Yes, but what about second plague…

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        They’re gonna blame the liberals on whatever it is I bet. Reality isn’t going to kick in. Feels like they’re so far gone.

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          These are the dingalings that blame Teh Gheyz for hurricanes, so…yeah.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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      Oh, new regulations will be written in blood 4 years from now. At least this time it will be the Americans themselves that will do the suffering first.

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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    Remember when RFK went to like fucken Samoa and held an anti vaccine campaign that ended up killing dozens of children? Then he left and just like nothing happened to him? Oh AND he denied any wrong doing. I remember.

    • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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      The Samoans remember.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      Now donvict and Brainwormz wants to bring the benefits of all that back home so that children can die HERE.

      For freedom.

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    So we’re investing billions into new AI data centers to help develop custom vaccines for people to not use; did I miss anything?

    • The Pantser@lemmy.world
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      Yes, the true purpose of AI is to replace workers, not create vaccines. The creation of vaccines was a smoke screen to get the good philanthropists to invest.

      • grue@lemmy.world
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        I was with you until the “good philanthropists” part.

    • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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      • Train AI on medical data to make vaccines

      • Replace workers with AI

      • Get people to stop taking vaccines

      • No longer need AI to make vaccines

      • Use AI trained on Medical data to make biological weapons

    • brlemworld@lemmy.world
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      No we’re investing billions so that insurance companies can have new and exciting ways to deny people’s claims and make them billions more.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      Yes, because we’ll get our chakras aligned and pray extra hard to donvict jesus drumpf instead of using all the liberal deep state elitist globalist Big Tech sciencey stuff.

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    Please do not post anything from The Independent or Evening Standard. It’s owned by Russians who could have links to KGB/FSB.

    Evgeny Lebedev is a shareholder of The Independent (41%) and Evening Standard (63%). He is a Russian oligarch, son of Alexander Lebedev who is, according to Wikipedia, a “Russian businessman, and has been referred to as one of the Russian oligarchs. Until 1992, he was an officer in the First Chief Directorate (Foreign Intelligence) of the Soviet Union′s KGB and later one of the KGB’s successor-agencies, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR).” Alexander’s net worth is ~$3 billion.

    Alexander Lebedev was a member of the state Duma in 2003-2007, had connections with Gorbachev (Radio Liberty had an article on their website where they mentioned that Gorbachev awarded scientists from the toxicology laboratory where poisons are produced to kill “enemies of the people”, but I can’t find it now, so it can be false). He was recently sanctioned by Canada (under number 820; https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/international_relations-relations_internationales/sanctions/consolidated-consolide.aspx?lang=eng).

    At that moment future PM Boris Johnson was with Evgeny Lebedev at the party in Italian villa. Nobody knows what they exactly were doing there. And when Johnson was a PM, he nominated Lebedev for a peerage in 2020, giving him a seat in the Upper House for life at House of Lords.

    P.S.: Evgeny Lebedev was also an owner of London Live TV channel, it’s was closed on January 2025.

    P.S. #2: Evgeny Lebedev “maintained friendship with Boris Johnson since the late 2000s, with Lebedev’s Evening Standard endorsing Johnson as the Mayor of London. Johnson has been reported to have attended vodka and caviar parties hosted by Alexander and Evgeny Lebedev in the UK and Italy throughout the 2010s.”

    P.S. #3: That show with Brexit in United Kingdom was when Boris Johnson was a Prime Minister. Back then, there were advertising campaign on buses, like “we just giving away to EU 350 million pounds and they give us nothing”. It seems that was a lie.

    Sources and some news articles:

    1. “Italy ‘was monitoring Lebedev villa at time of Boris Johnson’s visit. Intelligence service believed property was being used for espionage purposes, documentary claims” - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/26/italy-was-monitoring-lebedev-villa-at-time-of-boris-johnson-visit-documentary-claims
    2. “Morning after: Boris Johnson recovers from Lebedev’s exotic Italian party. Exclusive: New prime minister refuses to say if he abandoned security for 2018 night in billionaire’s castle” - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/boris-johnson-security-evgeny-lebedev-perugia-party
    3. “Lebedev could lose House of Lords seat as Labour peer launches bid to throw him out” - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/01/21/evgeny-lebedev-peerage/
    4. Alexander Lebedev on Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lebedev
    5. “Alexander Lebedev - OpenSanctions” - https://www.opensanctions.org/entities/Q370787/
    6. “Consolidated Canadian Autonomous Sanctions List” - https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/international_relations-relations_internationales/sanctions/consolidated-consolide.aspx?lang=eng
    7. “London Live (TV channel)” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Live_(TV_channel)
    8. “Evening Standard” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evening_Standard
    9. “The Independent” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Independent
    10. “Boris Johnson and Evgeny Lebedev: a decade of politics, parties and peerages” - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/21/parties-politics-peerages-boris-johnson-evgeny-lebedev-friendship
    11. “Spooking the Spooks: Media Complicity and Security Concerns over Lebedev and Johnson” - https://bylinetimes.com/2019/10/25/spooking-the-spooks-media-complicity-and-security-concerns-over-lebedev-and-johnson/
    12. “The Boris Johnson Brexit Bus Lie of £350m” - https://conversion-uplift.co.uk/brexit/the-boris-johnson-brexit-bus-lie-of-350m/
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      The KGB was replaced by the FSB (domestic) and SVR (foreign) agencies. Ach, you’re right, same shit different names.

      What about the Telegraph? I thought they are heavily influenced by bastard Muscovites.

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        I don’t have any information about The Telegraph.

        I thought they are heavily influenced by bastard Muscovites

        It’s a news outlet that was described as conservative/right-wing, so maybe that’s why it seems like that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraph.co.uk)

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    Can someone please go sneeze and cough on this man? We need for him to hurry up and die.

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      You know this man is vaccinated. I’m sure his family passed out blankets back in the day.

  • Wren@lemmy.world
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    Bets that there will be plenty of vaccines to go around in the White House. You know… just in case.

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      Which would go to show they don’t even know the basics of vaccines. Unless you give them to everyone, they will have very limited effectiveness.

      You either eradicate the virus or it will mutate in no time by the now huge (ces) pool of unvaccinated idiots

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        Yeah, but that’s just because The Ebil Elitist Globalist Scientists view us as “the herd”. They even say it: “herd immunity”!

        /s

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    This, too, shall pass. Along with many people.

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    We should be going straight to the point and helping it become more clear that vaccines are a thing these people actually do want. When they, as well as their opponents, claim that they don’t, it’s because they don’t understand the situation clearly enough.

    People who understand vaccines want vaccines.

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    Five bucks says antivaxxers are gonna find out. Another five bucks says they reinvent the vaccines for the third time.

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    Before you panic at the title, remember to read the article. It’s anti-vaccine mandates. You can still get your vaccine it seems. Until the king says otherwise.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised if we are already at the 20 - 30% on a lot of illnesses. I mean about half the country got the covid vaccine and children can already opt out of vaccinations at school with a doctor’s note.

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          It’s opt-out vs. opt-in. It makes a difference. A lot of people will just do what’s easier.

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            or to have certain jobs

            Well, donvict’s wrecking crew is working on that, too. They are reinstating military that opted out of vaccines.

            I’m sure it won’t end there.

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          They don’t need a doctor’s note. They need a parent’s note saying they are against vaccination.

          I’m a notary for a municipality and at the beginning of the school year we get flooded with parent’s getting thise notes signed. Most businesses refuse to notarize that bullshit, but at the city we can’t refuse to notarize based on ethical grounds.

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            Maybe you can talk everyone in to taking a vacation the week before school starts.

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      This simply won’t end here. RFK wanted vaccines pulled off the market. (He may put on a show during his confirmation and lie and pretend now he loves them though)

      Antivaxxers have spent the last 4 years claiming that vaccines cause people to “shed” vaccine particles or spike proteins. They’re blaming miscarriages, autism, and actual covid on this mythical shedding and some have tried to ban vaccinated people from businesses and homes. They’ll try to ban vaccines to stop this delusion.

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      Still; they’ll spread enough bullshit so that stupid people will think that vaccines are not worth getting, which is nearly as bad as banning them outright when it comes to efficacy.

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