And I cast that wish at level 9
Well no duh. It’s a level 9 spell. Can’t cast it lower than that.
Ever say “Fuck Nazis” and some fuck face goes “Of course you would make fun of conservatives you lib!”.
Wonderful feeling.
In my experience they never get it. It is fun to make fun of them. Once they reveal themselves, they become very predictable and even when called out as to how they will respond, they do it anyway like an npc.
Um, actually Wish is always cast at level 9.
Um acktshually you can cast Limited Wish as a 7th level in Pathfinder 🤓
Um, actually Limited Wish is not Wish.
As of this month I am 31 years clean from D&D. And even I knew that wish is always cast at level 9.
The old 3.5e Epic Level Handbook had 10th level spells, and the rules surrounding their use.
So, maybe you could use a 10th level spell slot to stengthen Wish?
I haven’t played D&D this century, and the last Pathfinder I ran was lower level and we only did 1 or 2 actual play sessions before scheduling fell apart. (Also, I’m a pretty bad DM, even working from an existing published campaign; people just want me to be GM because I can remember rules.)
“Politically motivated assassinations”? Should we bring up the comparative list of politically-motivated extremist incidents in the US and see which side is enacting most of the violence?
“politically motivated assassinations?” like the two Democratic politicians who were just murdered yesterday in Minnesota?
No no, that’s like school shootings in the USA, part of their apolitical culture!
It’s mental illness!
Including the ones in Minnesota today?
The Minnesota ones are particularly interesting. The Democrats had a one-seat advantage in both chambers of the Minnesota legislature. The assassin specifically targeted one Democratic member of each chamber. The Minnesota House is now tied, and the Senate will be tied until Hoffman is able to work or (or Minnesota allows it, I’m not sure) is about to designate someone to vote for him.
well the FBI said there’s not enough evidence…
/s
“I cast that wish at level 9” is a weird phrasing. So far as I know Wish is already level 9, so there’s no other level to cast it at. Older editions had “limited wish” but I don’t believe they had upcasting. It feels very “how do you do fellow children”
It’s kinda “fellow kids” but also a lot people don’t know the rules of the games they play.
This one’s a fascist tho, so fuck them.
DnD is also a game that utilizes table rules pretty much all the time. It’s possible that his DM gave more flexible rules, I know my DM will if you have a convincing argument.
But also, buddy definitely says “you’re one of the good ones” to his black coworkers
I love threads where there’s the one person downvoting a benign comment, like “fuck fascists.” It must be lonely on Lemmy for those people. I sure hope it is.
Suffer being ostracized, downvoting fascist.
Unfortunately there seem to be a not-insignificant number of accelerationist tankies on various instances, so I’m sure fascists habe someone to hold hands with and trash on the rest of the political spectrum.
Blue checkmark checks out.
Sam’s a real one. The whole group are, but of them all, Sam’s the one I’d least want to go toe to toe with in an argument.
Dude’s sharp as fuck.
Matt would be too nice to tear you to shreds in an argument. Many of the others probably just wouldn’t engage. Sam enjoys conflict and uncomfortable situations.
That’s some kind of weird superpower in my eyes.
Thing is, so do I. I would love the spar, but know when I am outmatched.
All they ever do is “No, u…!”
Haven’t had an original thought since 1936.
“I cast that wish at level 9” I had to check the context to make sure that was a DnD thing and not some bizarre sovcit trend.
It’s also already a ninth level spell, so saying he’ll cast it at level nine is meaningless and a failed attempt to establish nerd cred.
It’s referring to a scene involving Sam Riegel in the first Critical Role campaign. He’s basically establishing he’s a ‘fan’, though also being a Nazi is weird af.
these are so cringe lol. It sounds like it is coming from someone who once read something on the internet and pretends like he has been part of this since college
I remember some YouTuber ranting about this. About how none of these people yelling about how their favorite games are going woke are actual players. I don’t have any evidence either way, but it wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of these folks are just random alt-right wingnuts trying to stir shit up. (Or nowadays AI wingnuts.)
Kinda like ranting about movies and games “go woke, go broke” and yet these media end up being blockbusters. These alt right and AI shit stirrers have huge backing from billionaires who want to world to end up in fascism.
Hell yeah, Scanlan Shorthalt et al!
One hell of a mouth on that one
This has many valid interpretations
Giggety
Can’t cast Wish @ level 9. Gotta be at least level 17. Git good newb
But it’s a 9th level spell. Don’t make me bust out the chart.
Then you don’t need to specify what level it’s cast at, it’s level 9 by default. Get outnerded 🤓
It’s wish. There are no level modifiers. At least not back when I played. A wish of a wish. 17th level wizard or 34th level wizard makes no difference.
No self awareness lmfao I love it when people accidentally tell on themselves like this, is there a name for it?
Riegel could have done better here; his comeback isn’t really that smart. See, this same script works exactly the same in reverse:
- right winger: “Down with pedophiles!”
- left winger: “Down with JK rowling and <insert right-wing anti-lgbt nonsense>”
- right winger: “I just said down with pedophiles. Telling that you took that as an insult to your politics.”
Your counter-example doesn’t make sense.
In the picture in this post, the person who read the “down with fascism” message expressed disappointment with the person’s message, thus revealing that they are associating fascism with their own political leaning.
In your example, the left-winger just mentions a name of someone else they don’t like in response, which isn’t even connected to the topic.
You’re missing the point that certain political ideologies have very strong connections with each other. Except one side is arguably connected to many much worse terms.
You can say “down with authoritarian marxists!” and you might get a few tankies to pipe up and say “wow I can’t believe you are attacking the glorious people’s blah blah blah” to which you can say “aha called out your politics!” but nobody really takes tankies seriously anyway nor are they a threat to modern nation-building the same way they were a century or two ago.
It doesn’t matter that we’re correct that right-wingers are fascists while they’re wrong that we’re pedophiles. The rhetoric works exactly the same in either case.
As I responded to the other commenter, right-wingers are obviously well aware that left-wingers will call them fascists, even if they do not consider themselves fascist and hold a negative perspective of fascism. I consider pedophiles bad but I’m aware that right-wing people are going to call me one just because I’m gay.
In a flipped conversation, where the third commenter is a right-winger who says “look, you didn’t deny being a pedophile!,” I’m sure they would take a screenshot of the conversation and post it to twitter and get lots of upvotes since that looks like such an own. They’d probably even say they can tell by my disappointment that I was implicitly acknowledging I’m a pedophile.
If your clever comeback sounds exactly as smooth coming out of the enemy’s mouth, it’s not a very good comeback.
I’m arguing that your example isn’t communicating your thesis very well, and I don’t think I’m alone in that feeling, but I’m doing the courtesy of letting you know that it’s not connecting and why.
Apparently it’s not communicating it well, but your response doesn’t really clear up why for me. I appreciate your trying though. I am left with the lingering feeling that it’s not connecting because it’s hard to picture a right-wing zinger landing well, and not because I’m fundamentally wrong about the symmetry of these scenarios. I’ll concede I could be missing the point.
I appreciate the attempt, I think you can rework it to make your point, but just for the sake of keeping our minds working I will extend the conversation out to address the higher-level premise of what you’re trying to communicate.
If your clever comeback sounds exactly as smooth coming out of the enemy’s mouth, it’s not a very good comeback.
I fully agree with this point, but it’s also not how we argue with/interact with our current ideological opponents. We’re stuck in a loop on the left where we think crafted arguments and intellectual superiority will have any impact at all on anyone. If the right broadly cared at ALL about ideological consistency we wouldn’t be in this weird situation to begin with. Our big, missing hole in our analysis here is that the left us largely about headspace arguments and logic and consistency, and the right only acts like they do because they see us arguing this way and try to use the same way we argue to score points.
Conservatives generally don’t care about hypocrisy. Like, at all. They live in a world of feelings and how they feel now, and whatever story has been supplied to them about why they feel this way at this moment, so it almost doesn’t matter if our arguments are bad. If we want to change hearts and minds, we need to back waaaay the fuck up and start attacking how people feel. Like on a very personal level, because they only exist in their present moment and present feelings. This is why they get so worked up about petty, superficial insults like “you’re weird.” It’s far less satisfying because they always have bravado and hold frame, but it DOES effect them.
We like to craft expert arguments to impress other leftists, but if it had any kind of real-world impact, we’d all be swimming in socialism and equality.
EXACTLY the Same! Because saying Down With Pedophiles has NOTHING to do with People who want to Label LGBTQ people PEDOPHILES!
The bit about calling sam out and down with lies makes it pretty clear that he views it as a counter attack
Well yeah, obviously. The right wing, regardless of whether they consider themselves fascist or not, are obviously aware that left is going to call them out for being fascists. Just as I’m aware that when right-wing people say “pedophiles” they likely are talking about queer people. It’s not going to go over anyone’s head.
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