Star Wars universe does have lasers of all scales and power levels.
Yet literally no one uses them well on a personal scale.
The Jedi (and Sith for that matter) imbue it with a power of magical stone, and then…use it as a saber.
To balance this stupidity, stormtroopers, clones and droids all use slow, non-continuous energy blasters. With actual lasers, they could insta-kill any Jedi, but they cannot, because otherwise the movie wouldn’t exist.
It’s fantasy, not sci-fi though
You can’t stress that enough. I love sci-fi, but I never really fancied Star Wars.
Now, as a dad, I rewatch the movies and replay scenes with my son, and the similarity with fantasy action movies strikes me. For example, the beautiful display of alien species and habitats.
We don’t need to split hairs - ‘sci-fi fantasy’ or ‘science fantasy’ is a real genre and common enough term.
Laser swords and biological powers beyond our current grasp of the science behind them define it as science fiction.
I get it’s the quirky pickme trend to argue over this and I agree about the fantasy elements but don’t be the ‘actually’ guy in the room.
Not really, in LoTr, they have a magical sword that shines around orcs, another one that can stop a ghost sword, and there are being with biological powers beyond the grasp of our understanding.
I think you are confusing setting with genre. By your logic the star wars and star trek porn parodies are also sci-fi and not porn.
Sci-fi is only sci-fi if science plays an integral role in the story, eg. Expanse, Stargate (shows), Star trek. But these are all arguably in space, so I get your confusion, that’s the setting, shows like Black Mirror and For all mankind are also sci-fi and those are present day things.
Well actually For all mankind plays out in an alternate past where the space race continues (though I guess this is also technically in space).
Black mirror explores humanity through the lense of abusing technological/scientific inventions.
So those are science based fictions, sci-fi.
Star Wars is space fantasy, arguably if we live in an alternate universe and the original trilogy is released in the late 2000s and 2010s they could be dubbed as YA. Random teenager protagonist finds out they are indeed special and helps to overthrow an opressive regime, like Divergent, Hunger games, Maze runner
lotr isnt scifi lol, its fantasy, but a specific to medieval types.
Who said Lotr is sci-fi?
I used LotR explicitly to show that Star Wars is closer to that and therefore a fantasy than it is to any well-known sci-fi.
A humble farm boy’s guardians and village are burned, leading to him leaving his home and finding refuge with a wise old man who has special powers. He tells him he knew his father, that he was a knight and they fought together. He gives him his father’s sword, and teaches him to use his own special powers. They receive a message from a princess in distress, who tells them she’s being held hostage by the evil emperor. They travel to save her with the help of a roguish anti-hero and free the princess. Once freed, they learn of a crucial weakness in the emperor’s fortress, and together they lead a raid to siege it. They succeed with the help of a rag tag bunch of rebels and the princess awards them with medals in her throne room.
That doesn’t sound like a story about how technology, science or knowledge effects people or society to me.
Also MAGIC too, star wars strangely has magic in it, which in contradictory to what a sci-fi, aka the night sisters.
Just because you don’t understand the science does not make it magic. The force is described as a biological phenomenon that the Jedi have some understanding of, whether the audience learns about it or not is irrelevant, it’s science fiction by definition.
i dont know whatyour talking about, but the night sister were clearly using MAGIC, they even stated that in the series lol many times in episodes, im not pulling it out of thin air
Pictured are space-bombers. They drop gravity bombs… in space. Please stop talking about scientific accuracy in Star Wars.
I remember seeing this shit in theaters and losing my mind over how stupid it was. It’s in the middle of an incredibly bad movie anyway which doesn’t help, but I just can’t imagine how many people had to be involved with this creative choice and how ar least some of them must have brought up how stupid dropping bombs like that is in a space fight and yet they still went with it. Dumbest shit ever.
but there’s gravity in space. surely that means there’s dropping stuff in space too!
Im honestly more concerned on how those bombs make it through the atmosphere and how much time it takes them to reach their destination.
Didn’t TIE bombers bomb asteroids in TESB when Solo and crew were hiding in a giant worm? Sure looked similar, IIRC.
That’s like a land mass at least. In this scene they were doing this in straight up open space against another ship
Lol
I have always wished for a serious grown up version of Star Wars. Like not being afraid to sever limbs like they used to, or worrying about your scoundrels being too scoundrel-y. Also really taking an inventory of everything and seriously thinking about how it would interact.
Like to your point - no need to toss out the more magical force elements but maybe just tone it down a bit and ground them in reality a little better? Because it’s absolutely ridiculous how they’ve become these invincible laser blocking demigods. They should be afraid to deploy, just like anyone, if there’s going to be shooting. It’s just lazy writing most of the time and it would be wonderful to see what a skilled hand could actually do with it all.
All they had to do for the Sequel Trilogy was adapt the Thrawn series.
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Absolutely you do not have to be 100% faithful, absolutelty you can change some bits and bobs around, overemphasize a character’s trait, underemphasize another, spend more or less run time developing certain people, relationships, etc.
Adjust and rewrite parts of it to make more sense with the old cast of actors being older than their characters were in the Thrawn series… and/or use all that fancy de-aging / re-voicing / face transplanting tech they have used all over the place with many of the same actual actors on other projects.
Its got new and old characters.
Its got Mara Jade, a new main female character, who is actually compelling and complex and fleshed out.
It respects the old characters, acknowledges their flaws and highlights their strengths. You actually see them face new struggles and have new failures in the actual temporal continuum of the plot… not as shoehorned momentary flashback/retcons to explain why someone is a completely different character now.
Its got more mature and serious themes and character arcs.
Its got an actually compelling main villain.
Its got a secret shadow fleet of ships… but with an actually competent explanation for them.
It got big ass space battles, and personal upfront altercations, its got strategizing and politics and intrigue.
It even ends on a victorious… but not a ‘final’ victorious note, leaving the gate open for you to really try and do your own thing from then after.
Its even already been functionally story boarded by being adapted into a comic book series.
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But nope, we instead got a bunch of disrepectful hacks who were convinced they could outdo everything prior, cast it all aside initially, and then started trying to copy parts of it after they realized how badly they’d fucked up.
Fucking hacks.
Its got Noghri!!
I should go back and read that again, I remember loving it so much. Also remember when Disney announced that the extended universe would be discarded to make room for new cannon and how much my heart sank hearing it.
I fully support a reread!
=D
Also, because I am in nitpick mode:
Canon is a body of work accepted as legitimate, official, standard, etc.
Cannon is what you fire a cannonball with.
=P
Anyway, I’m off to go enjoy a dessert in a desert.
I mean… they do take pause when a Mandalorian is shooting. They may block lasers but putting a lightsaber in front of a slug 6 inches from your face just turns you into Swiss cheese.
Also, their flamethrowers. A lot of mandalorian weapons were utilized solely to counter force users.
Yeah like force speed. You have that ability, yet you used it only once. Would have been pretty handy like a hundred times in various sticky situations.
Yeah it’s so damn lazy, like they introduce these things like they’re in a vaccum, situationally just to have a cool scene and toss any kind of continuity aside
Agreed. Star Wars was never much my cup of tea - a bit too campy. That changed with Andor and Rogue One. Those are up there with my favorite movies/tv of all time.
Rogue One was really close to what I want the franchise to be. Having a universe with the force users instead of about the force users is so much more interesting.
And why the hell do the stormtroopers wear all that armor if one shot kills them?
It does deflect/disperse some of the energy, how much depends on what kind of plot armor you are wearing beneath it.
The actual answer is that faceless pawns make better canon folder villains because it’s less likely the audience will relate to them as actual people in the context of the narrative. The in-universe explanation is that faceless pawns are better foot soldiers for the empire because it’s less likely said empire will relate to them as actual people.
Because they tend to bump into things an awful lot.
The OG trilogy was an interesting-enough drama with a vibrant setting, made groundbreaking by their special effects. Everything else in the franchise was made to sell toys, with maybe one or two exceptions. It’s not supposed to be taken seriously like that, I think…
I thought they were plasma based weapons
star trek, and some other scifi genre captures it better, SW is more for children, it also magic-tech in it, so not really a true scifi.
It’s a Sci-fi space opera.
Literally. No point in it being hyper realistic
Are you beginning to feel a narrowing of your throat?
I want to see the rebels and empire go at it like this:
this comment section is a lot calmer than I expected, given the subject.
Star war is for 11-year-olds, David Lucas said it himself!
Just in case someone doubts you:
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-george-lucas-kids-movies/
The quote: “was supposed to be a kid’s movie for 12-year-olds that were going through puberty…”
