On Sept. 11, Michigan representatives proposed an internet content ban bill unlike any of the others we’ve seen: This particularly far-reaching legislation would ban not only many types of online content, but also the ability to legally use any VPN.

The bill, called the Anticorruption of Public Morals Act and advanced by six Republican representatives, would ban a wide variety of adult content online, ranging from ASMR and adult manga to AI content and any depiction of transgender people. It also seeks to ban all use of VPNs, foreign or US-produced.

Main issue I have with this article, and a lot of articles on this topic, is it doesn’t address the issue of youth access to porn. I think any semi-intelligent person knows this is a parenting issue, but unfortunately that cat’s out of the bag, thanks to the right. “Proliferation of porn” is the '90s crime scare (that never really died) all over again. If a politician or industry expert is speaking against bills like this, their talking points have to include:

  • Privacy-respecting alternatives that promise parents that their precious babies won’t be able to access that horrible dangerous porn! (I don’t argue that porn can’t be dangerous, but this is yet another disingenuous right-wing culture (holy) war)
  • Addressing that vagueness in the bill sets up the government as morality police (it’s right there in the title of the bill, FFS), and NOBODY in a “free” country should ever want that.
  • Stop saying it can be bypassed with technology. The VPN ban in this bill is a reaction to talking points like that.
  • Recognize and call out that this has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with a religious minority imposing its will on the rest of the country (plenty of recent examples to pull from here).

Unfortunately this is becoming enough of “A Thing” that the left is going to have to, once again, be seen doing “something” about it. So they have to thread a needle of “protecting kids,” while respecting the privacy of their parents who want their kids protected and want to look at porn, and protecting businesses that require secure communications.

  • rumba@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    2 hours ago

    NO VPN!

    And the corporate world comes to a screeching halt.

    These fuckwads don’t even understand anything about what they’re trying to legislate.

    When shit starts being monitored, I want to see the legislators’ traffic public first.

    • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      15 minutes ago

      When shit starts being monitored, I want to see the legislators’ traffic public first.

      Oh my sweet summer child. Of course these laws won’t apply to them.

  • vane@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    54 minutes ago

    Don’t forget to ban renting servers, vps and cloud services by individuals.

  • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    4 hours ago

    “If you removed all the porn from the internet you would be left with one website, titled “Bring Back the Porn””

  • DupaCycki@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    3 hours ago

    It seems quite obvious to me that this will, in fact, not work. I’d even argue that nobody wants it to work. Only to introduce a law that a lot of people will break at some point, to have an excuse to target them later in the future if the need arises.

    No project like this will produce any significant results in any western country. It’s simply impossible to implement without full supervision and control over the entire Internet. China was able to block all online porn due to having such infrastructure. And that was possible due to a vastly different culture. We don’t.

    In general, the issue of widespread pornography is very analogous to climate change. We’ve been warned about this for decades, and yet, have done nothing to prevent it. All we can, and in my opinion should be doing, is limiting its presence in our societies, especially in the context of children. This would no doubt involve online ID verification at some stage, though that can be done with respect towards privacy.

    The bill, called the Anticorruption of Public Morals Act and advanced by six Republican representatives, would ban a wide variety of adult content online, ranging from ASMR and adult manga to AI content and any depiction of transgender people.

    Also, what’s up with targetting ASMR? It has no inherent relation to adult content. The transgender people part isn’t surprising and we know where that’s coming from.

  • Jumbie@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    5 hours ago

    It’s the GOP/Christians. It won’t work at first but they’ll come back and make it work once they get the Supreme Court to agree.

    It’s happened like this multiple times. This don’t be different.

  • plyth@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 hours ago

    This is a test balloon. One state is needed to overcome all the technical hurdles like clearing VPNs for work. Once that is done it will be roled out everywhere.

    Without ruling out VPNs, all the other internet laws don’t make sense. So this step is necessary and almost inevitable.

    • Jumbie@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      5 hours ago

      Yup. It’s their strategy and they’ve used it multiple times with great success.

  • nonentity@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    4 hours ago

    We need a steganographic VPN protocol, ideally with bonded heterogeneous multipath streams.

    Hostile networks need to be exclusively treated as dumb pipes.

    • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      10 hours ago

      Only for non-closeted gays. But for Republicans who only do it to remind themselves of the evils of gay sex it’ll be readily accessible.

  • Bro can we not?

    I thought I got lucky to be born into a family that was able to leave China, and I could browse the internet freely in the US. What the fuck y’all? Just let me have my unlimited access to entertainment in peace mmkay?

    So… fucking… cooked…

    Blatent First Amendment violation.

    I mean what even is gonna be the difference between fucking CCP and this BS.

    (Canadaaa plssss lemmme innn? 🥺👉👈❓️
    Australia? 👀)

    • DupaCycki@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 hours ago

      You seem to be picking the absolute worst countries if you’re looking for freedom, especially online. Australia is already worse than the US in many ways, and Canada not too far behind. How about Europe?

      I mean what even is gonna be the difference between fucking CCP and this BS.

      Most notably, I’d say the fact that the CCP is a competent government leading the country into its golden age, while the Republican US government is driving its country into collapse. We can all have differing opinions about the CCP, but at least we have to give them credit where it’s due.

  • fxleak@lemmings.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Can we get a list of the names of the representatives supporting this?

    Any other identifiable information would be great as well.

    Fuck this social contract.

  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    15 hours ago

    is it doesn’t address the issue of youth access to porn. I think any semi-intelligent person knows this is a parenting issue

    There sure are a lot of stupid fucking people then, huh?

    Unfortunately this is becoming enough of “A Thing” that the left is going to have to, once again, be seen doing “something”

    Personally I think the left should hammer in on “The right are too lazy and incompetent to raise their kids. They want the government to do it for them. No one who’s too unwilling or unable to spend time with their kids should be in government” or something like that. Just rub their noses in how stupid, lazy, and incompetent, the right is. Because they are. They are the worst people.

    • pool_spray_098@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      5 hours ago

      Amen to your point about rubbing their faces in it.

      The absolutely stunning level of hypocrisy from the Republicans who claim to be the party of small government has become such a laughing stock. Or at least I would be laughing if they didn’t have control of everything right now. Fuck.

    • Revan343@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      14 hours ago

      There sure are a lot of stupid fucking people then, huh?

      I mean… yeah? Seen any election results in the past few years?

  • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    19
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    15 hours ago

    It’s never been about the children, either. It’s been about reigning control and power which is why a lot of Liberals get on board with these bills too. One of the reasons i felt so disgusted to vote for Hillary Clinton was because of her stance on censorship in the 90’s. Today it’s succeeding in porn. Tomorrow it will start succeeding in literature.

    • fxleak@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      14 hours ago

      The Clintons are actual shitstains who are part of this two-pronged approach to siphon as much power away from the people and into the hands of the ruling class as possible.