Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is ‘making Russia the enemy’ - BBC News

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    Because assassinating people all over the world makes you a trusted ally. Russia will always be their own worst enemy.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    Russia routinely makes itself the enemy by always making threats and forcing themselves on others

  • mcv@lemmy.zip
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    It’s pretty obvious to everybody that Putin is making Russia the enemy. He didn’t have to do that; Europe desperately wanted Russia to be a friend, but Putin had other ideas. It’s his conscious and explicit choice to make Russia the enemy, and he’s the one constantly talking about being at war with the west. Nobody else js doing that but Putin.

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      The West was making real inroads with Russia before Putin came along.

      It’s the same with every dictator there has ever been, they have to manufacture a war in order to justify their iron fist.

      Capitalism isn’t the best by any stretch but one of the things it’s good at is making people realise that they will be much better off financially cooperating than having a pointless little war. War generates profits for the military industrial complex, but for everyone else they cost money.

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      he wants the old soviet union back, where they owned most the countries in central asia, and some of eastern europe.

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    Russia is making Russia the enemy. If they don’t like it, they can stop that today, by ending the war, and stop being massive dickheads.

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    We are making Russia our enemy.

    1. Poisoning of Viktor Yushchenko (2004)
    2. Energy blackmail (2006)
    3. Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (2006)
    4. Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko (2006)
    5. Murder of Sergei Magnitsky (2009)
    6. Energy blackmail II (2009)
    7. Creation of Internet Research Agency, aka troll army (2013)
    8. Started war in Crimea, illegal annexation (2014)
    9. Started war in Donbas (2014)
    10. Shootdown and coverup of MH17 (2014)
    11. Started supporting dictator Assad in Syria (2015)
    12. Assassination of Boris Nemtsov (2015)
    13. U.S. election interference I (2016)
    14. French Election interference (2017)
    15. Sergei Skripal poisoning (2018)
    16. Brexit referendum influence (2018)
    17. U.S. election interference II (2018)
    18. Tiergarten assassination (2019)
    19. Navalny poisoning (2020)
    20. U.S. election interference III (2020)
    21. COVID-19 disinformation campaign (2020–21)
    22. Full-scale invasion of Ukraine (2022)
    23. Bucha massacre (2022)
    24. Weaponization of energy against EU (2022)
    25. Forced deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia (2022)
    26. Migrant weaponization (2023)
    27. Rheinmetall CEO assassination plot (foiled) (2024)
    28. Election interference in Moldova & Georgia (2024)
    29. U.S. election interference IV (2024)

    Russia is doing nothing wrong.

    • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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      Don’t forget 2015 Jade Helm Scare, where they were testing their ability to manipulate using crazy stories on social media. Russia was able to convince gov Abbott of TX to order the TX National Guard to observe training exercises in Central TX because he was convinced that Obama had ordered the army to go into Walmarts, turn them into makeshift detention facilities and was planning to round up people that voted against him in a hostile takeover of the state. Obviously, it was just a training exercise, but the fear on the right was extreme.

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    Vlad and his MAGA buddies can piss in the wind. GTFO of Ukraine (includes Crimea), East Prussia, Karelia, and the Northern Territories.

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    Do you mean to tell me Ukraine started this senseless war? No? Then fuck off you dumb old man.

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    Between the invasion of Ukraine, the troll farms helping inflict Trump on us, the support for fascist parties, the novichok, the airspace incursions, the underwater cable sabotage, and the deployment of drones in western countries’ airspace, that Russia’s the one who has made Russia the enemy.

    Don’t fuckin’ DARVO us, Puto, we know what you’re up to. And we know that the only way this ends satisfactorily is with Putin on a meat hook.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      alot of people in the western countries forget that putin has been funding all of the right wing govts plus the propaganda thats been on the rise recently. from '16-25 .

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      Look at what the west does to Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries. How can Russia be safe if the US don’t continue arm restriction treaties and develop space weapons against MAD?

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        If there’s one consistent about the Russian nation, apart from invading their neighbors, it’s whataboutism. Yes, the US does awful things but Russia does awful things and for the same reasons.

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          I am not comparing. I am asking how Russia can be safe. OP asked about imperial reasons.

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          If you sum up death and influence, you are making a pro Russian argument. But I wasn’t making a moral argument. OP asked for imperialist reasons. If the US doesn’t honor UN law and isn’t made so by its allies and the other powerful nations, which other options does Russia have to be safe?

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            Russia hasn’t done these things because they feel unsafe; they have their own imperialist ambitions and work steadily towards those goals.

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              Why do you think so? There are enough western analysts who stress the strategic importance of Ukraine for Russian security.

      • socsa@piefed.social
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        Syria? That country Russia very recently occupied to prop up a dictator who used chemical weapons against his own people? Or are we talking about a different Syria here?