• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I don’t even piss standing up anymore, but I’m still a firm believer in the concept of “it really isn’t that hard to just look before you sit”.

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      I don’t even piss standing up anymore

      the correct solution.

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            Your variables are already booleans, so you can just write:

            if wearing_glasses and is_brightly_lit

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              Are they though? Maybe they are inputs that haven’t been sanitised but the language has two kinds of equals and is you use the double equals then it tries to coerce it for you. Lol that with would be silly!

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                The compiler/interpreter/etc will convert it to the most efficient implementation regardless of what you the human type. If you’re used to the if [boolean] convention use that, if you’re used to if [boolean] == true use that, it does not matter except to style commissars.

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        Tbh, it’s just easier and less messy. I don’t gotta focus on aiming, and I don’t have to worry about getting griped at for forgetting to put the seat down. Standing is really only a better option if you’re in public and in a rush.

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          Certain toilets are on the small size for my… equipment. And I periodically find my dongle touching porcelain. This also results in some backspray which is annoying to clean up.

          I’ve found it easier and less messy to piss standing. But I also got a fancy bidet for my wife’s Christmas present years ago. It automates the whole task of opening and closing, does a bit of self-cleaning, and saves us a few bucks on toilet paper month-to-month. So its less of an issue.

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            Sometimes I piss too hard or at the wrong angle or something while I’m having a big one while I’m also having a shit and it somehow escapes under the rim and I end up with piss all over the floor. The amount of piss from that Vs micro spray is incomparable.

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            The real problem is that those toilets are just too small. It’s the same as those sinks that have the faucet 1 micrometer from the sink edge. I truly don’t get it

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      Yeah, for men, standing up is just going to get piss everywhere. Men also need to wipe themselves afterwards, not just shake. Some men consider both of these practices to be overly-feminizing or whatever, but not having piss all over yourself and the bathroom is unequivocally a good thing.

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      I started doing this over 30 years ago, when I shared a restroom at work with a few women. I kept doing it.

      Where I grew up and live, there are two types of toilets, those designed to be sat upon, and those designed to be stood in front of. Use them as they were designed to be used, and they work better.

      I’ve only ever seen photos of squat toilets. I imagine that men stand in front of them and piss all over them?

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        Apparently not, considering the bitchy comments I’ve gotten from women in my life lol.I learned it after the first time, but hey.

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    The lid always goes down when not in use at my house.

    “It’s a shit receptacle, not a water feature” has been repeated to anyone who doesn’t know the rule.

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    I genuinely cannot understand why someone wouldn’t want their seat and lid down at all times when not in use.

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      I switched out to the slow close seats so there’s really no effort or slamming. Just push, wait 2 seconds, then flush.

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      I would agree, but just yesterday I was visiting my mom and she asked that we leave the lid up in the rarely used guest bathroom because with it closed, it encourages mold growth. So I guess there’s that.

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        That’s a fair case. We don’t use one of our tubs and every once in a while we have to flush it with water because we get sewer smell. Unused bathroom facilities apparently cause problems.

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        This might be true if there is existing live mold somewhere in the toilet (for that, monthly tank bleach tablet) but otherwise a lid prevents spores from settling in the first place.

        Humidity reduction by ventilation can slow/delay mold but only eradication stops it.

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          Well they’re on a well with a septic tank which means no chlorine in the water and they wouldn’t want put a bleach tab in because of the septic. But I agree it would be good to eradicate it if possible.

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      It’s late, I’m drunk, I barely remembered to get the seat up before doing my business, and I’m used to living on my own.

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    Toilets are gross. Put the lid down. There is some study I read that said flushing the toilet throws lots of bacteria into the room. Shut the lid before you flush.

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      Mythusters found fecal particles everywhere even when the lid was down. There’s no escape from gross, just finding an acceptable level.

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        If I’m remembering right Mythbusters found that there were fecal particles everywhere, but in wildly different concentrations depending on the conditions (like the control being in the kitchen)

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          I’d have to re-watch those segments. The part that remains stuck in my mind is that they found fecal particles on a toothbrush that was in a closed drawer.

          I don’t believe closing the lid helps that much, and I grew up with (and still have to deal with) a toilet that sometimes but not always needs a second (or third) press of the handle, so I keep the lid open so I can be sure the water really got flushed. (It drains the tank into the bowl, but sometimes it just slowly, but steadily, flows through roughly maintaining water level instead of crossing a pressure (?) threshold and flushing out the bowl and then refilling.)

          But, I’m all for closing the seat and the lid when you are done. It keeps pets and dropped items out of the bowl, if nothing else. If we have to leave the lid up, I still say seat down; that’s the “ready to use” configuration for all female and some male uses.

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        Unless you’re immunocompromised it doesn’t make a difference. “Unhealthy” bacteria is literally everywhere. You have an immune system for a reason.

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      Then all the bacteria are flung onto the lid, and when I sit down I might touch the lid with my back.

      There’s plenty of bacteria in the air already, a million more aren’t going to hurt. Unless you have a norovirus, then you need to disinfect with bleach after you’re done.

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        You don’t think there are plenty of bacteria on your back already? Not to mention it would likely be on the back of your shirt. What’s in the air goes straight into your lungs.

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    “These invisible particles go on to coat and spread onto surfaces like floors and counters; or objects like hand towels, bathmats or even toothbrushes.

    Toilets are scientifically proven to continue to produce contaminated toilet plumes over multiple successive flushes as indicated in the above video.

    Toilet aerosols are known to contain Norovirus, SARS Coronavirus, Salmonella and many other Diseases.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume

    TLDR: always put the lid down before flushing.

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      I agree with the conclusion, but your toilet doesn’t simply spawn SARS viruses.

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      This study has been reviewed by other researchers, the original study chose an industrial toilet with a power flush. Notice how this toilet doesn’t even HAVE a lid. It’s like what you find in a hospital, they’re designed to basically flush a cornish game hen in 1 second.

      Your 1.6L swirly home toilet doesn’t do the same, you can use a laser level to see for yourself. If the swirl is turbulent it’ll spray some, but lots of toilets don’t really emit mist much at all.

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        Well, that’s a bit of a relief.

        I still believe that my regular toilet has a plume because I can feel the moisture of the droplets, so I’ll continue to keep the lid down, but still good to know that it isn’t that spectacular.

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    Oh… I’m already doing that with my wife and in any case I’m always sitting down. I thought it was more commun to do that.

    I mean I always thought it was more hygenic to prevent the “splash zone”…

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    Ive always put the lid down along with the seat. I believe its more sanitary and has the added benefit of women not falling fully in the bowl like when the seats up. Ive done this for about 15 years.

    A few years after I started doing this, I was spending the night at my friend’s house. I had to get up early to go to work, so I was first up. My friends mother got up next apparently. I was bombarded with texts and such, her mom was angry because she got up and went to the bathroom and just went for it after she sat down. Queue giant liquid waste mess to clean and an angry start to her day.

    All these years later, I still think its one of the funniest things I’ve ever been part of in real life.

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      I was gonna say you’d be surprised how many waste particles fly around the room with the seat up - but from the sound of it, even more went everywhere with it down!

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    I never understood the debate. Ensure it’s how you need it before doing your thing. Applies equally to all individuals for any scenario. Not difficult.

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      Women say it needs to always already be how they need it before doing their thing. Men are lazy and want to leave it up after peeing.

      Me, I put the lid down before flushing because otherwise a minuscule amount of pee would probably splash out of the toilet. Would it be more convenient to leave it up all the time? Sure, but then there’s more cleaning to do and that’s less convenient again.

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        I reject the lazy argument. It could just as easily be applied in reverse. The person using it should make sure. Simple.

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    Everybody saying keep the lid down for hygiene reason are missing the most important reason to keep the lid closed. Anything dropped or falling will inexorably end into the toilet if the lid is up.

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      No. The seat up vs down being open for debate at all implies that the lid stays up all the time. That’s crazy, the lid is literally made for covering the toilet.

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      Too bad women are too stubborn to pee with the seat up. Men are willing to meet them half way and put the seat down for pooping.

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          S is for sarcasm. I don’t think i was being sarcastic. I wasn’t serious either, just making a funny comment in response to another funny comment.

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            women are too stubborn to pee with the seat up

            I think that’s sarcasm, unless you actually meant to communicate that women are stubborn.

            In any case, I think due to Poe’s Law, you’d have gotten better votes if you included “/s” or “j/k” or another marker. (But, votes might not be a concern to you.)

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        Plebs in this thread don’t even have a poop man to hold the poop bucket for them when they poop standing up smh my head.

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    I grew up with a dog. The toilet seat was always kept down to keep him away from drinking it, because we had toilet cleaning pucks in the tank that would have potentially poisoned him. Nothing to do with gender at all.

    Also the mythbusters episode on toilet water splashing out onto bathroom surfaces scarred me as a child. We have a soft-close lid and I wait a few seconds for it to get to a low angle before I even flush.

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      The mythbusters episode convinced me. That water flush makes everything spiral upwards, and it lands in your toothbrush.

      People who don’t put the toilet seat down are unaware they’re brushing with shit particles.

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        There are such things in this world as particles.
        Particles so small that you cannot possibly detect it with your naked eyes.
        And I put it to you that there are particles of human shit lingering in the fibers of your underpants.

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        The poo particles fly out of the bowl, into the hallway, curve into the bathroom, and then land on your toothbrush?

        There’s eiher some crazy wind paths in your home, or some idiot put your toilet in the bathroom.