Please report any pro-US-empire comments so we can ban them ASAP.
We aren’t going to let people come into this space and justify US crimes like kidnapping heads of state, murdering innocent people, and starting wars based on lies.
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Can we please keep the respectful ones so we have a chance to dispel their beliefs? There is overwhelming propaganda against Venezuela that is easy to disprove, but most of their spaces ban us (example: reddit). I wish we have a chance to argue our perspective.
The groupthink on forums is ridiculous, and you don’t need to be a capitalist nor anticapitalist to recognize that. I, too, hope that we can have healthy discussions of starkly different views.
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“captured”
lol - kidnapped would be more correct.
Captured is for people at war. Kidnapped is the right term for what happened here.
The manufacturing consent is going brazy today. I read a few headlines that had attack, in quotation marks. Like “attack”.
The fuck are the quotation marks for? Who we quotin? Just call a fucking spade a spade
Maduro might be an idiot, but the press needs to be vigilant here.
“What right does the US have to do this?”
“So other countries can do this to the US for similar reasons and not expect repercussions?”
Kidnapping of a head of state is completely illegal, and south american countries should be uniting and mobilizing for coming wars with the US to prevent similar intrigues in their own countries.
We need that joint army right now
Most of the South American countries are controlled by US friendly oligarchies; Venezuela was the only place that wasn’t until now.
We need to organize yesterday
It won’t be surprising if zelensky gets killed in a missile strike next week.
They don’t want to, they could do that easily.
He is not liked as it is by ukrainians, and he would be replaced by the fascist Zalushny.
Last year Zelenski gave medals to troops and Russia waited until he left to strike the building.
They know exactly where he is and when.He is not liked as it is by ukrainians
Absolute nonsense. Show data.
he has about 20 percent, if you care so much about the little beggar look it up yourself, IDC about that fascist shithole.
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it’s from your own nazi Kiev independent you banderite idiot.
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I’m sure Venezuela will be a great and powerful democracy from this. Just like Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Don’t forget Libya
And Nicaragua, Cuba before Fidel, and hell Venezuela before Chavez
Every country becomes Argentina. Or maybe Texas
I have come across a load of people on lemmy who think that the invasion of libya is a good thing since it took down gadaffi. nevermind the open-air slave markets that sprung up afterwards.
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Do you feel a part of the earth we all share must turn to ash before there is solidarity amongst the working class of both our nation states?
absolutely, without a doubt
Perhaps some intrepid souls could arrange to kidnap Trump and Melania and deliver them to the Hague.
The Hague wouldnt do shit lol
They would send both back immediately so they don’t get invaded
The US has passed a law that it reserves the right to invade The Hague if any US people are arrested by the ICC
Maybe we should get the US to invade, so Europe finally stops licking that boot.
Not the EU, only some countries, as the first Germany is licking the US ass.
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I think the whole “we’re taking over Venezuela” is just your typical Trump bravado. I believe user xiaohongshu on Hexbear has the correct angle:
I think everyone is too fixated on the empire getting into a long war but I don’t think that’s the goal here.
Just like Trump’s B-2 stunt on Iran’s Fordow back in June, the US operation was a quick in, quick out operation. Nothing seems to have significantly changed on the surface, but the message has been sent. The US is sowing political instability in the region, and it scares away foreign investments especially China’s.
Just look at China-Iran trade numbers, it’s plunging by 20% this year. Chinese investors are pulling away because they cannot see profitable return in Iran and the surrounding regions. This worsens the economic condition in Iran, and months later, we see the Iranians protesting as a result.
The same play is being replicated in Venezuela here against Latin America. The US has no interest in getting dragged into a long war. It wants to demonstrate how easily it can upset the political balance in Latin America. Do you seriously think that Chinese investors will still want to invest billions on Venezuela seeing how easily the leadership can be kidnapped?
The investment’s gone, and the US simply has to sit back and wait for the situation to deteriorate even further, and the regime change opportunity will present itself. But it’s not even about Venezuela, it’s about the US dominance over Latin America.
As an American citizen, I’m 150 fucking percent against this in all ways shape and form. I don’t know how to prevent this from continuing but I’ll be looking for any chance at having this country both formally apologizing and prosecuting the idiots responsible.
What goddamn horrible news to wake up to, my apologies to our fellow people on spaceship earth.
E: did anyone notice the not-so-veiled threat against Cuba?
I’ve started reminding people with youngs sons that they need to sign up for the draft. Always interesting when you ask the ones i know vote republican suddenly realize their votes could kill their kids. Glad I’m old enough to avoid this shit.
I was just explaining to some of my overseas friends how embarrassed and ashamed I was of the current administration, domestically and abroad.
Less than 24 hours later, this fucking disgrace.
Were you not ashamed of previous administrations?
No no. I’ve been embarrassed and ashamed of plenty of them, but this one is especially malevolent.
Dea** to Amerikkka
Death to AmeriKKKa!
Don’t wanna be the kind of person who says “yet you live in jsociety”, but you’re saying this as an American citizen - you’re exercising your right to fhe freedom of speech, as per the First Amendment (which also includes the freedoms of religion, of the press, to assemble peacefully, and to redress grievances). Would you say that you’d love America if they elected a socialist president?
Meh. I only oppose the “President” part of “socialist President”, not the “socialist” part.
And I hate AmeriKKKa no matter who’s in charge. It’s a racist settler-colonial capitalist entity.
Like you can have free speech without AmeriKKKa. But also…try standing in front of your local AmeriKKKan university with a “John Brown did nothing wrong” sign, or basically any sufficiently inflammatory black or indigenous radical sign, and see how long your freedom of speech gets respected. I.e., the AmeriKKKan entity is an impediment to free speech if you’re an anarchist, communist, anti-capitalist, black, indigenous, etc.
If the US becomes a socialist country during the Great Depression (a lot like in the althistory story “Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline”), would you like the country more?
Probably. Again, I oppose the “country” part of “socialist country”. And frankly, a “socialist” project that adopts the AmeriKKKan flag, i.e. positioning itself as somehow an extension of the AmeriKKKan project, is not a project worth pissing on.
You prefer the term “socialist society”? I assume you’re more of an anarchist
Yeah I’m an anarcho-communist.
What flag do you have the mind for a socialist America? Maybe the kind of flag like the UASR in “Reds!”? I really like that flag - it DOESN’T rely on the red-white-blue, stars and stripes combination like some of the other althistory stories about a socialist US. Here, the combination of colors is red, black and gold, NOT to mention to the hammer-compass-gear-wheat symbol on the centre of the flag
I mean yeah I’d be cool with that being the flag of a commune, although I don’t think we necessarily need to have an “America-scale” single anarchist community. Like my vision of post-US North America looks more like complex networks of autonomous local collectives.
That would be rad, but that’s not the timeline we live in
Why would electing a socialist president change anything? The US would still be a fascist imperialist hell state deserving of death. The president doesn’t control everything, capitalists and the military industry would still be waging global wars.
Quick question: if the US becomes a socialist/communist country during the Great Depression and stays that way forever (like in the althistory story “Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline”), would you like that US more than the one we have?
What about a communist president who advocates for constitutional reform?
I think a president and enough political supporters could turn the US into a socialist or communist state, a president like that could at least make some incremental changes, but with the elections and state functions so controlled by capitalists and bourgeois interests it seems unlikely in the US political climate. I don’t think it’s impossible though and we should use all means possible to help, but issues we face such as climate change and wealth inequality require more substantial changes that aren’t likely to be passed and implemented quickly enough within the current structure to adequately address them in time.
So you think the US would become a one-party socialist country (or a multi-party socialist country, but all parties work cooperatively under a common cause a lot like China)?
Maybe in time or with better political education, but if a president suddenly tried to do that anywhere in the near future I would guess it could cause conservative states to cecede like the civil war to defend capitalism, or at least some kind of violent conflict is likely to happen.
Death to settlers as well tbh
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Only if they enacted reparations
You know that “freedom of speech” was created as a cover for overt racism but with buzzwords, right?
And you know USA legally segregated people until the 60/70s right?
How does that amendment hold up when you’re legally segregated, mother fucker?
Don’t come with that sham branding tactic to lecture us. Go read your history and fuck off.
Rights are made up and will be removed at the earliest convenience, true rights are only what you can take
Oh, you haven’t read the news about the first amendment?
Why?
Don’t wanna be the kind of person who says “yet you live in jsociety”
Yet you chose to be that kind of person.
This isnt corpo friendly reddit, you can just say it.
Death to America!
the spineless goons of the us, the “international commubity” just stand and watch as the us robs and plunders a nation. where are the campaigns against us propaganda? where’s the shipment of attack drones? where’s the dehumanization of every amerikkkan?
if atrocities serve their masters or themselves they just turn a blind eye.
the usa is the devil, a cancer - we all know that. but the regurgitation of US propaganda and lack of condemnation by allied states is a shame.
here’s hoping some western “leftists” realize that they defend their enemy.
I will be honest, I was expecting the US to do IOF / Palantir type actions and try to take out government and civilian leadership several levels deep. While taking out a single leader rarely does anything, removing an entire leadership structure in an already unstable situation can be devastating. The fact that, for now, the US is stopping at “just” Maduro encourages me that the Bolivarian Revolution will continue on, now with even more support from the people.
I think now it will be a battle of how much the Trump admin can do in the face of international condemnation (outside of US vassal states, that is) and likely increased support of Venezuela from its neighbors. Trump will almost certainly dig in on sanctions until Venezuela hands over their oil. But I don’t see that happening, so I don’t know what happens.
America is truly an evil country.
Trump has admitted that there are a lot of CIA agents in Venezuela. It was also suspiciously easy for the USA to get Maduro out of the country.
My guess is that the USA likely expects a coup to happen which will install a friendly regime.
Trump is already threatening the new replacement President and more violence.
I’ve got a better pic somewhere of uncle sam as a drug addict, slouched on the floor and injecting oil into his veins.
please share
Hey everyone, when I plugged in my PC I didn’t get any motherboard lights, but I’m very lucky, because an ex-tenant who I’m still friends with, recently gifted me his old PC. I just put my old SSD into his old PC and used the power and SATA cable that were originally connected to the CD drive. Bingo!
Here, have some memes!
I took a pic of this comment and I’ll get back to you if I plug in the pc. I can upload images on here right? I just don’t see many people posting images as replies.
Yes, you can upload pictures here. It’s as simple as just pasting a picture in the text editor box when you’re writing your reply.
Death to America. 😞
