An Immigration and Customs Enforcement memo obtained by The Associated Press reveals that the agency allows immigration officers to forcibly enter homes to make arrests without a judicial warrant.

Federal immigration officers are asserting sweeping power to forcibly enter people’s homes without a judge’s warrant, according to an internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement memo obtained by The Associated Press, marking a sharp reversal of longstanding guidance meant to respect constitutional limits on government searches.

The memo authorizes ICE officers to use force to enter a residence based solely on a more narrow administrative warrant to arrest someone with a final order of removal, a move that advocates say collides with Fourth Amendment protections and upends years of advice given to immigrant communities.

    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
      754·
      22 days ago

      Surely it will work, right? All those school shootings and accidental murders, they were for this. To stand up to tyranny. Surely Americans won’t just roll over/cheer like they always do. Surely not. Lmao

      • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
        87·
        22 days ago

        I just hope they don’t go too hard with the tweets and protests! They’re getting results! And democratic senators writing letters! Oof!

        /s

        (I support the protesters, the ICE victims, and NOT ICE, but day after day it just gets worse, and that’s all they’re doing - tweeting and marching - as ICE commit atrocity after atrocity).

        • itistime@infosec.pub
          5·
          22 days ago

          I agree. Other vital actions need to take place. However, they are doing vital work. Not everyone can pry secrets out of their digital assets. Not everyone can slip into the homes of their masters while they sleep. No, we very much need people documenting what’s happening. We need people to helping their neighbors when ditched in poor weather by thugs.

    • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.caEnglish
      463·
      22 days ago

      We already know how. It won’t.

      Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

      When ingroups do it, its castle doctrine. When outgroups do it its terrorism. There is no law in the US. Just an uncivilized savage land now.

    • bdot@lemmy.world
      13·
      22 days ago

      well - considering the “assassination attempt” on Trump, and how anyone speaking against the regime is a “domestic terrorist,” my money is on the idea that very soon there will be some ICE agents that have an encounter with “ANTIFA thugs,” and this is where martial law will be declared.

      Trump is insane right now, and he is big mad that he’s not getting his way in Switzerland; he’s getting bullied right back, and he’s starting to see that people are laughing at him.

      • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world
        6·
        22 days ago

        If that was the goal it would’ve been false flagged already. The goal really is just a simple as they don’t think their actions will have consequences, and so far they’ve been largely correct.

        • itistime@infosec.pub
          3·
          22 days ago

          There already have been false flags. Just ones that sought to incite conflicts between protesters and the boots.

          They want blood soaked antifa bodies. It will help to normalize the coming violence to their base. They will frame how it was just. They demonize the slain. It will ratchet it to a new level.

          • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world
            2·
            22 days ago

            Can you cite any specifics? Because either things are actively spicier than I was aware of or you misunderstood what was being said.

            • itistime@infosec.pub
              1·
              21 days ago

              I expressed that in frustration and anger. I have only seen one video of protests where there was something getting lobbed at officers from behind the protesters. There were claims that it was done by boot lickers, but I have no proof, and I can’t find the video now in the sea of content.

              My frustration is that it is illogical to think they (MAGA in general) are not accustomed to doing false flags. I know that isn’t what you said. I protested in WA during BLM. There is a mountain of evidence of MAGA driving in and causing trouble in those events. I watched them peel down the streets in their trucks as we marched. I lived around them. I know what they spoke of. There are Boogaloos in jail for false flags shooting at cops during BLM: https://scholarlycommons.law.hofstra.edu/faculty_scholarship/1540/

              I haven’t observed that same extent this time. I think many of those thugs are now ICE thugs. Also, the stakes are higher for false flaggers against ICE. They don’t want hurt either.

    • zib@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      22 days ago

      The legal side of it would probably be unfairly weighted in ICE’s favor, but I suspect if they tried this in a place like Texas, by the time it got to court, those frozen water nazis would already be shot the hell up.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      6·
      22 days ago

      I expect that within a few months you’ll find NICS checks returning “DENY” for anyone who has ties to terrorism. The evidence of terrorism will be membership in things ike the ACLU, being a registered Democrat, having a reading level of 8th-grade or higher, etc.

    • PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world
      176·
      22 days ago

      Sir, this is a Wendy’s Minnesota. There’s no castle doctrine, but rather a duty to retreat.

      • Nate Cox@programming.devEnglish
        24·
        22 days ago

        I could absolutely be wrong about this because I’ve never really looked it up, but I thought “duty to retreat” still allowed use of lethal force once there is nowhere left to retreat (for example, once in your own home).

        Part of those pesky “inalienable rights”.

      • Pavidus@lemmy.world
        10·
        22 days ago

        I understand, however in the article it states “The shift comes as the Trump administration dramatically expands immigration arrests nationwide…”

        There’s a reason this started in areas such as Minnesota. I fully believe this is just trial runs and laying the (il)legal framework to handle more difficult areas.

        • grue@lemmy.world
          9·
          22 days ago

          “Nationwide” is sanewashing. It’s really expanding specifically to blue states (because its real purpose is punishing the regime’s political enemies).

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
        8·
        22 days ago

        Duty to retreat does not apply when you are already in your own home. It’s only when you are in public or outside of the protection of your own home.

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
      2·
      22 days ago

      Yeah, but there’s usually like 6 ice goons in riot gear with a lot of firepower. You hopefully kill a couple before getting shot to death yourself, and Trump doesn’t give a shit if a few of his goons die. Citizens need to take up arms and force ice out. Not hope a few get into shootouts at an occasional home here or there.

    • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      21 days ago

      You need the other document

      When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

      when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

      (Hey, It’s not illegal to quote the nation’s founders, right? 👀)

      Edit: Btw I remember this was required class material… must be awkward for the highschoolers of current times lol

  • Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io
    27·
    22 days ago

    How long till they break into a home and find themselves in the midst of a boobytrap. Nice bucket of paint over the door, that sort of thing. Nothing harmful, just a bucket of yellow paint to mark the cowards for what they are. This is clearly criminal behavior, and needs to stop.

  • archonet@lemy.lolEnglish
    23·
    22 days ago

    Sounds like a fine way to end up eating a buckshot sandwich, but I’m not one to interrupt my enemy while they’re making a mistake.

    • frog_brawler@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      21 days ago

      Buckshot in one barrel, slugs in the other. Some of these stupid assholes might be wearing plates that didn’t come from Temu.

  • hume_lemmy@lemmy.caEnglish
    11·
    22 days ago

    Trump previously: “Take the guns first, go through due process second.” (actual quote)

    Trump today: “Take the homes first, go through due process second.”

    • grue@lemmy.world
      7·
      22 days ago

      Trump today: “Take the homes first, go through due process second.”

      There is no evidence for the second half of that.

  • plz1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    22 days ago

    Next they’ll be breaking into churches and schools, watch for it. Churches used to be considered off-limits, but I’m betting they are only off-limits in the bible belt, not the rest of the country.

  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
    5·
    22 days ago

    I’m pretty sure that has the same enforceability legal standing as ICE saying its legal for them to shoot anyone anywhere for any reason.