• Tarkcanis@lemmy.world
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    The US needs some serious Hague style prosecutions. Sad thing is, their democrats won’t do it…

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      I’m rooting for French style revolution…the democrats just voted to give ice more money today because they were afraid of being considered anti law and order while bowing down to a pedofile child murdering insurrectionist who is controlled by a genocide committing war criminal…they look pretty soft on crime to me

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        I’m confused who the democrats are actually performing for. They have to know that at the next election the republicans are going to get steamrollered and if they play their cards right they can come out on top.

        Yet they do stuff like this, as if they’re trying to pander to MAGAs, as if that’s all help their electoral chances.

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          I would guess they aren’t really Democrats, they are getting big donations from MAGA backers, or most likely they know voters won’t bother to vote them out during the primaries. Some may be unopposed.

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      Time for the people to tear down the systems repressing them and build it from scratch. I don’t think there’s any other way tbh

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    Have you heard that assholes voice? I swear if I ever saw him in person I’d stoop down, look him in the eyes and laugh my ass off.

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      From a reddit thread of someone who allegedly knew him:

      I just found out I know Greg Bovino personally. Here are some things you can tell him when you next see him.

      Hello, Minneapolis resident here but I didn’t always live in Minneapolis. Once, long ago I lived in a quiet little mountain town of Boone, NC. Guess who else grew up there? A pathetic squat little toad named Gregory Bovino. Well, that squat little toad grew up to be a squat little Nazi toad who has decided to come to my beautiful adopted home to torture, murder, and terrorize my friends and neighbors. He is personally going door to door, so if you see him, here’s a few very specific things from home you can politely yell at him:

      “Hey Greg! Remember how your Dad murdered a woman in Blowing Rock while driving drunk? Like father like son I guess.”

      “Hey Greg! You’re the reason your dad got drunk and killed that woman in Blowing Rock which lead to your parents divorce. I guess that means you’re the reason they got divorced.”

      “Hey Greg! Do you think it’s weird that the Watauga High yearbook has you listed as “Most Likely to Shit His Pants in Public?”

      “Hey Greg, your history teacher ‘G.I. Jones’ thinks you’re a pathetic Nazi punk. No wonder you failed all his classes.”

      “Hey Greg! Did you know your mom is a register Democrat? Does that make Thanksgiving awkward?”

      “Hey Greg! Remember when the Mast Store banned your for sniffing shoes after people tried them on?”

      “Hey Greg! Do you remember eating the Watauga Pioneers wrestling team’s soggy biscuit? Is it still gay to eat to eat semen off a Bojangles biscuit or was that just an 80s thing?”

      “Hey Greg! Watauga High still thinks you’re a loser!”

      “Hey Greg! Boone, NC fucking hates you.”

      “Hey Greg! They is it true only inbreds come from Possum Hollow?”

      “Hey Greg! Remember when you fell into the porta-John at the Valle Country Fair and they couldn’t find you for hours and people just came in and kept shitting on you and shitting on you?”

      “Hey Greg, remember when Mr. Combs found you jerking off to Nat Geo magazines in the high school bathroom?”

      “Hey Greg remember swimming at Trash Can falls and your swim suit fell off and all the girls laughed at your micro penis? Watauga High still remembers.”

      EDIT: in case anyone is wondering, the woman his father killed was named Janie Mae Mitchell. I’m sure he’ll remember the name if you want to yell it’s him.

      EDIT 2: please join me in getting #GregBovino #SoggyBiscuit trending on TikTok and all other social media.

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        All that cheesy phrasing and shitty put downs makes the alleged veracity basically null. Buttfuck, this is how we talk now!

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          I just want to know how you fall in a porta potty. Like how is that a possible thing to happen?

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            Not in the modern sense of those things being all plastic. But I can see some enterprising lunatic bolting together a wooden 4x4 shack and carting it down to the county fair, and convincing an official to pay for the privilege. Then it gets installed atop a specially dug 8-foot-hole. And Gregory Bovino just wanders in there, inspects all the creature comforts of this high end custom log cabin shitterizo, and just jumps in the hole. Probably happened year after year at the county fair

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      Almost Nothing.

      US had <0.2% conviction rate of war criminals, <1% of "major war criminals. Look it up, <200 convicted and actually punished of 100,000. Fascist war criminals is one of the lowest prosecution rates of all time. Very safe criminal activity apparently.

      They gave many of the Nazis jobs, land, and positions in government and the UN. Nuremberg was a complete joke for publicity.

      If US history is anything to go by, they will get off with 0 consequences. Just like WW2 and the civil war. The US needs a significant change to deal with it, like trial-less minimum life in prison for all ICE agents or it will be literally the same shit cycle of fascism.

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    After Bovino threw the can, the Star-Tribune wrote, “plumes of green and gray smoke burst over the crowd,” causing protesters and observers to flee the scene.

    That is probably not normal tear gas (which is bad enough), it’s likely HC smoke which is extremely carcinogenic (arc).

    If there is any justice for any of this someday there’s going to be a massive settlement and taxpayers are going to be paying for cancer and hospice treatment for thousands of people affected by this in a couple of decades.

    e; There was a good step by step guide for disarming these somewhere that I can’t find right now, but if memory serves it was 1. Approach with leaf blower to direct smoke away from you, 2. Drop a traffic cone over the grenade to contain its smoke a bit more, 3. Dump a mixture of water and baking soda into the cone and drown the grenade.

    e2; We don’t have definitive information that this is what it looks like for sure yet, so I added the two italicized words.

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      Or…

      1. approach with leaf blower in one hand and lacrosse staff in the other.
      2. Return to sender

      Edit: In Minnesota, lacrosse staff may be substituted with a hockey stick.

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      Hexachloroethane is suspected of causing cancer and may cause organ damage through prolonged or repeated exposure

      Sounds like they’re also shooting themselves in the foot with this one, especially since they don’t wear proper protection, from what I’ve seen

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        an El Salvadoran prison.

        I appreciate the sentiment, but we’ve done enough to that country already, and it’s not like this one lacks for prison cells

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            No, I just don’t think we should be dumping our prisoners on any other countries, Venezuela or El Salvador or anywhere else

            That said, in terms of bad stuff we’ve done to El Salvador specifically, we have propped up super brutal right wing governments there for decades specifically because it’s the northern most South American country and DC wants them to be a choke point where every wouldbe migrant from the area can get kidnapped and brutalized far enough away from the US that our journalists won’t ever notice. Like, CECOT never would have been built without US security aid.

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      I would be wary of identifying any chemical just by a loose description of its appearance like that.

      Deploying tear gas on peaceful protestors is disgusting even if it’s not toxic. It’s no different than tasing someone for no good reason, or choking them briefly for no good reason.

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        I mean, fair, I definitely would be interested in more information about this if anyone has it, but the description fits, it seems like the exact sort of dick move this administration would pull, and its probably going to be impossible to get any more information soon besides just the loose descriptions we have, so I’d say it’s more likely than not that this is HC smoke until more information becomes available.

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          It is a precedent they want to set. That is the point of all of this ICE stuff, setting precedents on this issue because it’s the one they have the most support on.

          They are setting them on this, for use in the next presidential election. And otherwise to crush protests.

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    Them freezing that order

    The ICE agents’ use of gas and chemical spray on protesters came shortly after the 8th Circuit US Court of Appeals froze an earlier ruling from US District Judge Katherine Menendez that had barred federal agents from using such forms of force on peaceful protesters.

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      There is literally no reason to be peaceful anymore. There is no reason to not be kitted the fuck out when you go to “protest” anymore. There is no reason we shouldn’t just fuckin turn safeties off imo.

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        No. They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly. Leave it to Minnesota, they’re handling it right.

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          This is some lib shit. Fuck that noise.

          If ICE keeps terrorizing communities, communities of people’s loved one, they have every right to protest that.

          I don’t know if you know this, but if ICE continue to do this shit (and they will), the the inevitable outcome is a civil war.

          This will not get better in the next year or 3 years before the next elections. It will get worse. And you’re telling people to just sit through the pain and suffering of this Admin, as if that will prevent more pain and suffering from coming.

          Tim Walz should have used the MN National Guard to defend the People of Minnesota. Ever since he was cucked by Kamala Harris after the 2024 DNC, she’s shone himself to be a limp dick that willingly bends over to lick the boot of the fascists.

          If Tim won’t protect people, they’ll do it themselves. And they’re right to.

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          They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly

          This shit drives me absolutely insane.

          They don’t need an excuse

          They’re going to do it anyway, so people need to fucking defend themselves however they can. Stop spouting this horseshit

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            This is what I’m fucking saying! They’re not pulling any punches so why the fuck are we?!

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          I understand that but imo this is not going to end well, let alone peacefully.

          I just don’t see this administration/dictatorship conceding to anything just because production might have slowed down for a little bit. They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry! How about we only prosecute a tiny fraction of agents that actually committed acts of force/violence to placate the masses” and it all cycles back around. They’re either going to get what they want or we’re going to have to stop them from taking it over our cold lifeless bodies.

          Tell me I’m exaggerating.

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            Organized citizenry capable of pulling off general strikes could exact concessions time and again as they are willing to go on general strike. Nothing would harm them more than all business in the country shutting down for an extended period of time.

            It would also show solidarity to the armed forces and security services that they plan on using to crush 1st amendment protected activity under false pretexts.

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            They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry!

            They’ll do that in a heartbeat. In fact, they do it alllll the fucking time. LA is a perfect example and relates to this. They didn’t have anyone on their side so they picked a new target.

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        I can’t say what I’d like to, so I’ll just say something about how if they’re shooting us and using banned gas grenades on us, we should be responding in kind.

        The only language these fucks understand is violence, and it will take a significantly larger amount of it visited upon them for a longer amount of time for the message to become clear. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE INTOLERANCE.

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      Other potential thickening agents include baking soda, tar, strips of tire tubing, blood, XPS foam, egg whites, rubber cement, and even dish soap.

      Ah yes let me just stroll over to my pantry and grab a few pints of blood.

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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      Hey so I’m a pro fire performer and love sharing fun facts about fire performance. In fact, I never charge for fire safety basics.

      We never use kerosene or gasoline, it’s disgusting and highly volatile. Of the two, kerosene burns a bit slower and for longer. Just avoid gasoline all together. Our common fuels are camp fuel (aka white gas or naphta) and lamp oil, both of which are wind resistant. Lamp oil burns for a long time and is slippery as hell, but it’s hard to ignite so we’ll sometimes mix it with some white gas when we want to get our props going quick. We only really use alcohols indoors since they’re not wind resistant, but they produce low smoke which is neat.

      Modern wicks are made out of 100% kevlar, but older style torches use cotton from rags or tshirts. It has to be replaced quickly but works in a pinch.

      For clothing, we only wear natural fibers. Synthetics will melt into your skin and turn a mild burn into something nasty. Naturals are bamboo, cotton, wool, and similar. Synthetics are spandex, polyester, acrylic, etc (except for purpose made synthetics like Nomex). Leather is probably the best thing you can wear, and thick denim pants are an easy to find staple. Many hoodies are also safe for fire spinning in winter but check the tags first.

      Most importantly, never use fire without a dedicated safety with a safety blanket. 100% thick wool, duvetyne, or a damp cotton towel are most common