I mean, it takes minimum 150k per year to raise a family in the US, so that tracks.
Trump used to support a Canadian-style, single-payer health care plan. However, the closer he got to the presidency, the more he backed away from that. Funny how that works.
Isn’t that basically universal basic income?
Can we call it pedo care?
Wait… when the government gives people money… that sounds like… SOCIALISM.
This is to point out his hypocrisy, not even to note that this is a stupid way of distributing money (it just goes into the hands of middle men) and only intends to generate some good sounding news instead of actually solving a problem
I can’t tell if this is sarcastic, but I’ll respond the same way regardless.
This is not socialism. Government provided social programs or financial assistance are a basic function of governance. Virtually every government on Earth does this, whether democratic, authoritarian, or communist.
In other news most countries only pay 3 to 5% of their income for universal healthcare but sure we’ll see how Pedo Care works out for Americans
We get discounted 9% of our income every month in my south American country for a deficient health care system, so we have to opt for the private option for an extra 2% of discount.
Even with that you still pay less
The clinics are still expensive and they do all they can to keep the line going up, while the hospitals are collapsed
What country?
Oxymoron
He just wants another excuse to send individuals checks with his name on it. Could be a good opportunity to virtue signal as well if the plan winds up being exclusionary toward singles or other groups.
holy shit is it really 26000?? that’s more than what i pay in tax every year in europe. (granted i am poor but)
It was like 500-600 a month for two people a decade ago but the insurance plans on the exchange have gone up in price about a 100 monthly, every year. But they also dissappear after getting too high, so there are increasingly fewer plans from new or small providers. This year it’s 1200 monthly. These plans were actually quite good though compared to regular plans people get from their employer, with 0 copay and 0 deductible. For low income people on the exchange it cost them 0-100$ monthly for them, and the subsidies covered the entire plan cost up to around 1000$ a month. So last year you could have excellent health coverage for 50 dollars a month, but no longer.
The big problem of course was that without the universal mandate, the whole obamacare plan didn’t really work long term because the cost kept going up without any of the parts to keep that price down because of the Supreme court.
these plans were actually quite good though compared to regular plans people get from their employer, with 0 copay and 0 deductible
I’m super skeptical of the 0 deductible plans. I’ve only ever seen them offered in situations where the plans can be expected to be not-great, both on the marketplace for both '25 and '26 (I’d never used the insurance marketplace before last year) and when working at a tiny company with less than 10 employees. I’m not sure how they work but given that I assume they end up costing more than plans with a deductible
the US already spends more public funds in healthcare per capita than every country with free healthcare.
on top of that, we pay a shit ton extra for insurance, then a shit ton more in copays/deductibles, plus a shit ton more because something isn’t included…
you could lower taxes by thousands and give everyone free healthcare.
the US healthcare is nothing but a massive scam. the kind where the perpetators kill tens of thousands per year and rake in endless money. there’s no justification besides rich people like being rich, even if it means killing thousands of innocents. in any civilized world those executives should be tortured to death.
Tbh this is also shocking to me as an American. I am not sure if this is only for marketplace plans or a specific kind or what
The marketplace just had their subsidies cut. Its so funny its like “here’s less than 1/3 back what we cut to line our pockets, you filthy animals, PS, fuck off and die, signed Donald Pedophile Trump.”
The insult on top of that injury is that the penalties for being uninsured weren’t removed.
Is he really just replacing like 6k+ valued ACA subsidies with 2k in subsidies that are implemented more stupidly
This plus the 50 year mortgages and I’m starting to feel relieved I’ll probably die before the real aftermath of this shit hits.
Adding $660,000,000,000 to the federal deficit annually and still not making a dent in people’s healthcare costs?
A single-payer universal healthcare system would be cheaper, as almost every other country’s systems show.
The real trick is to get private equity and for-profit corporations out of healthcare. All they do is drive up costs while lowering outcomes.
Healthcare should be a public service, funded by the government.
Yeah, the US actually pays more PUBLIC funds per person than most other nations. Then the private cost on top - all for worse health outcomes.
We need more Luigis just from a financial perspective.
as almost every other country’s systems show
You can take out the “almost” here. Literally every other country on Earth pays half or less per capita than what we pay in the US, and this has been the case for decades.
UNH, CVS, ELV and CI share holders disagree with you and thanks to the SCOTUS Citizen United decision they have to money and the legal framework to legally bribe politicians. I’ll suggest to invest in those companies rather than flight them.
26,000 for a high deductible plan.
So you can get 2k, to spend 26K, to spend 10K in deductibles before insurance covers a damn thing.
Typical NYC slumlord style: “Free first months rent.”
I looked at an apartment once which was the upstairs of a house. Dogs had eaten large chunks out of the bedroom doors and there were two giant piles of dog shit left in the kitchen. The owner was enormous and unable to climb stairs so she hadn’t seen the state of the place after the previous tenants had moved out. After I told her what the situation was, she said if I cleaned it up myself she would knock off $200 … from the security deposit. Get fucked.
His daddy was exactly that. A slumlord. Rotten apple from a rotten tree
Oh wow! In switzerland there is immense political pressure beause health insurance is very expensive.
I pay 6300 per year.
I’ve got a “Cadillac” plan in Spain, which for a family of 4 is about 5K a year. No copays or anything. Occasionally I’ll have a prescription which will cost €20, and the farmacist will get angry on my behalf.
In the US, we were paying $25,000 (pretax) in premiums for a meh plan with copays at every turn.
Is that all inclusive, or do you pay additional costs when things happen?
The distinction here is important- $26K is premiums which is money that goes to the insurance companies. You will end up paying more than that with co-pays, deductibles, etc.
So this is including the deductibles. Ater that there still is 10% in co-pay. But that is really not that much.
Usually all inclusive from what Ive heard from others. Problem is wait times. But if it’s not life threating, you’re waiting anyways in the US. United States healthcare is dominated by insurance lobbyist. Fear mongering Republicans keep the system up.
Concepts of a plan
