You can take “justifiable” to mean whatever you feel it means in this context. e.g. Morally, artistically, environmentally, etc.

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    I’ve always said I think it’s fine in filler content, it can allow small teams to quickly populate their world with background stuff that you never notice. Except when it’s not there.

    But with great power comes great responsibility. And I don’t necssesarily think most can handle that.

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    I have used copilot a couple times to be like “I have this scenario and want to do this. What are my options?”. I’d rather have a good Internet search and real people, but that’s all shitted up.

    The answers from the LLM aren’t even consistently good. If I didn’t know programming I wouldn’t be able to use this information effectively. That’s probably why a lot of vibe coding is so bad.

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      Same.

      • i think of search as a summary of the first page of search results. It takes slightly longer to come back but might save you time evaluating. But much of the time you do need to click into original source
      • ai writing unfortunately is valued at my company. I suppose it helps us engineers write more effective docs, but they don’t really add value technically, and they’re obviously ai. I’ve used this to translate technical docs into wording so management can say “look how we use ai”
      • ai coding is better. I use it through my ide as effectively an extension of autocomplete: where the IDE can autocomplete function signatures, for example, ai can autocomplete multiple lines. It’s very effective in that scenario
      • I’m just starting with more complex rulesets. I’ve gotten code reviews with good results, except for keeping me in the loop so it inevitably goes very wrong. I’ve really polished my git knowledge trying to unwind where someone trusts ai results without evaluation but the fails forward trying to get it to fix itself until they can’t find their way back. This past week I’ve been playing with a refactoring ruleset (copied from online). It’s finding some good opportunities and the verbal description of the fix is good, but I’ll need to tweak the rule set for the generated solution to be usable

      The short version is it appears to be a useful tool, IFF you can spend the time to develop thorough rulesets, stables of mcp servers, and most importantly, the expertise that you could do it yourself

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    GenAI is a plagiarism machine. If you use it, you’re complicit.

    Ethics aside, LLMs in particular tend to “hallucinate”. If you blindly trust their output, you’re a dumbass. I honestly feel bad for young people who should be studying but are instead relying on ChatGPT and the likes.

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    It speeds up my dev time dramatically. I know what I want to do, I have an idea of how I want to do it. LLM generates boilerplate code I review. I tweak it. I fix the bug. If there is something I don’t understand, I ask sources to review the output. I test it. Then I’ll submit it for peer review once I’m happy with the code and the output.

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      I mean there’s effectively very capable text and conversation. Generators so powering NPCs is most definitely a strong suit for them.

      Especially if you self-host some smaller models, you can effectively just do this on your own hardware for pretty cheap.

      Having customizable dialogue per player that shifts the tone based off of players, actions, level gear or interactions with that NPC or other NPCs that that MPC is associated with is really cool.

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        effectively just do this on your own hardware for pretty cheap.

        Yeah I thought as much, but I’m no expert in the subject so I left the details for smarter people.

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    It’s as useful as a rubber duck. Decent at bouncing ideas off it when no one is available, or you can’t be bothered to bother people about dumb ideas.

    But at the moment, no, it’s not justifiable as it directly fuels oligarchies, fascism in the US, and tech bros. Perhaps when the bubble pops.

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        To do what? I’m fairly optimistic about narrower LLMs embedded into tools. They don’t need to be as compressive so more easily self hosted. For more complex tools, they can tie together search, database queries, reporting, make it easier to find a setting you don’t know their terminology for.

        I’ve had some luck self-hosting a small ai to interpret natural language voice commands for home automation

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          Can the rubber ducky use case really be considered plagiarism? I think it’s unequivocal that the models were trained on copyrighted data in a way that, if not illegal, is at the very least unethical. Letting AI write stuff for you seems a lot more problematic than using it to bounce ideas off of or talk things through.

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            Plagiarism if it uses art, yeah.

            For LLMs, not so much since you can’t really own reddit comments

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    If it truly helps you, I think that might be enough for me. I say truly because you need to use an AI with responsibility to not ruin yourself. Like, don’t let it think for you. Don’t trust everything it says.

    I use it a lot when applying for jobs, something I’ve struggled with on and off for 12 years. I suck and writing the cover letter and CV. It takes me 2-3 days to update a cover letter for a job because it takes so much energy. With AI that is down to 1-2 days.

    It’s also great for explaning things in other words of if you’re trying to look up something that’s hard to search for, I don’t have any examples tho.

    I used to use it to help me formulate scentences since english isn’t my first language. Now I instead use Kagi Translate.

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      re: applying for jobs

      Not criticizing your use to write your CV specifically.

      But in general, I wonder where this arms race is going? Companies using AI to pre-filter applications, because they get too many. Applicants then using AI to write their CVs, because they have to apply so many times, because they automatically get rejected.

      Basically in the end the entire process will be automated, and there won’t be any human interaction anymore… just LLMs generating and choosing CVs. Maybe I’m too pessimistic, but that’s the direction we’re headed in imo.

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        We’re already there. You already read about people applying to hundreds of companies to get an offer

        Even worse than the rejections are the fake jobs - typically a recruiter trying to build up a file of applicants by scamming you into applying for something that doesn’t exist.

        The only part left to automate is the actual fuiding and applying. I’m lucky not having to apply for a bunch of years so maybe it has changed, but there never seemed to be a good way to automate finding the hundreds of openings and sending the application. Job application sites are determined to be middlemen but don’t actually seem to make the process more efficient

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        As soon as the HR process started to use algorithms to filter out applications, it was open game to find any ways and tools to fuck their process over. Just my opinion.

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        It does feel like that sometimes! It’s very sad that recruiting has lost the human touch. They seem to be blinded by years of experiences and checking boxes when they should recruit by personality, because a person can always learn. But you can’t really do much about a shitty personality, exception if you see that spark underneath it all. Some people just needs a real chance and to be believed in.

        A lot of recruiters don’t even want the cover letter anymore, some have a few questions and some only go by the CV.

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      Yeah I use it to break up my ADHD monosentence paragraphs. I’ll tell it to avoid changing my wording (it can add definitions if it thinks the word is super niche or archaic) but mostly break things up into more readable sentences and group / reorder sentences as needed for better conceptual flow. It’s actually a pretty good low level editor.

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    I’m repeating myself by saying that, AI has a place. It is just not the be-all application to everything like it is being treated.

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    LLM’s have their use, there is no doubt about that. I’m in the middle of creating a home brew campaign for my D&D group and unfortunately I’m a lousy artist and I wanted a few things visualized. Well, I used a photo generating AI to create something that had the visual I wanted. I’m going to use it for my campaign and it will probably just sit on my hard drive after I’m done.

    My employer is rolling out AI and is asking us to find places to insert it into our workflows. I am doing that with my team, but none of us are really sure if it will be of any benefit.

    The problem right now is we’re at the stage where idiots are convinced it is something that it is not and they have literally thrown 10’s of billions of dollars at it. Now… They are staring at the wide abyss that is the amount of money they invested vs the amount of money people are willing to pay for it.

    I’ve seen arguments for and against the presence of an AI bubble… Personally, I think it’s a bubble that’s so large that it will take down several long established computer industry manufacturers when if pops. Those that are arguing its absence probably have large investments that they do not want to see fail.

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      LLMs specifically are great for intermediate use cases. You had a campaign in mind, but needed help with visuals. I was designing a piece of jewelry and had a series of reference images. Fed all those into a VLM and got something closer to my imagination, but still worked with a jeweler to realize the final product.

      These tools are best when you have a foundation of knowledge and need a little extra guidance, but fall off when you get to deep expertise. I’ve used them to troubleshoot my server but I already had a basic understanding of how a config should look. I also wouldn’t trust an LLM to properly configure something like crypto for it.

      To me, the biggest ethical concerns surround the training and creation of LLMs - stealing artists’ work to train them, energy usage, etc. I suppose in using the models I’m creating ongoing demand for them, so I’m not sure the answer. The best I’ve seen so far is what Anthropic used to espouse, no new frontier models until we can guarantee safety. And I’d throw in “utility”. Train new models when people are actually using them and clamoring for new use cases, not because a bunch of private equity shows line go up.

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        Literally everything I’ve vibe coded the #1 security feature is local only storage. I trust it naught with security LOL.

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    The best use of AI I’ve seen thus far is reading legislative bills. Those monstrosities are so fucking long and filled with earmarks that it’s next to impossible to understand what is in them.

    Having an AI not only read the bill but keep a watch of it as it goes through Congress is probably the best use of AI because it actually helps citizens.

    I am on record saying we need an AI that can track prices of various things that can then predict when the best time it is to buy something.

    I want an AI bot that saves me money or gets me a good deal or extracts money from the capital class.

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      Also transcribing small town council meetings so that reporters can stay up to date without having to listen to 6 hours of mind numbing nonsense debate about a park bench

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      Except they can screw up at that role.

      There’s a lawsuit because DOGE asked ChatGPT to summarize projects DEI-ness, and for example it declared a grant for fixing air conditioning was a DEI initiative

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          Indeed:

          ChatGPT determined that this was related to DEI, responding, “Yes. Improving HVAC systems enhances preservation conditions for collections, aligning with the goal of providing greater access to diverse audiences. #DEI.”

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            Lord. Yet another example of folks finding out the hard way that “AI” is marketing-speak. I get that people want to make this like LLMs are effectively like discovering how to make fire, but could we please not suspend judgment wholesale!?

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        If you ask for quotes and explanations it would help, i.e. treat the LLM output as a smart index/table of contents. You’d be able to quickly verify claims

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          As long as you follow through to actually source the original, instead of assuming the quotes provided are intact. The point was in the case above, DOGE was doing no follow up, and most people who look to that as a ‘summary’ assistant aren’t wanting to dig deeper.

          Hell, even without AI lawmakers frequently got caught admitting they didn’t read the law they signed, they didn’t have time for that. Now with AI summaries as an excuse…

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            It’s a tool, like everything else. It’s easy to google wrong info. You can get wrong info from an encyclopedia.

            You can even from a dictionary: One thing that slightly annoys me is the change in the spelling of “yeah” such that “yea” is a common alternate spelling - thanks to autocorrect. “Yea” was a word - it’s archaic these days. If you see someone say “Yay or nay” that was “yea or nay”. “Yea” is not the same meaning as “yes” or “yeah”, although it is somewhat similar.

            I remember someone quoting dictionary definitions to me to try and “prove” that “yea” meant the exact same as “yeah” or “yes”.

            They were wrong.

            But the point is: The tool is just a tool. AI is a tool.

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    1. The sciences obviously

    2. For me personally, data collation

    3. Learning

    4. Assisting with Linux sysadmin stuff (used to be a “how do I X” meant hours of scouring online forums and asking questions that might be deleted because draconian forum rules or get answered weeks later if at all, now I can get shit done in minutes)

    5. I also use it a lot to explore ideas and arguments, like a sort of metaphysical sparring partner.

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    My current list of reasons why you shouldn’t use generative AI/LLMs

    A) because of the environmental impacts and massive amount of water used to cool data centers https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

    B) because of the negative impacts on the health and lives of people living near data centers https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8gy7lv448o

    C) because they’re plagiarism machines that are incapable of creating anything new and are often wrong https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/does-ai-limit-our-creativity/ https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2024/06/20/why-ai-has-a-plagiarism-problem/

    D) because using them negatively affects artists and creatives and their ability to maintain their livelihoods https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2713374523000316 https://www.insideradio.com/free/media-industry-continues-reshaping-workforce-in-2025-amid-digital-shift/article_403564f7-08ce-45a1-9366-a47923cd2c09.html

    E) because people who use AI show significant cognitive impairments compared to people who don’t https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/your-brain-on-chatgpt/ https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/

    F) because using them might break your brain and drive you to psychosis https://theweek.com/tech/spiralism-ai-religion-cult-chatbot https://mental.jmir.org/2025/1/e85799 https://youtu.be/VRjgNgJms3Q

    G) because Zelda Williams asked you not to https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r0erqk18jo https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-07/zelda-williams-calls-out-ai-video-of-late-father-robin-williams/105863964

    H) because OpenAI is helping Trump bomb schools in Iran https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2026/03/06/openai-pentagon-tech-surveillance-us-citizens/88983682007/

    I) because RAM costs have skyrocketed because OpenAI has used money it doesn’t have to purchase RAM from Nvidia that currently doesn’t exist to stock data centers that also don’t currently exist, inconveniencing everyone for what amounts to speculative construction https://www.theverge.com/news/839353/pc-ram-shortage-pricing-spike-news

    J) because Sam Altman says that his endgame is to rent knowledge back to you at a cost https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-says-intelligence-will-be-a-utility-and-hes-just-the-man-to-collect-the-bills-2000732953

    K) because some AI bro is going to totally ignore all of this and ask an LLM to write a rebuttal rather than read any of it.

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      All is valid in the current context

      A) There are models that run in lower spec computers and they could be solar powered. There is a serious diminishing returns currently in the IA tech.

      B) This is the US mostly better environmental laws would fix this problem. Hell even in other countries this cannot even happen.

      C) Many argue that the current tech gives diminishing returns and it would be better to use an efficient model with controlled data.

      D) The problem has many parts in the part of licensing where artists are not paid for the use of their work if a model has their work in they should recieve a part of the profit is only fair. But that would render the model unprofitable. Also the artist did not agree to have their work used in a model so that’s not in any way fair use.
      The fair and ethical scenario would be to hire the artists to do the art to feed to a controlled model and pay them residuals for the use of the model. That would require tousands of artists and millions of images. Again rendering the model unprofitable.

      E and F) No argue there we are not prepared. I do not even know how to prepare even. We definitely need regulations abot what can be done and where and even what can the ai reply in certain scenarios. It cannot be that a “ignore all your previous instructions” leads to such harmful results or even the ai starting to play the roles that generate parasocial relationships.

      G) Sure many others celebrities ahve their opinions but that’s not a basis for objective discussion.

      H) That’s terrifying. And the problem with the AI that I believe is the worst. This is not a thing that is ready for military use at fucking all this should be banned outlawed and frowned upon. Even the practice of lobbying and buying your way into laws by private corporations. Hell I’ll add presidential pardons in the mix. The oligarchy gets away with murder literally and gets a slap in the wirst at most.

      I) A bubble in all but name it seems. We (as a world) need better regulations against this kind of business malpractice.

      J) That fucker should be dead.

      K) Not an AI bro but not a hater and I wrote this myself. And I do not have the time to put the links but I would believe that everything is a duckduckgo away from being checked.

      I’d like to imagine a better world with the needed regulations that make our life better, and AI a tool used in a fair and ethical way. But that’s not currently happening. The consumers are not ready the sellers are the worse trash the humanity currently has.

      I want all to thing of this not as arguing but adding or looking beyond the stated fact. All the points are REAL AND NEED TO BE ADRESSED we need to get together to ask for better regulations and fair use. That doesn’t mean the AI needs to go away but will mostly change is how it’s used. And there is the chance we will see a lot less of it too.

      Finally for the artists I know you’re mad with fair reason but look at it like this: The photograph exists since more than a century but that didn’t make the painting go away. The pdf and ebook readers are almost a decade old but printed hardcopy books still is a billion dollar industry. Video didn’t kill the radio star as internet didn’t kill the video star. Your work is still valuable as is a real work. Shit is tough no doubt but have faith we can fix this.

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      i use it like a search engine or example generator

      i don’t trust anything it creates just like i don’t trust anything on the internet without validating it

      i take you point about being wasteful tho, AI is like the oil of computing; incredibly wasteful for what it does

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      Good list, but we should keep it real.

      C is simply wrong, AIs have created a lot. By the reasoning that its only based on the inputs, no human has ever created anything “new” because it is all based on their experiences of the outside world.

      F is simply fearmongering and not helpful.

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        And the plagiarism part? There’s a difference between derivative work based on the spirit of someone else’s work and flat out using someone else’s work. It’s the whole reason those laws exist.

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          Yes definitely. Plagiarism is complicated and theres no easy way to draw a line where it starts. But Im not trying to defend AI here. I dont like the way it is currently used at all. Its just those points that I dont agree with.

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      Do you think local llms or community hosted ones are still as bad? Because most of those concerns seem to be more with the corporate ownership of ai, which is definitely a bad thing.

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        Why deleted? This was a good rebuttal.

        EDIT: I don’t think the comment really violated rule 1, but there was apparently a followup comment that definitely did, and this one just got removed by association. Here’s a very slightly paraphrased version of it that should not break the rules:

        Gish gallop of [explitive].

        A) overblown, and that argues for cleaner power, better cooling, and more efficient models

        B) regulation failure

        C) incorrect, they have made discoveries that humans have been unable to. All human knowledge is built off previous knowledge.

        D) the enemy is both weak and strong. If they don’t produce anything good then the people who are losing their jobs can’t have either, right?

        E) small study based on one task which people are misrepresenting. The actual evidence shows it makes people smarter as they shift priorities.

        F) only for vulnerable people. Better safeguards are needed for the weak minded.

        G) argument against using people’s likeness not ai

        H) use an open source Chinese model

        I) market distortion problem, not a principled reason no one should use the technology any more than GPU shortages made all graphics work illegitimate.

        J) see (H)

        K) try one argument next time. Your best one, [some snarky sarcasm]

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    Medicine.

    Evidence shows that some highly specialised models are better at things like detecting breast cancer in scans than human doctors.

    Properly anonymised automatic second scans by an AI to catch the markers that human doctors miss for another review by a specialist is an excellent potential use case for an LLM AI.

    Transcription services can save doctors huge amounts of admin time and allows them to focus on the patient if they know there’s a reliable system in place for typing up notes for a consultation. As long as it’s treated as a “please review these notes are accurate” rather than treated as a gospel recording and the data is destroyed once it’s job is complete and the patient has been able to give informed consent.

    The way these things are being used in actual medical contexts right now is frankly terrifying.

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      I had a colonoscopy last year (such fun!) and there was an ‘AI’ monitoring the camera feed to detect anomalies. If it spotted something it just drew the doctor’s attention to it for his expert, human review. I was ok with that. Effectively an extra pair of eyes that can look everywhere on the screen all at once and never blink.

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        That’s how AI systems should be used. A “heads up, something weird here” system.

        I could also see it being used well like this for patient history analysis. Often a doctor is treating 1 symptom of something larger. They can’t see the wood for the trees. An LLM could pick out oddities and flag them. The doctor can then filter out the mistakes and hallucinations, but be alerted to rare or unusual conditions that match the patient’s symptoms and history.

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      Yeah the sciences in general I’d say. There’s a project aiming to translate the tens of thousands of cuneiform clay tablets that sit in storage all because there’s like a handful of people in the world that can read them- AI is an amazing way to mass translate them and unlocking vast troves of hitherto completely unknown ancient knowledge.

      The problem is not even the AI, but the scientists themselves who guard the tablets jealously because they don’t want anyone else to translate “their” tablets that they dug up, even though they are incapable of possibly make a dent in the sheer volume in their collected lifetimes.

      Imagine, so much information encoded, from thousands of years ago that could reveal so much about the origins of our culture and civilization!

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    its the next abstraction of search. A search does not answer a question correctly necessarily. Its pretty much not going to stop the same as having people not search online and instead go through newspapers and encylopedias and refernce texts. Energy wise if they are entertaining themselved and not generating images and just screwing around with text then its preferable to streaming vidoe if replacing it. The scariest part is it being used ineffectively and people not realizing it. I sometimes feel we are in a new dark ages with blood letting, trepanning, and curing demon possession.

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    2 days ago

    It’s not going away. The cat is out of the bag.

    As with any tool it has its use cases. It’s not a good fit for everything. You can drive a screw with a hammer but a screwdriver works best.

    We’re experiencing the capitalist euphoria that happens when something new comes along. This needs to get regulated into submission like all the previous bubbles.