Crew members were still wearing their Disney uniforms when they were escorted away from the boat with their hands zip-tied behind their backs, reports say

Some travelers on Disney’s Magic cruise ship were left disturbed earlier this month after ICE agents stormed onto the vessel and detained several crew members.

Immigrant rights groups said at least 10 crew members were detained at the Port of San Diego on April 23 after the Disney-run cruise ship returned following a five-day trip.

Dharmi Mehta and her family had enjoyed their trip, but were upset when they saw the head waiter, whom they had become close with, being led away from the docked boat with his hands zip-tied behind his back.

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    “Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They’re allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they’re robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.” — Anne Frank

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      Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh…I have bad news for future Anne Frank. Also bad news for present day America.

      It’s the same news.

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    Wait, these crew members were on a ship, not on US soil. US Customs and Immigration is on land which you have to pass through to get to the USA. ICE actually dragged them onto US soil just so they could say they were there illegally? WTF?!

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      Technically you need permission to dock. It means that the entire crew manifest was known to the government prior to arrival and they were given permission to dock. Then they were arrested. If there was a problem with them being in the US they should never have been given permission.

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      Apparently DCL registers its ships in the Bahamas. I don’t know if ICE/CBP have jurisdiction on foreign ships without a bunch of warrants.

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        They seem to think they have jurisdiction in AMERICAN CITIZENS’ HOUSES without a judicial warrant; surely foreign ships are considered gimmes.

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      ICE actually dragged them onto US soil just so they could say they were there illegally?

      Oh you sweet summer child: ICE has already executed American citizens in broad daylight (on camera) for exercising their constitutional rights. Why would laws matter now?

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        I’m not talking about laws. I’m talking about their supposed mandate to deport those in the US illegally. These folks on the ship weren’t even in the USA so there was no need to take them into the USA to deport them.

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          There’s also plenty of people in the US legally they have detained and deported / have killed.

          Their mandate is racism, control, and projecting power.

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        I’m thinking these crew members couldn’t get their I-95’s and got deported

        I’m thinking nobody bothered to check the paperwork and they just grabbed some people that weren’t “white enough”.

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      That’s not how it works.

      Any ship in any country 's territorial waters is subject to that country’s laws.

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    I’m confused, cruise ships usually have all their work permits and stuff handled ahead of time for the crew. How can you be an illegal immigrant if you’re just working on a boat for a day and not staying here?

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      Because ICE don’t give a fuck about facts. They have been arresting, incarcerating and murdering legal American citizens too. They have Trump and Vance’s backing.

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        and MSM have basically stopped reporting it, likely to change the narrative when fox and grifter news decide to report on it, its just sound bytes for fox for years. “california,NYC is a hellhole, allowing illegal immigrants”-right wing news, and right wing youtubers.

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      As far as I know almost no cruise ships are actually American flagged vessels and therefore are perfectly able to directly employ foreign nationals without citizenship or US work authorization. They aren’t even under the jurisdiction of ICE.

      Disney ships are all Bahamanian flagged ships and have absolutely no obligation to employ American citizens.

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      Legality has nothing to do with it. It is super simple.

      ABC didn’t fire Jimmy Kimmel.The people on that ship are paying a high cost for that defiance. They are merely externalities for Disney’s punishment. I suppose terrifying people is a nice side effect for those in charge. But retribution is the motivation.

      Simple as that.

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      Because they want numbers not rights. The new leader of the agency said they would deport more people than any other period. (Trump hasn’t even reached half of Obama peak deportation numbers.) when you try to deport every immigrant it slows the deportation of the violent ones.

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    I wonder how the Mickey takes his whiskey? Neat?

    When corporations start bleeding profits bc of the terrible tangerine pedo, maybe they’ll start caring

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      They actually love brown people. They want their cheap labor and this stuff keeps people afraid and makes them keep their head down. It has the added benefit that they get to parade it around to their electorate like ‘something is being done’

      It’s theater to keep poor white people in fly over states from realizing that the people in power are the ones selling them out and have been the entire time.

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          They didn’t say it was just theater. Interpreting it as theater is a privileged take, but I think it’s also true that one of the motivations of this horror show is to indulge the racism of the MAGA base to distract them from how they’re getting fucked over by this administration too.

          Multiple things can be true at once.

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          For a ton of people it is theater.

          ICE isn’t showing up in their neighborhood or at their work place. Their only experience with that shit is on the news or tiktok and it’s in a state they don’t live in and have never been to.

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        They aren’t immigrants at all if they are the crew of a Bahamanian flagged vessel, as all Disney cruise ships are. They aren’t under the jurisdiction of ICE at all for the simple fact that they aren’t employed in America in the first place.

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          Which means that the next container ships or tankers that wants to dock will have to have some worry in the back of their mind that they could be next.

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        Or in the cases of Renee Goode and Alex Pretti, they’ll kill white people too. It’s all about who they consider opposition.

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    Not that I really expect Disney to ever do the right thing as such, but I can dream about Disney lawyers going all…

    …in court for ICE fucking around with their “WOW” customer service ethos and therefore their bottom line.

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    …and the World Cup is around the corner. Stay home and watch it on TV or in your local pub, unless you have tickets for the matches in Mexico and Canada.

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    edit Am I on drugs or did the article get updated? The section about charges is completely gone so maybe the below statement isn’t true.

    Look I’m as anti-ICE as the rest of you, but did anyone read the charges? OP conveniently left out of their summary that these workers were arrested and deported as part of a child sexual exploitation material bust.

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      I see where you are coming from and I’d agree if that’s the case, but it’s also the case that I don’t trust ICE.

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        For fucking real. “ICE says”, “The FBI states”, “President Trump screams” and so many other ways to preface absolute bullshit just leads to me ignoring it.

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        Right, ICE also claims all the people they arrest are rapists and murderers. So yeah, they broke that trust and all I’m thinking is they made up more bogus charges.

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      Look I’m as anti-ICE as the rest of you,…

      Obviously not cause you believe what they say. When they’ll say anything to get what they want. Why did ICE do this? Why not the FBI? Why ICE? Is it because ICE is better equipped to handle this situation? Perhaps it is because ICE will accept any order given without question or concern for an individual’s rights?

      I’d put my wager on the later.

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      Also, it’s “The Independent”. I hate their clickbait nonsense and I refuse to actually click on any of their articles for the last ten years. This is like the left wing version of Daily Heil in terms of bad journalism.

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    OMG we are going to be so fucked when the supply chains start to break down. Who the fuck is going to bring goods to America if there is a chance your going to get arrested for doing business with them?

    This is so comically stupid, that it kind of takes the wind out of how bad this is.