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“I hate being a housewife. You cook, you clean, you do laundry, and then six months later you have to do it all again.”
Joan Rivers
Unironically me with anything to do with dust
It just doesn’t bother me. I sanitize stuff, but I can raise a whole dust bunny farm for 6 months before I touch the vacuum cleaner
Get a robot vacuum. Damn
[ peaks head out from under pile of dust bunnies ]
No! 😠 No clankers in my house!
[ pets dust bunny like a Bond villain ]
six months?!!
Hey, go argue with Joan.
Can we talk…?
It’s made to go off before you do
Speaking as a standup comic, not being literal.
Remember housework used to be considered a job that needed a full time adult to attend to
We could just go back to dirt floors
Still gotta sweep those (seriously)
I know, but I bet it would still seriously lower everyone’s standard for what it means to have a clean house
Apparently one thing that has contributed to more housework is better lighting. When indoor lighting was a fire and soot was everywhere, not a lot of time was spent cleaning up. Once it became oil, more cleaning was done, but you still couldn’t see as much dirt. Fast forward a few centuries and people have good quality lighting everywhere, so every bit of dirt is easily seen.
And now you see me putting a 300 lumen light at a low angle to the ground to see the dust while I broom it.
Yes, back in the day when clothes were washed by vigorously rubbing them against a washboard, and then one-by-one cranking them through a wringer / mangle to dry them. Rugs were cleaned by taking them outside, hanging them on a line, and beating them with a carpet beater. Clothes were expensive, so any time they were damaged it was up to the wife to sew and mend them, and often she’d be sewing new ones too. Bread wasn’t something you bought at the supermarket, it was something you made at home using basic ingredients like flour and water. Eggs came from a backyard chicken coop, and the wife had to feed the chickens too. And so on, and so on…
The 1950s and 60s had many of our modern conveniences and yet the standard was for 1 adult to handle the household
The 1950s are a really atypical time in history. The US was the victor in a world war, and the only country whose infrastructure didn’t get absolutely smashed. Workers still had labour protections won during the great depression. And, full electrification with easily available electrical appliances was brand new.
Then the other adult fed everyone, and there was nothing left for fun or travel or higher education or personal betterment other than an hour of church one day a week.
Fantasizing about the fulfillment of hard work without the expectation of actually doing hard manual labor is an affliction of wealthy Westerners.
Maybe I dream of days when that was possible because me and my spouse work all fucking week and if we had a kid it would basically take half our income to have our kid raised by fucking strangers. Or one of us stays home for a few years until the kid is in school also costing us half our income and placing us all into abject poverty because one average wage cannot sustain a household in any semblance of comfort.
But yeah fuck me for wanting the life I literally saw my grandparents have on one income. My grandfather didn’t even finish high-school and spent his whole life doing manual labor. They weren’t rich, and they struggled, but they made it. If we tried to live the way they did on 1 income we’d be fucking homeless.
You’re longing for a life one generation enjoyed in their prime. It was a flash in time. It didn’t even last their entire lives, many people in that age group are already in a precarious situation financially, unless they’ve managed to pass away before 2007. You’re fantasizing about a specific economic climate that also largely relied on Jim Crow policies to inequitably grow resources for white people only.
A huge majority of humans ever to have lived, across all of our history as a species, suffered through subsistence farming, which you can go and experience right now today. It sucks. It ruins your body. It’s a curse you can’t help but pass along to your children unless they are smart enough to be sent away to school in a city.
My grandparents got married in the 70s my dude so maybe tone down the Jim Crow stuff before getting all the facts.
I’ll never feel guilty for wanting what previous generations had when we are currently expirencing growing wealth inequality and seeing billionaires flaunting their wealth. It’s a guided age and if we take that excess back we can all live better. Stop defending the rich
We have the resources, we have the technology, and we allow it to be used for the 1%
My child, maybe let’s both take a beat to understand that we’re a generation apart. I’m likely as old as your parents; my grandfather fought in WWII. My parents we’re married in the 70s.
I also have a masters degree in economic policy, so maybe understand, sweet child, that you have very impractical, rose-tinted glasses for some Boomer era that still relied on a boatload of racism, and was entirely unsustainable, filled with poison, and centered on profits above people. It’s a universe away from what you actually want.
I beg you to learn about economic history before you yearn for anything of the past. The future needs to be made new for a modern era, not stocked together from nostalgia.
I’m going to hope this is a cultural difference, and you are roughly my parents age. However, imagining a stranger my parent’s age calling me, a grown ass man with a mortgage and everything, “child” or “sweet child” is just weird. Respectfully you’d need to be at least 20 years older for that to be comfortable to me, or working at a waffle house.
Anyway we are funneling more and more wealth to the top. Reclaim that and we can all live just like my grandparents and your parents. Maybe even a bit better.
And don’t worry I’m quite familiar with history. Built a career out of it myself. I just see significantly larger causes for income inequality than racial discrimination and race based exploitation alone explains.
Yes western nations even today extract wealth from poorer nations. Consumers do benefit by getting “goods”. This exhange benefits the wealthy more than the consumer. I’d gladly give up cheap goods like phones or cars for affordable commodities like food, shelter, and healthcare.
I don’t yearn for suburbia, I yearn to be able to live. To have a family. To not worry day to day what horrible shit my country will do only to benefit the rich.
The cultural difference seems to be you seem to take everything literally. It’s a touch of absurdist sarcasm that is a play on the GOT phrase “my sweet summer child.” Did you really not get that?
Y’all gotta lighten up just a bit or this shit’ll kill you before you ever affect it.
I really think a lot of generational hate is rooted in simple envy that somebody else happened to win the being-born lottery. Can be about family money, historical timing, having the exact eye color Kayleigh thinks is hot… whatever.
Are you from the USA? I recall hearing that post-war USA was a huge golden era for them since the rest of the world was rebuilding, so it’s not the best thing to compare to since it will likely never happen again
I’m only able to keep up with it during my summer break from teaching. That said, I’ve told people that it’s a matter of energy, not time*. I get my house spotless in two hours a week, but doing just one 90 minute lecture drains me to the point that the last thing I want to do is clean.
*Note: Folding clothes can fuck off, somehow that nonsense takes an hour with minimal impact on my home.
That’s my issue. Our house isn’t very big, just a smallish farmhouse. It doesn’t take long to actually clean it. But after working full time as a truck driver, coming home and having to clean while I’m mentally exhausted from work is why our house looks like a pig ran amuck in it (we have pigs, they don’t come inside the house often)
Here’s the thing about folding clothes, Professor: it’s a 2-minute task if you fold the clothes right after they come out of the dryer. It’s when you let laundry pile up that it becomes a marathon.
I know this, but I still occasionally let mine build up, and i regret it every time.
I’d say it’s about 20 minutes per load, and three tend to be done a week and some change. The main problem is also having kids who are too young to help me but old enough to need a full set of clothes every day (+pajamas).
But at least there’s podcasts to listen to while doing it…
Ah yes. Kids clothes add a lot of time.
Now you get the appeal of minimalism. If cleaning is taking too much time, then reduce the amount of things you have to clean.
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Then I’ll finally be able to afford to want more, buy more, and spend more
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They can be the same thing. COMPETITIVE HOUSEKEEPING YEEHAAAW!!!
The only one I do is EXTREME IRONING!!!
DomestiCORE 6000!!
Having a mid physique means all the textures were made for you and don’t warp in weird ways.
This is why polyamory took off
I honestly see the appeal of it
Doesn’t the amount of dishes just skyrocket tho
Yeah but that’s why you get a partner who is good at dishes and doesn’t mind doing them if you vacuum. You just happen to be better a vacuuming. It’s the same idea that makes trading with other countries better than doing everything local.
This is why polygamy took off.
The difference? I personally haven’t had any good experiences with any of these words
Polygamy = man has many wives
Polyamory = person has many partners
As i understand it, it’s all about how much misogyny is at play
a man with multiple wives is polygyny or a harem.
polygamy can be any gender, but if I were to guess, polygamy is one-to-many relationship (man with multiple wives, woman with multiple husbands), while polyamory is just a group of people all in a group relationship
I know it’s a joke, but please hear me out… Just get roommates to share chores with.
The majority of people out there are not cut out to be poly.
The majority of people I have known in poly relationships are not cut out to be poly.
IME, a significant amount of people are not cut out to be roommates, either. Including me, I’ve been a shitty roommate (I can’t bring myself to clean regularly and I have severe insomnia) and the only thing that changed is that I live by myself now.
You don’t need to fuck the other people to split costs and chores.
As you age, the amount of effort increases. At least, it seems to.
The amount of effort it takes me not to eat everything and destroy my mid physique
When your “cheat day” results in a near 10-lb swing! “WTF!? I had 1 donut!”
One of the reasons it is important to find a decently paying part-time job: so you can have enough time for these things.
A decently paying part-time job is so rare that it’s basically an oxymoron
No, that’s just a high paying skilled job that does part time. Medical jobs are plentiful or specialty things.
Fair, but at part time hours I could never afford cost-of living. My partner and I are both full-time skilled healthcare workers and find that the increases in cost of living are putting a squeeze on our monthly budget, which often leaves me wondering how the rest of the world manages.
I’m a corporate goober, fully institutionalized. I know no other life.
The notion of part time seems so absurd. I’m not saying it is wrong or bad, but just so puzzling, like a concrete life preserver.
I would love to work part time, but nobody would hire a part time cybersecurity leader. The effort it would take to make that institutional change to job sharing would be tremendous. It would just be easier to hire someone else for a little more money.
Actually I know some people …. Depending on what you do for cybersecurity. There’s a good market for contractors to do security audits and pen testing - as a contractor you potentially have time off between gigs and can choose how much you work (assuming you can pull in the contracts)
Imagine being the guy …. The next big supply chain attack, the business is on the line, and they call you. The cybersecurity expert: your word is god’s word, no budget too big when the company is on the line
I am the guy they yell at when no budget is small enough. Please sir may I upgrade the ancient platform that is full of security vulnerabilities or replace it with something more modern. NO and we just put out a $2m go-get, fuck you
(A go-get is when the exec and c-suite want you to give back some or all of your budget because they want it for no reason. Usually the reason is they pissed away too much money on something stupid and unplanned and have to cover the hole. It’s 100% bullshit and I fucking HATE it. What’s the point of setting a budget when you’re just going to steal that shit back half way through the project? Fucking assholes).
Only one time in my career was there a “spare no expense” event at a very big bank that rhymes with shmase. They moved heaven and earth to fix that shit. Of course, they have all the money anyway, so while it was impressive to me, it was probably a rounding error for the people that actually see the real money. Anyone else, when shit goes wrong they just bend the employees over and withhold bonuses and comp increases. I got a fat spot bonus for the one big bank event.
Pilots are the peak version of this
Oh no they don’t! If they want to force me to work with guns, I’m fine with that.
They will have a few grunts less.
Life was a lot easier, before we made it so easy.
Also the definition of “ish” has a lot of wiggle room.
Start working on a cruise ship where you don’t need a house.
I have to always mop when it snows. And when i mow the lawn. So there is a sweet spot when there is no snow and no lawn mowing where i only mop once a week!
Work smarter, not harder.
