• Doom@lemmy.world
    12·
    8 days ago

    Wifi? You may as well believe in magic. Buy a box of cable and one of these!

    No testers - raw dog it. Party like a Quake party in 1999.

    • rmuk@feddit.ukEnglish
      10·
      8 days ago

      And now I will sing a traditional song of my people.

      🟧⬜,🟧,🟩⬜,🟦,🟦⬜,🟩,🟫⬜,🟫.

        • adjectivenoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          8 days ago

          OK so I just learned, like, last week that there are two standards. Why are there two standards? WTF?

          (The context is I was turning an Ethernet cable into an EtherCAT cable, which is a stupid industrial standard where you only wire up pins 1, 2, 3, and 6, and then charge the end user 200 times more for the cable.)

          • RamRabbit@lemmy.world
            3·
            8 days ago

            There are two standards as it allows one to make a crossover cable. (Do B on one side and A on the other)

            I also find crossover cables completely useless and refuse to own one less it gets mixed into the pile. Everyone has a router/switch, which negates the need completely.

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      8 days ago

      I bought a cheap tool years ago and a few hundred feet of cat6 and some connectors and wall plates

      ran my main AP off my own crimped cords for years without issue. speed tests always showed full speed

  • heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
    10·
    8 days ago

    The router is useless-ish without the $3 snakey boi.

    “Ish?” Because you could set it up as a Wireless repeater?

    • Ephera@lemmy.ml
      4·
      8 days ago

      You can get routers which use a SIM card for getting internet access. They’re pretty cool. You just plug them into a wall outlet and bam, you’ve got your WiFi with internet access.

      Plus you can even get them with integrated powerbank, so you really don’t need to plug anything anymore.

    • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
      3·
      8 days ago

      Yes, some wireless routers can be used as repeaters.

      Routers like that are really multi-purposes devices that handle routing, switching, and wireless. If you’re only using a local network, you can still have the wifi network and all your devices communicate through that. You just won’t have internet access.

      With out the router/switch, the cable’s usefullness is reduced - at least in the networking application we’re talking about (the cable itself is incredibly usesful for many other things besides ethernet). You can connect (most) devices directly together for communication, they’ll just self assign an IP address.

      In less words, you can have a network with just a wireless router and no cable, but you can’t have a network with only a cable and no router (well, you can’t with ‘normal people’ devices)(also you don’t need a router for a local network, only a switch - but the home versions are often combo devices and just called a router).

  • nymnympseudonym@piefed.socialEnglish
    7·
    8 days ago

    WiFi has its problems but they don’t include a tiny plastic tab costing $0.002 that inevitably breaks off, making the physical connection susceptible to fail at the tiniest touch of a butterfly’s wing

  • shneancy@lemmy.world
    5·
    8 days ago

    i love cables, cables are the best thing, give me snakey boy, give me wired headphones, give me wired keyboard and mice

  • nonentity@sh.itjust.works
    3·
    8 days ago

    Wireless data links should be the exclusive domain of temporary, nomadic and/or sacrificial links.

    If the channel is permanent, static, or critical; as much of the path as practicable should be provisioned with constrained energy transmission.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    8 days ago

    I climbed up in the roof crawl space (by no stretch is it an “attic”) and ran Cat6 to every room in my house 15 years ago. The living room and two smaller bedrooms got one, and the master bedroom got two.

    I’m very happy with the upgrade. I also run WiFi, of course, for phones and tablets, and my kid’s Steam Deck, etc.

    • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      I did the same but cat6a like 5 years ago. Though mine was primarily to limit wireless packet snooping/attacks, especially for devices that never got wpa3 support, not speed. There’s like 50-60 devices on my network and all but two were wireless…

        • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 days ago

          I just ran patch cables, got them from Monoprice. Every room got a different color, in case I ever need to repair/replace a rooms connecting cable. Router to switch, switch to wall, wall to attic to other wall, wall to device. With faceplates + keystone jacks between the two sides of the walls.

          • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
            1·
            8 days ago

            Patch cable is stranded so it is pretty flexible. I can’t imagine you’ll need to redo one unless some nefarious animal starts gnawing on something.

            • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              8 days ago

              Yeah, it’s one of those things where I was like, ‘it’s no extra cost, and can save me headaches in the future’ so why not. And I used the same colors for the entire run of each room, so if I ever forget what color a room is, I just look at the wall plate and cable.

    • teslekova@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      Knocked a hole in the wall for my network cables in the 90s. My mum thought I could have, like, asked first. So fussy.

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
    2·
    8 days ago

    I’ve grown to hate these routers. They only seem useful if you live in an apartment and place them in the middle and your walls are made of paper. Bought a few through the years thinking more money = better wifi, but wall construction and placement have much more impact. Living in a brick house, they’re pretty shit. I’ve switched to non gamified wifi AP’s connected to ethernet and the wifi’s been great. Still prioritize wired wherever possible though.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      4·
      8 days ago

      One of the worst things about those routers other than having generally poor coverage despite looking like a Crown of Thorns was that if you actually took advantage of the more advanced features like VLANs, port forwarding, static routes, FTP and all that stuff and set it up… It inevitably seemed that there was a 99% chance that a firmware update would not allow you to restore a backup of the router config on the updated device!

      That happened a couple times, spent days getting everything set up only to find out the firmware update refused to load a config made with an older version. F that. Never used those routers again.

    • IphtashuFitz@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      Used to live in a 2 story house built in the 1900’s. It had plaster & lath walls. I ended up with 4 AP’s scattered about before we had decent WiFi coverage.

  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    1·
    8 days ago

    WiFi 6e and 7 are legitimate competitors to standard 1gig Ethernet. Setting up my new WAP I got 1.4gbps down on my phone. And I think my laptop touched 2 at one point.

    But Ethernet will always be more consistent.

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
      1·
      8 days ago

      WiFi 6e and 7 are legitimate competitors to standard 1gig Ethernet.

      In isolation, perhaps. Now cram 25 neighbors in high density housing in range with one another all using the same spectrum and see if that performance still is sustainable.

      • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        8 days ago

        The newest specs have various flavors of MIMO and beam/null forming which helps cut down on co-channel interference. Having 8 antennas isn’t just a gimmick these days, which is pretty cool.

      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        0·
        8 days ago

        6ghz wifi doesn’t go very far, you’ll almost never see 25 6ghz connections.

        At work I still get about 700 down with 25+ devices connected. There’s legitimately about 50 wifi connections despite being 30 floors up, but they’re all 2.4ghz which is worthless. Even 5ghz kinda sucks. But 6ghz? Rock solid.

        • JordanZ@lemmy.world
          1·
          8 days ago

          I don’t think you see many 6ghz because people just don’t broadcast it because they don’t have the hardware for it. I know several people that haven’t moved past 2.4ghz. I think I’m the only one in my immediate area that does 6ghz. The range is short but not that short. I should pick up my immediate neighbors.

          My AP’s have a scan mode. Picking up peoples cars and stuff. It’s insane how many 2.4 ghz there are. I’m in a residential neighborhood of single family homes not an apartment or townhome area.

          2.4ghz band

          5ghz band

          6ghz band

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          0·
          8 days ago

          The increase in frequency reduces signal penetration. Things like walls become major sources of signal attenuation. In open office plans, with no obstructive walls, no problem. In a house or apartment where you’re separated by multiple walls (and the materials/thickness those walls are made of) that can add up to significant signal loss.

          I haven’t personally tried any 6GHz wifi technologies. Have you used it in any places where you’re separated by obstructions from the access point?