Christina Elson, the executive director of the Center for the Study of Capitalism at Wake Forest University, told Business Insider that many young people had embraced an idea she calls “safety capitalism.”
Ah yes, the executive director for the center for the study of capitalism says young folks want capitalism.
Come the fuck on.
No they don’t. They want socialism. Or democratic socialism.
The fuck is safety capitalism? Is it just some bullshit word for people who don’t want to say socialism? Fuck, if that’s what it takes for people to accept socialism then they can call it whatever the fuck they want.
Social democracy isn’t sexy enough of a word I suppose. It would be capitalism but with a safety net
Or just basic equality … more specifically WEALTH EQUALITY
to remove the power of the wealthy to get even more wealthy by exploiting everyone faster
And to give more power to those with little or no money and give them a chance to gain a bit of wealth.
Honestly if we just created a civilization where we spread the money around a little more equally, we’d have less psychopaths controlling the world and more people wanting to cooperate in making things better.
It wouldn’t create a utopia because we’re too complicated to be happy with one another but it would make our situation more tolerable and manageable.
So, socialism.
Or anarchism or communism.
Anarchism has too many forms and communism doesn’t work on a large scale (greed and corruption are too easy).
I’m not saying capitalism is working!!
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Bro. Show me a successful communist nation in which its citizen are happy and with all its basic necessities covered.
Bro. Show me a successful communist nation in which its citizen are happy and with all its basic necessities covered.
Name me a country where this happens.
Good point. In that case, show me a successful communist nation.
So, just so we’re clear, Communism doesn’t work, because it hasn’t been successful.
But Capitalism does work, even though it hasn’t been successful.
We do have Socialist nations and they are doing better than everyone else, with the highest happiness rates, and most of the necessities covered. But to answer your question, we have no successful countries at all. The closest we have are Socialist nations.
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I don’t know, man… most developed nations are having quite a nice ride compared to the so-called communist countries.
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Show me happy people.
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Communism, as in community driven government, has never existed.
Lol yes it has, we just know the end results. Stop acting like communism hasn’t been tried.
I see you don’t know what communism is. Sad.
I see you tankies don’t know what it is at all. My family has lived through that shit, so you can kindly go fuck yourself. Bad capitalism is 1000xs better than anything communism can spit out.
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Socialism exists only as a stepping stone to the end goal of anarchism/communism.
If you don’t believe those work, there is no point in advocating for socialism.
I disagree with you entirely.
Okay.
But you do realise the Soviet Union was socialist right? We kinda need to move away from the state based control model.
To what?
An anarchist/communist based society.
We see time and time again what happens when you give all the power to a small subset of society.
The lack of safety net is a feature of late-stage capitalism, not a flaw.
It was also a feature of early stage capitalism. But instead of analysing features, it’s better to orginize and fight for political change
Exactly, but my point is their view isn’t big enough, it’s the entire system that facilitates this to be the case. We need political change on a foundational level, like getting rid of 2 senators per state and the electoral college.
I agree with you in principle, but honestly, if we can get countries like the U.S. in the same position as Scandinavia in terms of a social safety net, that would be such a vast improvement over the status quo and it would be far easier to achieve.
Yep, I don’t understand this. Do people really think the euro countries aren’t built upon capitalism?
Lol “safety capitalism” the editors wouldn’t even let them say socialist. Just the state of the world in 2024 -fight harder, people. I personally can’t handle what this shit does to my blood pressure anymore
I think it’s a smart move actually. The right is really good at turning a good word/description into “pure evil.” They killed socialism so keep the dynamics and change the name.
It’s like the morons that were asked if they liked Obamacare and if they liked the affordable care act. It’s the same thing but people said they hate Obamacare but liked the affordable care act… Right wing brainwashing at its finest…
I feel like that’s the reason I tend to preach anarchism over communism in general and don’t doubt you’re right about the statistics and propaganda playing into perception but I can’t help but feel like here that comes off as rehabilating the image of capitalism. We can make a softer bed of knives or make one out of foam- I know which one I’m choosing
I dunno. I like the one where the workers vote for who the boss at the factory is and then they all take home a share of the profits.
Workers rights were earned in blood. Not a lot of people know that.
By design
The latest iteration of the same “younger people more left wing” article newspapers have been writing for 60 years.
Except that that is slowly no longer being the case.
Millennials where promised we get more conservative over time and for many the opposite appears true. Even gen x is in many ways already more left wing then the boomers.
To me it appears as the boomer generation was fed so much propaganda after the war it became ingrained in society, it took a few generations to finally get it out our system but it is starting to happen. The kids will be alright.
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I’ve thought a lot about it these past several years and I agree with you. Boomers were so propandized before there were any protections that they had no choice but to be narcissistic and materialistic.
that is slowly no longer being the case
Proceeds to agree with the comment that young people are more left
Did you accidentally a word there? Cuz you agree with the guy you’re responding to.
The comment above indicated that this is the same old story as it always been. It had a reminiscent of the myth that you become more conservative with age. The way i see it, this is not the case, times are changing and in many ways they are already different.
So yes i agree that in effect young people are more left but it has nothing to do with biological age. The next generation after z may have a serious chance of being free from the cycle, being about as left as their parents.
I think a more fair statement then “the young are more Left” would be “postwar propaganda made people anti-left witch became part of intergenerational trauma.” This is evidenced by how the word socialism can already trigger people into becoming upset, that is not normal.
safety capitalism has to be the most absurd stand in for socialism or welfare I’ve ever heard lmao
Really reaching new levels of copium
those other words have been coopted by the right so i get it
I wouldnt say stand in for socialism unless they’re talking about socilism. It sounds like they’re talking about capitalism with social benefits.
I’m fully on board with calling it “safety capitalism” or even “jesus reckoning savior economics” if i get what I want. at this point most of America just tunes out “socialism”
This already has a name: a welfare state or socialism. No need to pull made up terms out of your ass.
Who comes up with these words? Boomers inventing their own propaganda
current social safety net is broken
To shreds, you say?
This is the stupidest article I’ve ever read.
My brain says this is related to Safety Dance, and I don’t dance.
I’m here to let you know that you can dance if you want to.
But my friends don’t dance…
If they don’t dance then… Fuck em.
Sadly, they don’t do that, either.
Net? There was a net?
That’s not a safety net they are looking for, that’s pay me while I fuck off and spend on credit for 20 years.
