• a lil bee 🐝@lemmy.world
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    Disappointed in the comments here so far. There’s a cardinal rule of improv that also works well for many other things in life, politics included: “yes, and”.

    This is a great change that will save folks money and make the country just a little bit fairer. Celebrate that, and then use the momentum to push for more. This builds alliances and a shared vision, instead of devolving into petty squabbles around direction.

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      You can please some of the people some of the time, but none of the people all of the time.

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            How so?

            “I can please none of the people all of the time,” equates to, “I can always please no one,” or… “I can never please anyone.”

            This is not the same as, “I can please all of the people none of the time,” which is, “I can never please everyone.”

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            “all of the people none of the time” means you will never please 100% of everyone. As in, maybe some people, but not everyone.
            “none of the people all of the time” means you will always please 0% of people.

            They’re very different statements.

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      Full disclosure: Trump bad! Biden GOOD!

      You’re disappointed but personally, it’s hard NOT to feel a great deal of schadenfreude when:

      the guy who, for his entire career, has openly accepted bribes in exchange for legislation that is economically violent toward his own constituents now presumably wants the exact same constituents he sold out to vote for him

      and is using small, meaningless crumbs to gain that vote when he could have just NOT ENABLED A GENOCIDE.

      If this situation doesn’t make you a true believer about there being no hope, I honestly don’t know what will. I lost hope in 2016 and have just been laughing through the bullshit since then. It’s exactly as real as pro wrestling at this point.

      no yes

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    Holy shit how are Boe Jiden’s consumer protection agencies so based all day long? Not only do we have this EXCELLENT SHIT from the CFPB, we also get the constant anti-trust lawsuits from QUEEN Lina Khan, who is making the FTC relevant again!

    Antitrust has been dead for generations, and for the first time in my+grandparents lifetime we see the government trying to reign in the travesty that is American corporatism. Fuck damn I love to see it!

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      Also capped insulin prices and old people drugs. The man is speedrunning pothole legislation, oh yeah and he literally fucking made a national pothole fixing Bill.

      Biden is definitely going down like Carter where 2 decades later everyone benefits from his presidency and are like “fuck he was actually pretty good”.

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      Lemmy leftie morons: JoE BiDeN hAtEs Us!

      It’s like they ignore all of this news and act like all he’s ever done is beat the shit out of rail workers…

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        Yeah I can’t believe he personally crucified union members with railroad spikes, I thought that was overboard, if a little impressive at his age.

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    I love all the little things his administration keeps doing, and they’re good. I just wish he had some big initiative he could hang his hat on. Little things like this - while good - don’t really get people excited and aren’t the sea change(s) we need.

    I know, a big part of that is congress.

    But damn surely there’s a lot more ballsy stuff that could have been done by now. Weed not being federally legalized yet is stupid, for one thing.

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      There are a lot of big things that would be celebrated if our media covered it differently and if Biden was as self-aggrandizing as Trump.
      But the little things are really what make me want to vote for Biden again. This is competent governing. In my field, I’ve seen how the little things lead to big things. Like the approval of off shore wind farms that were stalled under Trump are now approved and constructed leading to the first utility scale offshore wind farm in the US. A huge accomplishment from one little approval.

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        Like the approval of off shore wind farms that were stalled under Trump are now approved and constructed leading to the first utility scale offshore wind farm in the US.

        And now I understand why my dad randomly decided to talk about “windmills killing whales.” As if he ever gave a shit about them before right wing media told him to be mad about it…

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      The Inflation Reduction Act is one of the most significant pieces of legislation in a long time

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        You’re right that it was a big deal.

        What makes you say “of all time” though? That seems like an exaggeration but I’m interested in why I may be wrong.

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      This is great and all, but yeah. This is “yay, the world is very slightly less crappy.”

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    We need interest caps and a social safety net so people don’t have to turn to 29% predatory lending.

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        Yeah, because lenders are going to turn down 10% if they can’t get 29%…

        10% guaranteed is more than enough to motivate lenders.

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          If you are credit worthy and lenders can give you 10% they will, because there is another lender out there that will give you 10% if you are good for it. If you are getting a 29% interest rate it’s because you are a default risk, it’s unsecured, a short term loan, or any combination of the 3.

          Rates just don’t come out of thin air. It’s based off of risk. If you cap rates at 10% then the only people who will get credit at 10% are going to be wealthy people.

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            If you are getting a 29% interest rate it’s because

            That’s credit card interest…

            And we’re talking about credit cards…

            At least I am, and everyone else. Because this is the comment section of an article about credit cards.

            If you’re talking about something else, maybe you should let people know? Or at least be understanding when others can’t read your mind.

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              I’m talking about all types of credit, including a line of credit like a credit card. It’s unsecured so the rate is way higher. If you capped the rate on credit cards then people who are higher credit risk won’t be given credit.

              People who are credit worthy get spammed with all sorts of credit card offers for low APR cards. With an high 700-800 credit score you could score a line of credit at 10% APR but you’d have to go to a bank or credit union to get it.

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            Guaranteed as in rate of return for the lender…

            Like, yeah, there’s some breakage, but your return on investment is going to be close to interest rate.

            Buy a stock and you might beat 10%, you might not.

            Buy debt, and you get your interest or sell it to a third party for a smaller amount, likely still more than the amount loaned, just piled high with interest.

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              It’s not guaranteed because a lot of people default of their loans.

              And collateral can lose value after the loan is issued.

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      Sure, if it’s annual 1000% that’s bullshit and predatory. But let’s not go overboard and cap it at at 5% because interest rates fluctuate and some people won’t get credit unless the rate is a bit higher

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      The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said it would be filing a lawsuit against the CFPB "to prevent this misguided and harmful rule from going into effect.”

      Don’t hold your breath. The current state of the judiciary is nakedly hostile to administrative law generally and bank regulations specifically.

      Keep an eye on Consumer Financial Protection Bureau v. Community Financial Services Association of America, Limited. Might not even have the CFPB for much longer.

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      You likely will see most small banks end their overdraft programs as they will have too many losses without a way to make it back up on the fee income. Then the community banks will lose customers to the Bank of America type mega banks leading to less competition and worse banking conditions.

      And people who spend money they don’t have will still be charged fees. Instead people will get charged fees on the other end for writing bad checks or missing payments due to auto payments being rejected for non sufficient funds.

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    Watch the credit card companies switch to charging late fees per day instead of per month that you’re late.

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    … will close a loophole to slash late fees charged by credit card companies from an average of $32 to $8, which the agency projects will save $220 annually for 45 million Americans.

    Someone double check my math here. But I’m reading this statement to say that 45 million Americans are - on average - late on 10 credit card payments each year. That’s probably not a good sign of a healthy economic outlook.

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      49% of Americans can’t afford a 1000$ emergency. I can see why you would use your credit card, try to pay it with your next paycheck, paycheck is late (because of course it is) then miss credit card payment.

      Those are very thin margins that a lot of Americans deal with.

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        Yeah, but something like that is happening 9 or 10 times a year for 45 million Americans. That’s crazy!

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      $220 / ($32 - $8) looks like a little over 9 to me also. Wow. That’s a lot of people struggling, probably trying to stay afloat paying off cards with other cards and missing more payments.

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        Yeah I freak out if I accidentally pay a card late. I can’t imagine the stress of missing that many payments a year. At some point, you’re just in a hole and digging to get yourself out.

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    Even though banks will still be able to charge limited overdraft fees, it won’t be able to exceed the banks’ losses under the rule. The CFPB has not finalized an amount but is exploring overdraft fees capped at $3, $6, $7, or $14, plus $.50 per transaction. The overdraft rule is currently under review.

    They need to move their asses on this one. I think many banks charge $25-35 for an overdraft, an absurd amount of money that is obviously being charged to someone who doesn’t have money.

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    While they’re at it, why not cap processing fees as junk fees? It for sure doesn’t cost 2.9% of your grocery bill to facilitate the payment- it’s all automated and there’s little to no labor involved in the actual processing, it’s just collecting economic rent

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    Let’s cap fees doctors can charge for missing an appointment. Since doctors seem to want to schedule months out sometimes shit comes up and we don’t know our schedule months away.

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      I mean, if you have other shit going on that day, it’s kinda on you to cancel or reschedule your appointment before whatever cutoff they have instead of just not going.

      You made the commitment to be at your appointment at the scheduled time, and if you no show that’s time that could have been spent seeing another patient and money they can’t make because of your actions.

      I’ve never had an issue if something came up the day of and I needed to reschedule, as long as I called the moment I knew I might not make it.

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        This is true, but if I made an appointment for 9, how come I don’t see anyone but the nurse for two hours?

        Seems like the doctor doesn’t have a commitment to take care of my problem at the scheduled time.

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          how come I don’t see anyone but the nurse for two hours?

          • Because the doctor showed up late.
          • They overbooked / double booked (maybe with a last minute urgent caller or maybe just because they know they will have so many no shows.)
          • Maybe the medical assistants called out and the processing time for people is backed up.
          • Maybe they decided to flirt with a patient or two or took an extra long bathroom break.
          • Maybe they had a family emergency and had to step out or take a call.
          • Maybe a patient called in with a critical need and they had to prioritize that because it’s a life and death situation or something.
          • Maybe they farted and it wasn’t just a fart.
          • Maybe they don’t like you.
          • Maybe their car was towed because their medical bills are piling up with insane interest and they weren’t able to work as much as they needed to make the bills the last few months and they needed to take a bicycle
          • Maybe they got an OUI and lost their license
          • Aliens

          Pick one, or many.

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            Or most likely of all for a wait of that magnitude: their employer forces them to cram more patients than they should into a short time, and it turns out not every medical issue falls into nice little predictable fifteen minute block, and someone or multiple people earlier than you had major issues to be sorted.

            Also common: patients earlier than you showing up late but their employer forces them to see patients even if they got there with only a minute of their appointment left and now it throws off everyone’s appointments for the entire rest of the day

            Also who’s actually charging late fees? Most places the policy is to fire you from the clinic for ~3 no shows

            People here acting like a doctor is just sitting in the back twiddling their thumbs laughing while you wait. They just want to see everyone and get home, they don’t want to be seeing people late either, but stuff happens.

            • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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              $50. Mine certainly does and I have only truly screwed up once. I got hyper focused and lost track of time. I don’t get too upset over it though. Policy is policy…

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            The most common 3 in my experience working in a doctor’s office are:

            • other patients came late and still were seen.
            • patients lied about the primary reason for their visit or brought up anxiety/depression issues that you can’t just reschedule.
            • doctor and a patient got too chatty about something not related to medicine.

            For a lot of older people, that appointment may have been the highlight of their week, so I understood some of their desire to talk to everyone for as long as possible.

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              On the inside the fault will always lie with the customers. I have worked on so many sides of business relationships to know how that bias works so very well.

              The reality is that there are countless reasons :)

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            So? Do I get to deduct from their bill for failing to meet their commitment?

            We all have shit that comes up. Doctors too.

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              No, because your schedule change is likely known well in advance, while their delays are happening in real time.

              It’s typically not possible to know 2 hours in advance if they’re going to be running 2 hours behind, so they can’t communicate that to you like you can communicate your need to reschedule.

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                Their schedule delays are caused by things happening to other people in real time, so no. That doesn’t fly.

                Particularly when the root cause is in fact their employer staffing to maximize profits.

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      The system is overwhelmed and you are scheduled months out because there are so many people waiting ahead of you. If you cancel appropriately that spot can be given to someone else that is waiting. As a patient I want higher punitive fees on people that don’t cancel appropriately - not to stick it to them but to encourage them to actually call ahead and cancel so more spots can open up. This is not the same as junk fees.

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      I’d rather have $20 per hour that a doctor keeps me waiting.

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      BAPCPA made it harder for consumers to file for Chapter 7 by imposing a “means test” for Chapter 7 eligibility, and by substantially increasing the cost of filing for bankruptcy.

      BAPCPA’s passage was one of Biden’s long-sought goals as a senator. Not only did Biden vote for the legislation four times between 1998 and 2005, but he was so singularly committed to its success that he inserted it into a foreign-relations bill in 2000, and later was the sole Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee to vote for the bill.

      Biden also consistently voted against efforts to soften BAPCPA’s blow on vulnerable populations

      Lmao

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        Full disclosure: TRUMP bad! Biden GOOD!.

        It’s why I never voted for that piece of shit. The very architect of my indentured servitude (presumably but not demonstrably) wanted and wants my vote. Wouldn’t even piss on him if he was on fire. On fire much like Aaron Bushnell who set himself on fire trying to break through this country’s propaganda wall to bring attention to a literal genocide enabled by the executive orders from this same piece of shit Zionist.

        How far gone is electoralism in the US when the incumbent can run virtually unopposed while enthusiastically enabling a historically brutal genocide?

        Fun days ahead!

        voat!

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        Full disclosure: Trump bad! Biden good!

        I think people are downvoting you because you didn’t start with that disclosure.

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    Okay. Why can’t they just get rid of the fees altogether? Why do we need to have ANY kind of junk fees for anything? Oh wait, I know. To make rich people richer.

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      They actually should, because they already change interest far in excess of LIBOR.

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    Just extend that to medical care, and we Gucci… How about outlawing punitive deductibles for health insurance?

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    Like they’re going to just take the lack of those fee profits off the bottom line. Look forward to the new and/or increased yearly fees now.

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        It wasn’t a suggestion at all.

        I was just saying that we, the consumer are going to end up paying for it somehow or another.

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          then why have any consumer protections? and why have a minimum wage?

          They are just going to make up for it with higher prices right? Let’s make min wage $1 so we can all enjoy low prices. right?

          You are playing into their hands

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      Even if that was the end result, still better than now as it would be a planned expense rather than an additional weight on people in financial trouble

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      Have to start somewhere. This might move the fees upfront and keep people from getting trapped when the person doesn’t read all the fine print.

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      Assuming the total remains similar, its good to move the burden away from people who are struggling.