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Ohhh, Fisker the Car company not Fiskar the scissor company.
It’s Fiskars
I bet they’d make a sharp looking car
Really cutting edge.
Stop with the puns… We get the point
I get that we’re chopping it up here, but can we cut back on the puns?
Scissor me timbers!
I love the real slice of life feeling you get reading through this stuff.
TIL it’s spelled Fiskar
I was pretty worried about that TBH. I don’t buy them frequently but that’s because they’re usually good tools that last.
They also make wonderful axes and mauls I use to abuse trees and let all my anger out. A by product of this behavior is I also get to heat my home in the cold months.
Their lawn weed puller is legit also.
Phew! Close one.
Likely well deserved — but still unfortunate. The EV space only benefits from more options and more competition.
Competition is great, a company that can’t produce a quality product and ships a CAR with beta level software that can’t update OTA is NOT competition.
The auto industry is highly unfavorable to startups, the competition you want will come from the old ICE OEMs.
My wife was thinking between the Rivian s3 and the Fisker as our next vehicle.
This makes me sad to hear.
but the choice is easier now
Yeah, just get a Cupra Leon FR PHEV
Rivian has been doing layoffs at their BloNo plant recently. I’m not sure if it’s just like everyone else in the tech sector or if demand is down.
Fisker said it hired a Chief Restructuring Officer in the hopes of staving off bankruptcy.
Ah yes. No better way to reduce costs than hiring another C*O.
Only reason i clicked this post
and then abruptly cut its price so it could quickly get rid of existing inventory.
Why would anybody buy a new car that has no future of warranty or parts availability?
You can buy like 2-3 for the price of one. If you didn’t need to worry about software issues it would be a good purchase.
If you’re looking for a good chassis and powertrain with no need for anything g else it might make sense.
They’ll get bought out by somebody. How that looks as far as warranties and such…who knows.
Someone will wait for them to go bankrupt first. Poach any staff they need, and leave the rest to unemployment.
Well, they’ll certainly get bought for pennies for sure. My guess is that someone will offer BEFORE the bankruptcy, because nobody wants the extra admin overhead and cost of dealing with a subsidiary in bankruptcy. That’s why the company is putting out PR in the first place. Kind of like a “Make an offer now before it gets worse” kind of thing to any interested parties.
If you let them go bankrupt first then you can buy cheaper, and don’t need to let go of a bunch of surplus employees. I think it’ll be about the bottom line. I guess it all depends on the price and any likely competition for the purchase.
You can buy for the same price regardless. The difference is having a newly acquired company in the courts.
If they’ve gone bankrupt and sold their office space and laid off their staff then it’s definitely not going to cost the same.
some rich hobbyist engineer/mechanic might buy one for parts. So they can use the parts to convert a ICE car into an EV
I read that as Fiskars first, and thought noo not the scissor company! But all is good, just another EV startup gone flop.
THANKS MKBHD
Thanks MKBHD for not sucking corporate dick and actually showing issues with products and helping people make informed decisions on their purchases, right?
of course, i posted this as a joke (like “thanks Obama”), i really doubt his review had anything to do with the company going bankrupt, but seeing the downvotes i’ll really think twice before commenting
dont let the disagree votes stop you. their weight is meaningless
and if you get downvoted for a good joke, let it roll
but seeing the downvotes i’ll really think twice before commenting
there is no point to farming karma on lemmy
What did he do?
Reviewed their car. People saw what they are buying before the purchase.
Surprise surprise. The CEO of a company I used to work for migrated to Fisker a good 10 years ago. By migrated I mean he injected a shit CEO who then ran down the company into bankruptcy and sold the pieces. This seems appropriate somehow. I mean the guy was alright, it’s just that the other junk CEO fucked up the company. Sort of like Google do no evil meets “hey you’re running out of the 15gb so I’m deleting your shit next month” CEO.
Friend, I’ve read this three times and still have no idea wtf you’re trying to say.
Good company before fiskar screwed over by bad CEO. CEO then goes to fiskar at different role but fiskar also bankrupts. Do you not see a pattern? LOL… I see patterns.
Friend, I’ve read this three times and still have no idea wtf you’re trying to say.
This is like reading my uneducated Republican mother’s ramblings on Facebook. Completely incoherent and gave me a brain aneurysm.
I know right? But for everything else there’s the block option.
Sounds like the same page as injected C-levels pushing Precision-Scheduled-Railroading at railroads with a massive boost to share value via slashed labor pools. 2 years later when labor can’t support operations and the company gets rekt, the new C-levels eject with a shiny parachute and dumped stocks.
We can’t have nice things.
Why isn’t adapting ICEs into EVs a thing? Why more lithium-based ewaste with build-int obsolescence?
lithium-based ewaste
That’s propaganda. Lithium ion batteries can be well recycled. First second life as static energy storage, then broken down into materials and which are then reused. Around 98% of the materials can be recycled.
with build-int obsolescence
Batteries can be replaced. Nio makes it super easy, other manufacturers require one day at a repair garage. Overall way fewer parts suffer from degradion from use in EVs than ICE cars.
Disposable vapes put more lithium into landfills than EVs. Everyone throws their vape in the trash, nobody throws their EV battery module in the trash
Overall way fewer parts suffer from degradion from use in EVs than ICE cars.
That’s only because an EV has less moving parts. And yes, there is built-in obsolescence in any modern car, ICE or otherwise.
Adaptions are a thing. However paying someone to do it costs a lot of money (even doing it yourself is not cheap) and it’s not much more - possibly even less - of a stretch to one’s budget to get a whole new car built from the ground up as an EV, so commercial conversions tend to be a niche market focused on more interesting vehicles (e.g. what this Melbourne based conversion company converts).
GM had at one point been working on an eCrate block for conversions, but they seem to have abandoned it.
This looks like a real product.
I seem to remember it being insanely expensive though.
Economies of scale, i guess… Renault seems to have tried it, perhaps for internet points only though.
I can’t shake the feeling that the technology is there and attainable, but… money. Which means it only favors automakers.
How would converting an ICE to an EV reduce the need for lithium?
Adapting is very labor intensive, so very expensive. Somewhere between $20.000 and $65.000 depending on the car. They do that for old timers where somebody is willing to pay for it for the love of the car to keep it running when the engine is busted. But with that price tag, you can just as well buy a second hand or even a new EV.
So yay landfills? So caring for the environment is only important when it’s cheap?
Dude. You asked a question. People have been trying to answer it as best they can.
Don’t use that as an excuse to complain about something else without at least acknowledging their willingness to put the effort in.
Either that, or don’t ask questions, just make a rant comment
caring for the environment is only important when it’s cheap?
Lots of people even pay ridiculous amounts of money to look manly and strong in a big truck and pay even more to roll coal with it instead of spending money to make things more environmental friendly.
The power train is the most expensive and largest part of an EV. So stuffing it info a vehicle that isn’t meant for it is pretty tricky. It’s easier if you sacrifice the truck or back seat for batteries, but it’s still hard.
So it seems, but aren’t electric motors way smaller? Heck Ryan F9 fits inside a truck’s engine space (but i’m trying to make a point for any vehicle, yes).
The electric motors can be pretty tiny. The batteries are generally the packaging problem. They’re heavy and lumping them all where the engine would have been in a vehicle will have severe impacts on weight balance and handling. Distributing them is best, but requires space that vehicles need to be designed around. You can put some batteries in the engine compartment and some in the trunk to keep things neutral, but that still requires giving up storage space and requires running a high voltage line throughout the vehicle to connect the battery banks.
It is a (VERY niche) thing
