• Hyundai is slowly backing away from the all-screen approach to interior design.
  • Hyundai Design North America Vice President Ha Hak-soo said that people “get stressed, annoyed and steamed when they want to control something in a pinch but are unable to do so.”
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    Hyundai is listening to what consumers want much more readily than other manufacturers, and their body designs strike an incredible balance between modern familiarity and retrofuturism. It’s almost exactly what I want from a new vehicle, other than the fact that they use all the same forced telemetry that other brands are using.

    They’re also offering a great spread of electric AND hybrid vehicles to satisfy consumers worried about charger availability as well as consumers worried about the impact of gasoline-powered vehicles.

    I won’t be surprised if they continue to increase their market share for a long time to come. If only privacy concerns were as common among the broader population as they seem to be here in the Fediverse, then maybe they might address those issues as well and be a no-brainer purchase.

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      Design is science, they fail and go back. Doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different outcome is the definition of insanity… Oh wait.

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    Good. This should be forced via regulations. Touchscreen controls are provably more dangerous than buttons due to the distraction.

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      Haptic feedback like knob clicks or button presses are much easier to use without taking eyes off the road as often.

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        Shhh, don’t call it “haptic feedback” or they might make them flat, unmoving buttons that have a vibration motor behind them.

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        Don’t you still have to look at it to find it first? Edit: sorry i thought you were talking about touch screens

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          No. All the knobs are in roughly the same area, so you can find and manipulate them by touch without looking.

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            I regularly manipulate my 2008 Toyota matrix’s radio and HVAC controls while never taking my eyes off the road. I won’t buy any car that forgoes the physical controls.

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          Even if you have to look at it first, once on it you can go by feel where as i find i struggle to do the same on a fully touch control.

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      I’m sure Trump and his new auto industry advisor, Elon Musk, will get right on that. 😔

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    Absolutely my creed. In my industrial niche, touch screen never took hold - when your action is actually (or at least perceived) important, nobody wants to rely on touch screens.

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    Honestly. I’d be fine with a touchscreen for things you wouldn’t likely be adjusting on the go anyways - but basic stuff like the radio and AC/Fans should always be easy to distinguish, don’t need to look away from the road to operate buttons. Making basic stuff require touchscreen is inconvenient at best and outright dangerous at worst.

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      Give me a manageable handful of physical buttons with defaults but that I can customize. The pendulum swung too far. There is a Place for touch screens and buttons in cars. They can live in Harmony. Personally, I never want to see a climate control physical button except maybe for my passengers microclimates. I set a setpoint and set the fan to auto like I do in my house. Let the car adjust to the preferred setpoint. Heated seats / heated steering wheel? Programmed parameters. Stereo controls? Hell yeah, let’s get tactile - don’t make me look at anything for that. I don’t mind the idea of voice controls too, but I’ve never met one in a car that wasn’t frustrating AF. Prefer to leave that out until the tech improves.

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      I recently got a Kia Niro and it has buttons on the wheel for most of the basic functions of the touch screen. Really handy

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        Yes same here. Still reach for the volume control occasionally though. Moving up and down the cruise control and what have you is a bit fiddly as well, so I usually don’t bother.

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    The bathrooms in hell all have automatic sinks where you can’t tell where the sensor is and an inconsistent delay.

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      I was in an airport bathroom and somehow the auto soap dispenser managed to squirt soap into my open cup of coffee. Fuck those things.

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          It was one of those one person family bathrooms. I had a 3 hour wait and a bottle of rum.

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          Exactly, where was the coffee whilst the poster was using the toilet?

          There’s a nasty little goblin of a bloke where I work. Toilets for all offices on the floor. He takes phone AND coffee. Splashes everywhere, doesn’t flush.

          I’d like to flush him instead.

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        this is disgusting I’d rather have soap in my coffee then take an open cup into the bathroom. I’d say that the dispenser is justified in its actions

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    I just got a new Hyundai and I think they already have the perfect amount of touch vs buttons. Everything you need to access has buttons, the things which would be too annoying to do during the drive are touch

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    Hyundai Design North America Vice President Ha Hak-soo said that people “get stressed, annoyed and steamed when they want to control something in a pinch but are unable to do so.”

    How many years it took them to figure it out?

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      Probably 10 minutes, but by that point they had to double down for the shareholders and as long as everyone copied, they were good.

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    I have a pre-touchscreen era (for its model anyway) 2012 car. I’m hoping by the time I have to get a new car this touchscreen fad will have come and gone. How are you supposed to use those things in the winter when you have gloves on?

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      Most newer touch panels work pretty well with gloves but they do make gloves that are compatible with touch panels.

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      There’s a happy medium. I have a slightly newer VW GTI (2017) with a touchscreen but there are still buttons and dials for basically everything. It’s a perfect infotainment system if you ask me :)

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    Got a Tucson to test for a few weeks. I was delighted to give it back. It was infuriating to use, the glass slab caught every light and felt like it was at 103% of the perfect distance everywhere I needed to touch.

    The worst thing about modern cars though, outside of the sim card live locations and data scraping, is the safety message on start up that needs confirmation and the fucking safety pause on android auto. I hate it.

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      Had a loaner Ford edge with the giant PITA display. Want to adjust the temperature? You have to look way down at the bottom and then slide the adjuster !!!SLiDE your fucking finger in a small area!!! Sooooo fucking stupid! And it is three taps to turn pretty much anything on. Just give me dials and switches.

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    I once rented a Mini Countryman and was pleasantly surprised by the highly tactile switches they use. They felt like aircraft switches in that they had weight and springy resistance to them. Much better than all this touchscreen nonsense.