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    I can only hope that nothing ever happens to where I’d have to use Windows again. (been using only linux for over 10 years and the latest Windows I ever used was win 7 at work).

    If that happened, the shock of all the last 10-15 years’ accumulation of enshittification hitting me at once might give me a stroke. The boiling frogs of today have gotten used to their OS serving them ads and spying on them by now, but I wouldn’t be able to deal with it.

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      I dual boot at work, which in practice means I have a Linux laptop with a Windows partition for occasional use.

      It’s windows 10, not 11, and the machine has decent specs: 6c/12t, 32 GB ram, and an SSD. Windows feels legitimately clunky and slow to me when I use it, and I am not using some lightweight Linux distro meant to be blazing fast. I run Mint Cinnamon which is as mainstream and all-in-one as it gets. But it still feels like it was created to serve the user rather than third party business interests.

      I have some desktop machines at home that run windows 10 as well, which I use pretty infrequently. One of my winter projects is going to be fixing that. The OS part anyway.

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        Exactly the same setup and experience here. Work forces me to use an inferior application in windows instead of a more powerful option in Linux and it boils my blood.

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          Any chance you could use that Windows app in a VM, or is Windows itself a mandate too?

          Before we got the green light to dual boot, I spent 90% of my time using Linux in a VM while windows basically handled my M365 applications. These days I much prefer having Teams and Outlook being tabs in Firefox!

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            I don’t think so, this is rather complex video editing software and I never heard about anyone running it in a VM. Maybe I’ll give it a try someday.

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              Knowing nothing about it, I’d guess it might work but at a slight performance penalty. But depending on how it uses system resources (GPU use, etc) maybe not.

              You could run a VM of windows on your windows system just to mess with it. I always used VirtualBox but idk if there are better cross-platform options.

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    I bet they’re gonna have to do what car dealerships do… Yeah bring your old iPad for trade in!.. Okay I don’t see my trade in discount though…it’s right there! Look in the small font, it’s $5.56 we compared against Kelly’s cousin’s purple book of laptops.

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    Yes. Go buy a new computer.

    Then give me your old computer so I can put linux on it and distribute it for free to students and immigrants.

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      I like how almost everything we do now is in response to things going to shit.

      Lemmy - Reddit went to shit

      Linux (Desktop, anyway) - Windows went to shit

      Piracy - Distribution and pricing went to shit

      Jellyfin - Plex went to shit

      Emulation - Nintendo, mostly…

      Matrix - Just in case Signal tries anything… switchblade

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        Monopoly was originally the Landlord’s Game and was designed to teach children the dangers of unchecked monopolies and growth in the concentration of wealth.

        Software and by extension, software companies are subject to those same Iron Laws of Oligarchy.

        Given enough time, everything turns to shit, and it’s up to younger, healthy, energized people to fight back the power creep.

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    “We and our 855 partners blah blah blah.”

    Odd that theverge decided to post this article. Not too stoked about 850 companies asking for my data in order to see an article about predatory business practices.

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      Even more irritating is when they give you the option to opt out, but you have to select every company individually. So you either give up on the article or let them steal your life.

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    Ah yes, there isn’t even an option to permanently disable this popup, only remind me later. When the operating system is the nag ware. `

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    Those aren’t prompts. Those are ads. Call a spade a spade. “Microsoft tries to convince Windows 10 users to buy a new PC with full-screen ads

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      I’m just a “normal person” lol but I have a 8 year old MacBook Air running I can’t remember what version. I’ve never been forced to upgrade. Does everything I need it to. I told Microsoft to fuck themselves in 1998. Now at work, I’ve been stuck with PC’s but that’s on the company’s dime, never mine.

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        If your Air hadn’t reached it yet, eventually it’ll reach EOS and you’ll stop receiving software/OS updates from Apple. While this won’t force you to upgrade hardware, it does add significant risk to your online time, since vulnerabilities will go unpatched. But, again, an important difference, which you shrewdly point out, you’re not forced or coerced to upgrade.

        Edit: autocorrect

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          Fortunately, Firefox still supports old Macs. I have a running 2011 MacBook and 2008 iMac that are both still used for 3D printing and the other for an old local version of accounting software and email respectively.

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            While true, the vulnerabilities I’m referring to are those in the OS itself. But if they’re not connected, you should be ok. All I’m saying with this, is be super careful. Some of those vulnerabilities are zero click.

            Edit: autocorrect that killed my grammar.

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    Got that the other day on my gaming computer. Very irritating.

    Especially since I bought the computer in 2021 specifically to run the virtual cycling program Zwift. I’m not replacing it just to placate Microsoft. It’s more than powerful enough to run Zwift and will be for years. I’m hoping the options for using Zwift on Linux pan out.

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        Zwiftinsider isn’t run by Zwift - he just reports on them (though he definitely has inside information, and they work with him on various things, like letting him use “bots” to test various functionalities).

        That is pretty old. I think there are several approaches now. The one he lists, one using docker (I actually had it running on my desktop Linux machine, but I didn’t actually test it), and I think some people got it working under WINE.

        Zwift’s saving grace is that you can connect most hardware via your phone - trainer, cadence, heart rate monitor, etc. - because it’s designed to also run on things like Apple TVs, iPads, and Android phones and tablets, albeit with probably lower graphics settings. So, you don’t need to worry about the hardware end of it (ANT+ dongle), which very much simplifies the issue. Which reminds me, my heart rate monitor is ANT+ only, and I’d need a bluetooth-capable one to do this.

        (Also, at worst, I could run it on my tablet and hook that up to a monitor, so even if I can’t get it running on Linux, I still have options.)

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    Having moved fully to Linux some months ago, I look at this kind of thing both with with a feeling of smug satisfaction and with cold chills of somebody who only now starts to fully realise just how massive, heavy and fast the incoming train they just dodged is.

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    I use Linux at home but my work computer uses windows. Work just bought me a new laptop with windows 11 pre-installed and I got ads to upgrade to a new “AI capable computer” on the login screen. This computer is maybe 3 months old and there are already ads telling me I need to get a new one.

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        We’re a small nonprofit, so we usually just go with whatever is cheap and works most of the time. We don’t have many issues with it, so I don’t think its on the list of things to fix.

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            Seconded. Data breaches at big companies may be what makes the news, but small businesses (and other organizations) are compromised far more often.

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    That kinda did the trick for me since my old PC was starting to struggle with some tasks, so I went and built a new PC recently.

    Joke’s on Microsoft though, I installed Arch Linux on it instead. It’s so much less work to maintain compared to Windows these days.

    A relative of mine had also got fed up with the Windows BS and was interested in what I was running, so I got her machine dual booted with Debian now to try it out. She hasn’t looked back either, so that to me proves that Linux is ready for non-techies.

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      My GF is not technical and had an old, old laptop that barely ran, so I gave her an Ubuntu USB drive and helped her boot from it, but she did the install all on her own. She even fixed a printer driver issue by doing some research and installing an updated driver.

      But that just goes to show that Linux isn’t exactly hard if you know how to read.

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    People can’t afford groceries and Microsoft is over here saying this. So out of touch with reality.

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      They are going to finally cause the “year of the Linux desktop” revolution we’ve all been waiting for.

      Unfortunately I think it will be sort of a monkey’s paw situation, where Linux gains a bunch of market share on the desktop because people will stop using their Windows desktops and just completely switch to using their phones and tablets if they haven’t already.

      Ah, who am I kidding, they’ll still get all those sweet business/enterprise sales.

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    Micro$oft doesn’t understand that these full-screen new Win11 PCs are actually Linux ads!

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        95% of my games work on Linux. Quite a few windows specific programs too. Praise proton and the wine team!

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      This whole Win 11 mess is what finally convinced me to switch. I still can’t get over that Settings hasn’t reached feature parity with Control Panel yet. Figured if I have to re-learn how to do settings for the 10th time, I might as well do it in an OS that isn’t shoving ads in my face.

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          I think for people who like Out-Of-The-Box, Fedora is ideal. It’s the only OS I didn’t have to troubleshoot the Bluetooth immediately.

          I put it on my grandmothers computer and she hasn’t had any major complaints in 2 years 🤞

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        I was simply trying to format a disk and so searched in the start bar expecting a suitable control panel item to pop up any would have happened in any sane era of windows. Instead fucking bing opened and it brought me back web results for “format disk” as well as unrelated ads. fucking web results!

        gargh

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      I have started switching my parents. Last year before all this really started getting crazy and I bought my mother a used HP elitebook laptop and set her up with Linux on it. Just to get her to test it out and use it. And replace her older laptops. There’s very little she does that actually depends on windows. Everything tends to be in the browser. There was only one odd application that’s odd even under windows. But it has an Android version that I got running with waydroid.

      In the last month and I got my father a new used office PC that was about 10 Generations newer than what he had processor-wise. And set it up with Linux out of the box. He’s been enjoying using it it’s so much faster snappier and less spammy. And here this month when I have time. Getting my mother’s desktop PC converted over to dual boot at least with Linux as primary. I’ve had far fewer tech support issues since I’ve done it too.

      Between system 76, framework, tuxedo, and a few other sellers. There are actually a few options now offering Linux out of the box. Next time I buy a PC it will likely be from one of them depending upon what I’m looking for. And if anyone asked me for recommendations they will be the only ones I will recommend. Apart from ordering used office machines and repurposing them LOL. Unless you want to do current gym Triple A games at 4K etc. You can get six generation i7 systems for around $100 and use graphic cards for 50 to 100. And play most games and have a great time. It’s actually kind of hilarious I have a couple of Verizon systems from the last 4 to 5 years. The system I spend more time on is a 6th generation i7 Lenovo business Tower. Largely because it’s running Linux and the others are running Windows.

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