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Well he started early with the violence so it wasn’t unexpected if you ask me.
I just realized that Anakin committed a mass murder in each prequel movie.
First one is the ship, third one is the childeren.
What did he do in the second one? Clone wars is a huge blank in my memory hahaYou are not alone in this, that movie is a total blank in my head.
Tusken Raiders
Sand people (I don’t recall their actual name)
Dude, “sand people” is not the preferred nomenclature. Tatooine-American, please.
Inb4 “the whole Outer Rim is AmErIcA” group.
We’re all living in Amerika. Coca-Cola. Always war.
Isn’t the original line “sometimes war”? Or am I misremembering the lyrics.
The Tusken villagers.
Was the ship a mass-murder? It was droid federation. How many Nemodians were actually abord?
Droids are people too
Apparently memory-wiping people is okay
Were there any living beings on that thing? I only remember there being droids
There were Nemoidians controlling it from the central orb. Probably not very many but at least a couple dozen if not more.
They don’t count.
I subscribe to the view that droids are people too. A consciousness is a consciousness.
Anakin also subscribes to that idea, given how well he treats R2D2 and C3PO
That’s droidist.
Not to worry, they’re still flying half a space station
His first time was shortly after he tried what those in the scene refer to as “spinning”. All that violence happened while he was still high on the rush from that very first spin of his. It seemed like a “good trick” at the time, but like with many other a vulnerable youth before him and after him, it was nothing but a “gateway trick”, that started him down a dark side-path in life, where he, hungry for more, would seek out dangerous knowledge on how to perform increasingly darker and darker “tricks”. But that path inevitably leads to oblivion, for anyone who takes it. He ended up destroying not only those he loved, as well as many innocents who happened to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time, along the way, until his addiction to these tricks would eventually claim its final victim - namely himself.
And that’s why you should always say “NO!” to spinning! It might seem tempting and harmless, when a friend offers you just a little spin, right? But that person is not your friend, and that spin is anything but harmless. So, take the Spin-Free Pledge with me and all of your friends today, and you will be able to take home your very own SpinNot™ diploma to hang on your wall. And when some hoodlum on the street offers you a spin, remember these words, which will surely make him reevaluate his own life decisions in quiet shame, as you loudly and proudly tell him:
Spinning - not even once!
Killing multiple people all at once is mass-murder, not genocide.
Even the younglings?
Even the younglings. Unless he kills all younglings everywhere, Pharaoh Ramses style.
Wiping out (or trying to) an ethnicity or culture is genocide. While he was not the sole perpetrator of the Jedi genocide, he was a major participant
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Well thats a very liberal application of genocide. The Sand people incident might be spun as a racial killing, but genocide? That’s way too much.
Yeah. What he did to the Sand People was a hate crime.
Yeah he hated they made him do it. /s
he only hated that he ran out of sand people
“Just” terrorism.
I’m going to see this comment in my history in a year and be like “…huh?”
So if someone said they intentionally murdered all of a tribe, you wouldn’t consider it genocide?
Sand people is more of a word like Native Americans.
So it would be like if he went and intentionally murdered all of the Cherokee because the actions of one/some Cherokee.
Sure he didn’t hunt down the Seminoles afterwards, but the Cherokee have their own culture and beliefs.
As for the Jedi… His orders were to kill everyone of a certain religion. He stated with the younglings and then spent over a decade hunting down anyone who escaped.
Bibi moment
Anakin murdered one village, he didn’t prosecute a war of extinction against an entire people.
So if someone goes and murders ever Parisian it is not a genocide of Parisians? Or are some people lesser and their cultures dont matter as much?
It would certainly be an atrocity, if that’s what you’re getting at. There is no less value to Palestinian or Native American lives than to European ones. Genocide, however, is the systematic persecution with the intent to eliminate a certain ethnic group.
The difficulty in your example arises with defining that “genus” in the modern sense of genocide, since “Parisian” is a very diverse mix of people. What makes them “Parisian”?
If their common association is, say, having their primary residence in Paris, or having been in Paris during a certain point or stretch in time, I suppose we could coin the term “urbicide”, but I don’t know if there’s a historical precedent for the systematic persecution of a specific city by whatever definition.
There is the historic phenomenon of soldiers wantonly slaughtering a chunk of the populace of a captured city, but if you wanted to actually use the administrative and productive value of that city you’d want to keep the killing in check. On the other hand, raiding other tribes or villages and killing inhabitants with the purpose of driving them away from your lands also involved the murder of civilians, but the intent was foremost to secure resources and prosperous land for your own people.
Failing any other classification, it would still be a massacre. We don’t need to slap particularly loaded labels onto everything bad to make it bad. Doing so dilutes the meaning of those terms, watering down both their political weight and their usefulness in classifying events.
Genocide:
the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
Cultural group means killing any village unless it has an identical twin with the same language, history, principles, beliefs, music, etc, means it will be genocide.
I don’t recall ani going there to wipe them out, only to get his mother. then the killings happened when she died in his arms. so how is this “… systemically…”
The system was a mix of his lightsaber and the force, moving 1 to the next…? Whether it was passion, right or wrong it doesn’t matter to the definition of the term.
A riot is a riot whether or not the riot was for a good reason. Terms be like that usually.
I always found it fascinating that Darth Vader created C3PO.
C-3PO was a parts kit. It wasn’t that Anakin designed his own brand new droid, he gathered enough parts from scrap yards to mash together his own based on schematics that would have been available to anyone who regularly works on droids. In our time it was about as impressive of a feat as building a bookshelf out of lumber you salvaged from a local dump pile. Impressive for a boy that age, but anyone with the time and tools could do it.
He also built a race car. And won a race with it.
Red neck rockets strapped to a chair that drift vs recycled multilingual protocol droid.
Going to have to know information to make a determination.
My fascination is with the derpy friendly nature of C3PO and him aiding in his own creators downbringing. The stark contrast between Vader and C3PO. One would not assume they were related. Im indifferent to Anakins tech skills.
I guess the implication is that given it’s a kit build, anyone else building to such schematics would get a droid with the same derpy friendly nature since that’s presumably what it’s designed to be like.
I love how when he kills the kids she’s like ‘no! He wouldn’t! He couldn’t!’ would really She should have been like ‘yeah he does that sometimes. Killed a bunch of sand people a few years back. I still sucked his dick.’
Chicks will do anything for Chad.
