Do you know any Lemmy instances not federated with other ones, living by themselves? Do you know any interesting or creative use case for a not federated instance?

  • bastionntb@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Dunno why it seems everyone is misunderstanding your post. It’s a simple question. Why all the grief? I’d be interested to know of Lemmy instances that arent federated and where to find them as well.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Yeah, waaaay back in the day there was a couple private message boards I was in for stuff like sports.

      Nowadays there’s a lot better options for organization, but via one of the big companies which requires accounts and things to happen on their server.

      A closed Lemmy server at a discreet address has a lot of advantages compared to a Discord group for example.

      I’d never thought of it, but it could be a thing.

  • AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    I didn’t think your question is as absurd as everyone is acting like it is. It’s absolutely a silly thing to do, but I think a lot of the arguments against doing so would also apply to Mastodon, and wasn’t it revealed that that Trump’s garbage dump was running defedded Masto?

    If you find one, I assume there will be many more terrible choices beyond just using Lemmy, and it’s not somewhere you’ll want to be.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Well now hang on. What if you were in 8th grade, and started your own Lemmy instance, with no outside sources, and then invite all your classmates? And then all 30 of you have a blog and you all post individual blog posts.

      Seems like a very specialized use of it, and I’m not sure if teens today would be interested in that…but you COULD.

    • Kichae@lemmy.ca
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      1 month ago

      Why is it a silly thing to do? A non-federating lemmy instance is just another content aggregator site like Reddit.

      In many ways, it’s a better experience than federated Lemmy. It’s just harder to recruit members.

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      I haven’t checked around since the reddit API fiasco, but there were unfederated Lemmy instances. As Diva mentions in more detail, Hexbear used to be unfederated and it was the largest of all instances. Even without federation, it’s a viable, actively developed content aggregator. So I wouldn’t call it silly, it’s a valid choice.

      and wasn’t it revealed that that Trump’s garbage dump was running defedded Masto?

      Gab is also a Mastodon fork, which was originally defederated before being blocked from most instances and bullied by the remaining freeze peach instances, so they mechanically removed the federation code.

      I’ve also heard some special interest communities on Mastodon intentionally defederate from the broader network for privacy reasons.

          • unknown1234_5@kbin.earth
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            1 month ago

            well I’d say since non-federated Lemmy is just a forum with a bunch of stuff for federation that you won’t use, there’s no point. if you want a forum, then Lemmy is the wrong answer. Lemmy is (or at least is designed to be) an open-source, federated copy of reddit, keeping the good parts while removing the corpo stuff and adding the benefits that open-source and federation bring. with only one instance, it’s little more than a mediocre forum.

            • comfy@lemmy.ml
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              1 month ago

              well I’d say since non-federated Lemmy is just a forum with a bunch of stuff for federation that you won’t use

              It’s not the same as every other forum software, or even every other content aggregator.

              with only one instance, it’s little more than a mediocre forum.

              What would make it mediocre or not is the community, and pre-federation Hexbear, or even reddit itself, is proof that you don’t need federation to have an active community, it simply makes it far easier.

            • Kichae@lemmy.ca
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              1 month ago

              Lemmy is not a forum, though, any more than Mastodon is. It’s a totally different, if relates, form factor and provises a radically different user experience.

          • breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            It makes no sense. lemmy is a forum + federation. Removing the federated side, why bother with using lemmy or similar software? its like wanting a car to use to solely generate heat with the exhaust. Theres far better options for that

            • comfy@lemmy.ml
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              1 month ago

              Federation doesn’t make the rest of the software worse.

              It’s not like wanting a car to solely generate heat with the exhaust, it’s closer to using a four-wheel-drive car on regular city streets.

        • nocturne@sopuli.xyz
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          1 month ago

          No. Mastadon is a microblog/twitter platform. While lemmy is a link aggregator/reddit.

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              1 month ago

              No clue, i had to tap out while looking at it. That was a hot mess, and i feel dumber for having read anything there.

              • can@sh.itjust.works
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                1 month ago

                I’m not sure I get it either. Is it just a url to a specific Scored community or somehow its own instance?

                It doesn’t mention activity pub or federation. I think it’s just another reddit clone. SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world (does that ping work?)

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                  1 month ago

                  It appeared to be a Reddit type site, but without communities. Just all of the drivel in one feed with only upvotes.

            • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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              1 month ago

              doesn’t look like either mastodon or lemmy, although its structure is similar to lemmy; from the sidebar it appears they are running something called “scored” which I don’t know anything about

        • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
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          28 days ago

          No, they can sort of interact with each other, but the data structure and the functions of the sites are different. Mastodon is Microblogging like Twitter, and Lemmy is a Link-aggregator/Forum type platform.